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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
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No
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Neutral
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Other (please explain)
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Postby Czechostan » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:19 pm

It would definitely be the chillest form of government... abundant scratching posts, compulsory 20-hour naps, all the catnip you can sniff... can't be any worse than what we have right now.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:36 pm

Czechostan wrote:It would definitely be the chillest form of government... abundant scratching posts, compulsory 20-hour naps, all the catnip you can sniff... can't be any worse than what we have right now.


Exactly. A lot less deadly and costs a lot less as well. Feline presidents don’t do anything other than consuming cat food and other cat supplies. On the other hand human dictators such as Xi and Putin murder and plunder.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:37 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Czechostan wrote:It would definitely be the chillest form of government... abundant scratching posts, compulsory 20-hour naps, all the catnip you can sniff... can't be any worse than what we have right now.


Exactly. A lot less deadly as well.

Cats exterminate vermin, just sayin
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Exactly. A lot less deadly as well.

Cats exterminate vermin, just sayin

Sure. You know what I’m saying though.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:39 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:This thread is complete farce and I utterly refuse to see it as anything more than an elaborate satire.

Nekostan is a hardcore troll.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:17 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:This thread is complete farce and I utterly refuse to see it as anything more than an elaborate satire.

Nekostan is a hardcore troll.
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I’m not a troll. Instead I’m very serious. Ailurocracy is essentially placebo of governance. Lots of human governance can not beat placebo.


Look. I admire your dedication to the act. You’ve fooled everyone else.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:36 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
I’m not a troll. Instead I’m very serious. Ailurocracy is essentially placebo of governance. Lots of human governance can not beat placebo.


Look. I admire your dedication to the act. You’ve fooled everyone else.

Lesa "fooled", and more 'humouring it'.

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:41 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
I’m not a troll. Instead I’m very serious. Ailurocracy is essentially placebo of governance. Lots of human governance can not beat placebo.


Look. I admire your dedication to the act. You’ve fooled everyone else.


Nope. I’m serious about ailurocracy.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:56 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Look. I admire your dedication to the act. You’ve fooled everyone else.


Nope. I’m serious about ailurocracy.


You can't fool me. I've seen acts of trolling like this before.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:57 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nope. I’m serious about ailurocracy.


You can't fool me. I've seen acts of trolling like this before.


Man, that’s not an argument. You aren’t very high on the hierarchy of disagreement.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:55 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Exactly. A lot less deadly as well.

Cats exterminate vermin, just sayin


Then why we do still have vermin?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:41 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Cats exterminate vermin, just sayin


Then why we do still have vermin?


First of all it is because biology doesn’t work like that. Actual extinction of vermin is very dangerous to the ecology. We want to keep vermin out of human areas but do not need to and should not exterminate them.

Secondly the amount of cats in households is neither sufficient nor adequately distributed to accomplish the freeing of human areas from vermin. There are many people who keep cats. However there are even more people who don’t. These areas that aren’t adequately policed by cats obviously can not enjoy the benefits of feline patrols.

Last but not least, many domestic cats have reduced capabilities of hunting which is in fact encouraged by pet keepers since cats who hunt are more likely to catch diseases and get injured than those who don’t.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:54 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Cats exterminate vermin, just sayin


Then why we do still have vermin?


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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:01 am

In case some people still think this is a joke thread...

There are several main benefits of partial ailurocracy:

1. Ailurocracy can prevent dictatorship. Ailurocracy can ensure that the position of head of state as well as other positions that are prone to capture by dictatorship and should not exist such as Minister of the Interior can never be human, thus finalizing their abolition.

2. Ailurocracy can eliminate cults of personality. Feline constitutional monarchs or presidents will be targets of gossip and centers of attention while human prime ministers with real power have to keep a low profile. Feline constitutional monarchies work the best here since then all human leaders must always use humble address before the feline monarch as opposed to claiming honor for themselves. The military and the police will also have to keep affirming its loyalty to the feline monarch and the people and never lord over them. All leader pics on currencies and other national symbols will be replaced by cat pics and locations named after human rulers need to be renamed after cats.

