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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
35
26%
No
87
64%
Neutral
9
7%
Other (please explain)
5
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Total votes : 136

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:49 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
I mean getting rid of the entirety of China and not just the CCP government. Do the people have to go too?


Nope. I didn’t lie when I said “abolish China and save lives”. Please go to the China thread to understand what abolitionism is.


How about you just tell me what it is right here.
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How the hell did this happen?
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:55 am

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:12 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nope. I didn’t lie when I said “abolish China and save lives”. Please go to the China thread to understand what abolitionism is.


How about you just tell me what it is right here.


Get rid of the centralized Chinese state based on the brutal Qin dynasty and establish Sangleyia, one or several Israel-like mercantile states. The four clauses in the sentence “Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.” are related. Feline individualism and creativity are contrasted with canine collectivism and obedience. The former corresponds to the nature of Israel while the latter corresponds to the nature of China, the anti-Israel ethnic Chinese run away from.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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Abolish China and save lives.
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Postby Dollystana » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:15 am

Absolutely. Like it's right there in my flag.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:15 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
How about you just tell me what it is right here.


Get rid of the centralized Chinese state based on the brutal Qin dynasty and establish Sangleyia, one or several Israel-like mercantile states.


Mercantile state?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:17 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Get rid of the centralized Chinese state based on the brutal Qin dynasty and establish Sangleyia, one or several Israel-like mercantile states.


Mercantile state?

Yup. A state that encourages and protects domestic and international commerce, which is what ethnic Chinese actually like to do but the cultural orthodoxy of both old (Confucian-Legalist) and new (Communist) China hates. This is why the paradoxical entity of China which makes as much sense as a dictatorship that indoctrinates cats in the virtue of veganism and the sin of being carnivores needs to be abolished.
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Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:26 am

This is not the China abolition thread so I will stop here.

Ailurocracy is effective in preventing dictatorship.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:36 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:This is not the China abolition thread so I will stop here.

Ailurocracy is effective in preventing dictatorship.


Yeah, only because the cats are stupid.

No offence to cats. They're very nice, but defiantly not cut out for any sort of administrative tasks.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:41 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:This is not the China abolition thread so I will stop here.

Ailurocracy is effective in preventing dictatorship.


Yeah, only because the cats are stupid.

No offence to cats. They're very nice, but defiantly not cut out for any sort of administrative tasks.


This is precisely why ailurocracy is beneficial.
Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:47 am

so then, whats the next ridiculous idea youre gonna come up with?
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:21 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Yeah, only because the cats are stupid.

No offence to cats. They're very nice, but defiantly not cut out for any sort of administrative tasks.


This is precisely why ailurocracy is beneficial.


But then who actually runs the government?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:35 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
This is precisely why ailurocracy is beneficial.


But then who actually runs the government?


The human PM and their cabinet. The Minister of Interior is feline in order to abolish this position though.
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Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Lamenia
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Postby Lamenia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:58 am

I don't get it. This is absurd and would never fly. Just get rid of the office.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:01 pm

Page wrote:I'm already a cat's bitch. Make one President for all I care, my life will be no different. "Hey, I licked up all the jelly from the food you put out 5 minutes ago, I need new food now!" "Yes, Mr. President." "If I don't get belly rubs I am going to nuke a random country, might be Iran, might be Norway, do you want to roll those dice?"


Your cat and my cat sound as if they're members of the same political party.

Does your cat also ascribe to the 'I have re-entered the [White] house, and will now make my presence felt by howling loudly' part of the party's platform?
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...what?

I think I'll need a drink to process this... the hell?

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Postby Kargintinia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:09 pm

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:12 pm

Why does this thread even exist? Cats don't have the mental capacity to run an entire country, including foreign relations and the military.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:13 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Why does this thread even exist? Cats don't have the mental capacity to run an entire country, including foreign relations and the military.


I thought he was joking.
Apparently not.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:13 pm

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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:14 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:For example the head of state should always be feline to reduce possibility of cult of personality.

Say hi to Grumpy Cat for me.

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:P.S. The essence of ailurocracy is of course not about cats. Instead it is about a stronger form of abolition of certain offices by nominally keeping them but preventing them from functioning. Hence for example a permanent non-human head of state is equivalent to the abolition of the office of head of state.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:P.S.S. I’m inspired by the Taiwanese Cat Party: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3667329

Are there any records of this party actually standing in any elections? I can't find any on Adam Carr's Psephos website.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:16 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Why does this thread even exist? Cats don't have the mental capacity to run an entire country, including foreign relations and the military.

Have you been paying attention to Washington DC the past couple of days? We would be far better off with miss puss-puss in charge.
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