Is chivalry good

[Insaanistan]

Magical sky friend says men and women are equal and discrimination based on race, religion or ethnicity is wrong, so maybe we should actually listen to him.

God encouraged genocide, servitude and public execution for rape victims and homosexuals. True egalitarianism.

Let’s see.
Genocide:
“Whoever takes an innocent life, it is as if he has killed all of mankind.”
Servitude:
A man hit a slave, but freed him, and Muhammad (pbuh) told him had he not freed the slave, the man would have been destined for hell.
Muhammad (pbuh) personally bought slaves just to immediately free them, and when he didn’t have money to do so, he’d ask his followers to do it.
Qur’ân says of enemies captured in battle “ either release them or ransom [them before release information them]” (prisoners of war were the main way slaves were captured).
Muhammad (pbuh) told his followers that they were obligated to feed the prisoners what they ate and let them drink what they drink in equal mouthfuls, and refused to allow them to be shackled or chained.
All Muslims who owned slaves were Islamically required to free them under the contract of mukataba. When Muhammad (pbuh) arrived in Madina, the leader of Madina (who was pretending to be Muslim) told his nearby slave

Run and hide [before Muhammad sees you]. [If he does], I may be required to free you to show my devotion.

Muslims are also encouraged to marry female slaves rather than keep them as slaves.
All of this is basically saying “Slavery bad.”

Rape:
... why do I even have to explain this one? Rape is forbidden in Islam as Zina al-Zibr and is considered a very serious crime.

Homosexual Execution:
Not allowed to execute homosexuals. While homosexual relationships/intercourse (not being a homosexual, there’s no crime for that) are impermissible in Islam, Muslims aren’t actually allowed to punish anyone for it. Even in my NS nation, homosexuality is a crime with a punishment of literally nothing. The Islamic view is that God will decide what to do with homosexual people who engage in homosexual intercourse.

You impressively demonstrated a complete lack of comprehension of Islam in one sentence.

[Insaanistan]

Idk why everyone is talking about chivalry in Islam. I mean I think women would rather live in a world without chivalry or Islamic law governing their entire life instead of a world where chivalry exists but so does Islamic law.

Imagine having the door held for you at places, but you also gotta wear a hijab and your testimony in court is only worth half that of a man, oh and if you divorce your husband he takes the kids by default.

Hijab is debated, two women are asked to be there only because woman who witnessed it may go through pregnancy/birth in between the event and court date and might need someone to help remind her of details (many scholars hold if that hasn’t occurred than only one woman testifying is fine) and considering men have to pay child support to the woman in the event of divorce under Islamic law, I’m pretty sure the man isn’t the one getting the kids by default.

[Insaanistan]

Magical sky friend says men and women are equal and discrimination based on race, religion or ethnicity is wrong, so maybe we should actually listen to him.

True but brother he also says to protect women.

And he also says women are the twins halves of men. Men protect women, and women protect men. Look at Khadijah (May Allah be pleased with her). Or Fatimah May Allah be pleased with her) teaching the masses. Or Āisha (May Allah be pleased with her) leading a freaking Army.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

True but brother he also says to protect women.

And he also says women are the twins halves of men. Men protect women, and women protect men. Look at Khadijah (May Allah be pleased with her). Or Fatimah May Allah be pleased with her) teaching the masses. Or Āisha (May Allah be pleased with her) leading a freaking Army.

True but this involves treating men and women differently. In Islam gender equality means men and women are of equal worth. Women can be merchants (Khadijah RA), educators (Fatimah RA and Aisha RA) or soldiers (Aisha RA) but a husband is expected to provide for their wife or wives, women have no obligation to provide for their husband. Men are expected to show gheerah (protectiveness towards the honour of their wife or sister etcetera including a form of jealousy). A man with no gheerah is a daiyooth, what in the west is known as a cuck.

[Adamede]

Idk but plate armor is lit.

Let me introduce you to my wheellocks.

[Suriyanakhon]

Idk but plate armor is lit.

Imagine not journeying for years in plate armor to find a magic cup.

[Stellar Colonies]

If you have a giver and a receiver, and the giver is engaging in positive sexism against the receiver with the act of giving, then there is an extremely thin line between said positive sexism and negative sexism against the giver, since it very well could lead to a demand placed on the giver by the receiver as an involuntary obligation.

[Clan Fainedubh]

Idk but plate armor is lit.

Let me introduce you to my wheellocks.

You're not wrong, but the reality is way more complex than that. TG me for a history lesson on plate armor and early firearms. I'd love to go in depth on it, with at least one, if not more than one huge paragraph, but that's would be very, very off topic.

If you have a giver and a receiver, and the giver is engaging in positive sexism against the receiver with the act of giving, then there is an extremely thin line between said positive sexism and negative sexism against the giver, since it very well could lead to a demand placed on the giver by the receiver as an involuntary obligation.

That's what I was saying earlier. And from there, abuse is born. (Not all abuse comes from this source, but the vast majority does.) That's why such a thing cannot, and should not be condoned. It creates a mindset of entitlement, which is the ruling thought process behind Incel-ism, and more frighteningly, honestly a lot of far right and alt-right ideologies. (As well as a number of right-wing ideologies that aren't quite so far.) The idea that one person deserves something at the expense of others, to be elevated above others, with complete disregard for said others... that's the heart of entitlement. "Chivalry" and a lot of other, similar beliefs, all stem back from and feed back into that sense of entitlement, that sense that one group of people is better than another. "Chivalry" attempted to make it more "benevolent", essentially white-washing it to make it look nicer, more palatable - "We should help women because they can't take care of themselves" - recall that this came out at a time when women were thought to have similar mental capacity to children and it all becomes far more disturbing.