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Postby Myrensis » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:05 pm

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For prison? Sure.

I'm really curious if the assumption that the base is not that into her will hold and she'll fall flat on her face, or if they'll obey her dad's wishes if he gets behind her and actually power a decent run. I expect the former, since the latter is just too awful to think about, but I suppose it could happen, since I've been wrong about a Trump's popular appeal in a primary before.

I think he's going to try himself in 2024, though, if he's alive, not in prison, and not prevented from running by an impeachment conviction (or possibly even if he is), which means she's going to be on the back burner for a few more years. Most theories about her possibly wanting to mount a run are focused on the idea of her primarying Rubio, which strikes me as surprisingly plausible given her father's hold on the base and enmity with Rubio. You can't just go straight to the presidency, after all-- a partial Senate term seems to be the minimum qualification needed since Obama.


Yeah... I really don't see Trump tolerating taking the back seat to one of his kids.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:06 pm


He says on Fox News.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:06 pm



Do they forget he has a press room in his house?

I mean he's moving out now, but he can walk out the door and there are cameras always there for him to talk to.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:07 pm

Nakena wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
For prison? Sure.


But why would you put her in prison?

Besides, she has zero talent.


Trump's children (except Barron, obviously) are by and large party to his infinite number of crimes. They should all go down as a result.

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No, I think the failure of several consecutive administrations up to the present day to formally assimilate a former slave caste into an ever-growing urban, industrial society has left said former slaves and their descendant trapped in a permanent limbo of lower class culture leaving them outside the purview of traditional American society and preventing them from becoming fully American and that more should be done to correct this.

What I don't believe is that reparations are the answer.

Maybe not the answer on their own, but why not a part of the answer? If someone's biggest problem is that they don't have enough money, why not give them money?


UBI, I think, would solve most if not all of those issues so the point of reparations is rather moot. Even better that it helps everyone and not just certain racial, ethnic, or religious groups who've faced discrimination in the past.
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Postby Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:08 pm

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Do they forget he has a press room in his house?

I mean he's moving out now, but he can walk out the door and there are cameras always there for him to talk to.


Quiet! You'll ruin the whole "leftists oppressing us with unspeakable social media corporate horror!" thing.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:12 pm

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Pitchforks! Get your pitchforks here! $4.50 per fork!


Do you accept pound sterling?


Since Brexit? No fucking way dude.
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Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:15 pm

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Do you accept pound sterling?


Since Brexit? No fucking way dude.

Hey, at least the UK isn't in the Eurozone. Or... wasn't?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:18 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... bt19cloi_o

Democrats nationwide are examining Georgia as a model for success elsewhere especially in the south.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:19 pm

We're continuing to see haemorrhaging of Trump's support.. link

A1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president?

Approve - 34%
Disapprove - 62%
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Postby Andsed » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:19 pm


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/534504-democrats-see-georgia-as-model-for-success-across-south?fbclid=IwAR0FJnhtcZjLGtqIQz6lBI-rFosg8jD_iW32RR4qyFeZrpGttbt19cloi_o

Democrats nationwide are examining Georgia as a model for success elsewhere especially in the south.

The definitely need to.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:21 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/534504-democrats-see-georgia-as-model-for-success-across-south?fbclid=IwAR0FJnhtcZjLGtqIQz6lBI-rFosg8jD_iW32RR4qyFeZrpGttbt19cloi_o

Democrats nationwide are examining Georgia as a model for success elsewhere especially in the south.

The definitely need to.


can't rely on the Republican candidate alienating the suburbs every time.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:21 pm

Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:21 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/534504-democrats-see-georgia-as-model-for-success-across-south?fbclid=IwAR0FJnhtcZjLGtqIQz6lBI-rFosg8jD_iW32RR4qyFeZrpGttbt19cloi_o

Democrats nationwide are examining Georgia as a model for success elsewhere especially in the south.

The definitely need to.


I'm not so sure how much can be usefully learned from these elections given they were so predominately about one person.
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Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.

I'd take it, but I'm not a fan of hamburgers.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:23 pm

Atheris wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.

I'd take it, but I'm not a fan of hamburgers.

I wouldn’t judge all hamburgers based off of the Big Mac.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:23 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The definitely need to.


can't rely on the Republican candidate alienating the suburbs every time.

Who said they where?
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Postby Atheris » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:23 pm

Adamede wrote:
Atheris wrote:I'd take it, but I'm not a fan of hamburgers.

I wouldn’t judge all hamburgers based off of the Big Mac.

All Big Macs are hamburgers, not all hamburgers are Big Macs, I know. I just don't like burgers in general.
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Postby Stylan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:23 pm

Vassenor wrote:Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.

While I'm all for raising the minimum wage, this isn't really a great argument.
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Postby Microtekia » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:24 pm

Atheris wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.

I'd take it, but I'm not a fan of hamburgers.


I would gladly pay that difference to make sure the workers can actually live a fucking human life. I am also American so I get to way in on this and bitch lol.
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:25 pm

Someone should set up a betting pool concerning whom Trump will pardon before leaving office.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:28 pm

Gravlen wrote:Someone should set up a betting pool concerning whom Trump will pardon before leaving office.


As I understand it if he can't pardon himself he's pardoning no one. He's off to Mar A Lago tomorrow to stew in his own pool of petulance.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:37 pm

Stylan wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Big Mac in USA: $4.80
Big Mac in Denmark: $5.15

McDonalds worker salary in USA: $7.25
McDonalds worker salary in Denmark: $22


Food for thought on the minimum wage issue.

While I'm all for raising the minimum wage, this isn't really a great argument.


It's more of a worked example for all the "$15 minimum wage will cause massive price hikes" crowd to chew on.
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