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Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:43 am**

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Atheris wrote:Don't curse the darkness. Light a candle! When freaky politics give you lemons, make freaky politics lemonade!

Like this! *thrusts the monarchy back into Italy*

The only place monarchy belongs is a garbage bag.

Exactly the reason the Italian government is the perfect place for it, of course

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:44 am**

Berlusconi's back, baby! Get ready to bunga bunga!

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:44 am**

Omniabstracta wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The only place monarchy belongs is a garbage bag.

Exactly the reason the Italian government is the perfect place for it, of course.

Wow bro, you're really out here committing war crimes like this?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:46 am**

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Atheris wrote:Don't curse the darkness. Light a candle! When freaky politics give you lemons, make freaky politics lemonade!

Like this! *thrusts the monarchy back into Italy*

The only place monarchy belongs is a garbage bag.

Your government has an approval rating of under 20%, I don't think you have much room to talk.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:47 am**

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Omniabstracta wrote:Exactly the reason the Italian government is the perfect place for it, of course.

Wow bro, you're really out here committing war crimes like this?

...?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:47 am**

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Omniabstracta wrote:Exactly the reason the Italian government is the perfect place for it, of course.

Wow bro, you're really out here committing war crimes like this?

Uhh, no? Did I need a /s there?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:47 am**

Trollzyn was making a joke.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:50 am**

Punished UMN wrote:Trollzyn was making a joke.

I don't get it...

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:50 am**

Punished UMN wrote:Trollzyn was making a joke.

Damn, looks like I’ve been outsarcasmed.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:50 am**

Punished UMN wrote:Trollzyn was making a joke.

Seriously I wasn't even being subtle about it...

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:50 am**

Nakena wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Seems like a good opportunity for the populist right to get into power

I don't know if they are covid denialist in Italy like in other european countries.

covid denialism is such a bizarre phenomenon that it warrants its own political science studies once the whole thing settles down. In the US, we have Trump and the religious right, in Brazil, it’s Bolsonaro’s far right band, in Mexico, it’s AMLO’s left wing populist faction, in India, it’s Modi’s opposition claiming he invented the coronavirus, in Nepal, its ruling communist party claims that masks are a "tool," and in Indonesia, all of the parties collectively withheld acknowledging the spread of the virus

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:52 am**

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I don't know if they are covid denialist in Italy like in other european countries.

covid denialism is such a bizarre phenomenon that it warrants its own political science studies once the whole thing settles down. In the US, we have Trump and the religious right, in Brazil, it’s Bolsonaro’s far right band, in Mexico, it’s AMLO’s left wing populist faction, in India, it’s Modi’s opposition claiming he invented the coronavirus, in Nepal, its ruling communist party claims that masks are a "tool," and in Indonesia, all of the parties collectively withheld acknowledging the spread of the virus

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Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:56 am**

That's over 60 times now. Can't remember the exact amount but I supposed it's to be expected every few years or so

Atheris wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:covid denialism is such a bizarre phenomenon that it warrants its own political science studies once the whole thing settles down. In the US, we have Trump and the religious right, in Brazil, it’s Bolsonaro’s far right band, in Mexico, it’s AMLO’s left wing populist faction, in India, it’s Modi’s opposition claiming he invented the coronavirus, in Nepal, its ruling communist party claims that masks are a "tool," and in Indonesia, all of the parties collectively withheld acknowledging the spread of the virus

W H A T
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Sure must have a lot of spare time on his hands :lol:

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:24 pm**

Nakena wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Seems like a good opportunity for the populist right to get into power

I don't know if they are covid denialist in Italy like in other european countries.

There are.

And, curiously enough, they belong almost entirely to
-the right-wing part of M5S
-Lega Nord
-Fratelli d'Italia

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:34 pm**

Has anybody told Renzi that he's not as intelligent as he thinks he is? He keeps staking his power on these dramatic do or die moments and then the dice say "die".

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:25 pm**

Chan Island wrote:Has anybody told Renzi that he's not as intelligent as he thinks he is? He keeps staking his power on these dramatic do or die moments and then the dice say "die".

How is he even still in office ?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:33 pm**

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Has anybody told Renzi that he's not as intelligent as he thinks he is? He keeps staking his power on these dramatic do or die moments and then the dice say "die".

How is he even still in office ?

I was wondering this too, it feels like only a few years ago he gambled wrong and lost the premiership? (Am I making that up?) Having not followed Italian politics especially closely since then, how the hell did he pull off this comeback?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:38 pm**

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I don't know if they are covid denialist in Italy like in other european countries.

covid denialism is such a bizarre phenomenon that it warrants its own political science studies once the whole thing settles down. In the US, we have Trump and the religious right, in Brazil, it’s Bolsonaro’s far right band, In Mexico, it’s AMLO’s left wing populist faction, in India, it’s Modi’s opposition claiming he invented the coronavirus, in Nepal, its ruling communist party claims that masks are a "tool," and in Indonesia, all of the parties collectively withheld acknowledging the spread of the virus

What the fuck?

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:47 pm**

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Italian governments always collapse. Italy is known for being a country where things just don't work because there's too much chaos and disorganization mixed with corruption.

My hypothesis is after the Roman Empire fell, the blow to Italian pride was so demoralizing that the people of the peninsula stopped giving a shit and they haven't given a shit since, which is why covid aid took forever to reach the south, why Mussolini couldn't fight the war against Greece alone and why every Italian government collapses inevitably into infighting.

Well, they had a pretty good run during the Renaissance. Still corrupt and chaotic, but cultured as fuck.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:19 pm**

Senkaku wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
How is he even still in office ?

I was wondering this too, it feels like only a few years ago he gambled wrong and lost the premiership? (Am I making that up?) Having not followed Italian politics especially closely since then, how the hell did he pull off this comeback?

Well, he was still a Deputy, and he basically just collected some of his followers together and broke off from the PD to form Italia Viva.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:20 pm**

Myrensis wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Italian governments always collapse. Italy is known for being a country where things just don't work because there's too much chaos and disorganization mixed with corruption.

My hypothesis is after the Roman Empire fell, the blow to Italian pride was so demoralizing that the people of the peninsula stopped giving a shit and they haven't given a shit since, which is why covid aid took forever to reach the south, why Mussolini couldn't fight the war against Greece alone and why every Italian government collapses inevitably into infighting.

Well, they had a pretty good run during the Renaissance. Still corrupt and chaotic, but cultured as fuck.

There was still no single country called Italy at that time, though.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:28 pm**

Punished UMN wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The only place monarchy belongs is a garbage bag.

Your government has an approval rating of under 20%, I don't think you have much room to talk.

Time to make it even worse

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:47 pm**

An old joke I recall from the National Lampoon: The Red Brigade shoots Italian policians so that the government will fall, which is like shooting light bulbs so the sun will go down.

Posted: **Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:58 pm**

Punished UMN wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The only place monarchy belongs is a garbage bag.

Your government has an approval rating of under 20%, I don't think you have much room to talk.

And monarchies where over thrown all over Europe. I think that says something about their popularity as well.

Posted: **Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:42 am**

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Has anybody told Renzi that he's not as intelligent as he thinks he is? He keeps staking his power on these dramatic do or die moments and then the dice say "die".

How is he even still in office ?

He was secretary of PD when the candidates for the 2018 elections were decided. So he got to appoint the PD candidates.
He took for himself the Senate seat for his own hometown Rignano, and placed his most trusted people in "safe" seats. Then he took them with himself when he left the PD to form Italia Viva.

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