3. Ailurocracy is cheap. A feline head of state costs a lot lower than a human president or monarch, including pure ceremonial ones. This will save a lot of money for tax payers. Moreover feline politicians are a lot less corrupt than human ones which again saves money for tax payers.

4. Completely insane policies are unlikely. Humans have crazy ideologies such as communism and Nazism. Cats on the other hand will never support things as crazy as concentration camps. We can reserve the power of declaring martial law, forced population removal, opening and incarcerating people in detention camps, appropriation of property etc in the paws of the feline head of state and require it to only be sanctioned when the head of state gives a speech before the Parliament explaining the purpose of such policies which will prevent it from ever happening.
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Postby Barlyy » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:09 am

Um... no??

I mean, unless you implement some kind of AI into those cats. But even thay will be flawed, because that AI can be hacked.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:11 am

Barlyy wrote:Um... no??

I mean, unless you implement some kind of AI into those cats. But even thay will be flawed, because that AI can be hacked.


Nope. The point is precisely cheaply filling positions such as head of state and forcing them to be ceremonial. A human constitutional monarch or ceremonial president is way too expensive than and generally does not look as great as a feline one.

For example is whatever corrupt ruler in power a better representative of Ukraine, its people and culture than this cat? https://amp.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/ ... ukrainian/ Of course not.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:33 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Barlyy wrote:Um... no??

I mean, unless you implement some kind of AI into those cats. But even thay will be flawed, because that AI can be hacked.


Nope. The point is precisely cheaply filling positions such as head of state and forcing them to be ceremonial. A human constitutional monarch or ceremonial president is way too expensive than and generally does not look as great as a feline one.

For example is whatever corrupt ruler in power a better representative of Ukraine, its people and culture than this cat? https://amp.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/ ... ukrainian/ Of course not.


Alternative idea.
Don't have those positions.
Problem solved.
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How the hell did this happen?
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Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:48 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nope. The point is precisely cheaply filling positions such as head of state and forcing them to be ceremonial. A human constitutional monarch or ceremonial president is way too expensive than and generally does not look as great as a feline one.

For example is whatever corrupt ruler in power a better representative of Ukraine, its people and culture than this cat? https://amp.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/ ... ukrainian/ Of course not.


Alternative idea.
Don't have those positions.
Problem solved.


Then there is nothing that prevents these positions from reappearing. Ailurocracy on the other hand blocks these positions from ever being usable again.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:53 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Alternative idea.
Don't have those positions.
Problem solved.


Then there is nothing that prevents these positions from reappearing. Ailurocracy on the other hand blocks these positions from ever being usable again.


And what's stopping someone from kicking the cats out? The cats can't fight back effectively.
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How the hell did this happen?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:26 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Then there is nothing that prevents these positions from reappearing. Ailurocracy on the other hand blocks these positions from ever being usable again.


And what's stopping someone from kicking the cats out? The cats can't fight back effectively.


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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:03 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Then there is nothing that prevents these positions from reappearing. Ailurocracy on the other hand blocks these positions from ever being usable again.


And what's stopping someone from kicking the cats out? The cats can't fight back effectively.


When the cats are national symbols harming them should be high treason. The people will rise up and kick the coup leaders out.
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Postby Jakker » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:31 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:This thread is complete farce and I utterly refuse to see it as anything more than an elaborate satire.

Nekostan is a hardcore troll.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:40 pm

As someone who loves my cat dearly, nah. While cats are definitely a better choice than some of the world's leaders, simply by the fact that they won't fuck over the people if they sleep for 18 hours a day, even if they're purely ceremonial, they're one incident of stealing their guest's food at a state banquet away at being removed from power.

Source: my cat tries to steal a ton of human food, including popcorn, Brussel sprouts, and even Werther's Original. Kinda paranoid about eating chocolate cake around the cat because I fear my cat will get sick if he even has a few crumbs.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:57 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:For example the head of state should always be feline to reduce possibility of cult of personality.

You are not familiar with the Internet, are you?

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:59 pm

Esternial wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:For example the head of state should always be feline to reduce possibility of cult of personality.

You are not familiar with the Internet, are you?


I’m familiar with the internet. The craze for cat pictures is a feature not a bug since cats don’t actually hold power and hence can not abuse it.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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Abolish China and save lives.
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