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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
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26%
No
87
64%
Neutral
9
7%
Other (please explain)
5
4%
 
Total votes : 136
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The New California Republic
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Posts: 35483
Founded: Jun 06, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:53 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What a silly idea.


You need to refute it if you think so.

Some ideas are just so plain silly that there really isn't any need to.
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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:57 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What a silly idea.


You need to refute it if you think so.


The burden of truth falls upon the person making such claims. You can't just shout out something crazy like "all accountants should be dogs" and demand people to refute it.
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The New California Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:58 am

Rusozak wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
You need to refute it if you think so.


The burden of truth falls upon the person making such claims. You can't just shout out something crazy like "all accountants should be dogs" and demand people to refute it.

That too.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.
White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Istoreya
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Founded: Dec 13, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Istoreya » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:21 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What a silly idea.


You need to refute it if you think so.

Why? What's the point in repeating what everyone else in the thread has already said? It gets boring after the first three pages.
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The Marlborough
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Marlborough » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm

Nekostan I know you dislike "parentism" and whatnot and so I have a serious question to ask: Are you staging a hunger strike towards your parents?
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Founded: Dec 01, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:30 pm

The Marlborough wrote:Nekostan I know you dislike "parentism" and whatnot and so I have a serious question to ask: Are you staging a hunger strike towards your parents?


Nope since I don’t live with them lol.
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:56 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
You need to refute it if you think so.


The burden of truth falls upon the person making such claims. You can't just shout out something crazy like "all accountants should be dogs" and demand people to refute it.


I agree. I have already explained the utility of ailurocracy.
Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire
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The New California Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:I have already explained the utility of ailurocracy.

Not cogently.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.
White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:46 am

The OP was too curious.

And is now an ex nation.
The Blaatschapen should resign
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Ethel mermania
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Founded: Aug 20, 2010
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:47 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:The OP was too curious.

And is now an ex nation.

Soon to be.
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The New California Republic
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Founded: Jun 06, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:48 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:The OP was too curious.

And is now an ex nation.

...wait, what? Oh, so they are. What the hell lol.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.
White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Estado Novo Portugues
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Estado Novo Portugues » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:49 am

Had this been asked at any other time, my answer would've been an immediate no. But now, having a fluffy feline overlord honestly seems like the better option, compared to the current crop of human politicians. Because politics today just seems like one big global race to the bottom.
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Istoreya
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Founded: Dec 13, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:00 am

What... happened? Neko just died lol
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Polska Rzeczpospolita Robotnicza
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Founded: Aug 26, 2020
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Postby Polska Rzeczpospolita Robotnicza » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:02 am

Jakker wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:This thread is complete farce and I utterly refuse to see it as anything more than an elaborate satire.

Nekostan is a hardcore troll.
Good night Irene!


*** Warned for Flaming/Troll Naming ***

They hated him because he said the truth.

Nekostan actually turned out to be a troll.
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My Political Fantasy
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Founded: Jan 10, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby My Political Fantasy » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:03 am

Istoreya wrote:What... happened? Neko just died lol


Apparently Neko was so much of a weeb that he defend the actions of the Japanese army in ww2.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:03 am

Istoreya wrote:What... happened? Neko just died lol

And I imagine that this thread is going to die too, since I imagine that there will be nobody who will unironically advocate what this thread is calling for.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.
White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Istoreya wrote:What... happened? Neko just died lol

And I imagine that this thread is going to die too, since I imagine that there will be nobody who will unironically advocate what this thread is calling for.

It already was dead until somebody let the necromancer in.
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Polska Rzeczpospolita Robotnicza
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Postby Polska Rzeczpospolita Robotnicza » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:05 am

My Political Fantasy wrote:
Istoreya wrote:What... happened? Neko just died lol


Apparently Neko was so much of a weeb that he defend the actions of the Japanese army in ww2.

Basically, Picairn broke him and then he admitted he was a troll that had an account called Katzenstaat a few years ago and just wanted to annoy NS and by extension the mods.

So yeah. New Yugoslavia was vindicated after all.
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Picairn
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Founded: Feb 21, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Picairn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 am

Istoreya wrote:What... happened? Neko just died lol

I was there when it happened. Basically I and other debaters in the Japan GEACPS thread were cornering him for supporting fascist policies and defending genocidal empires when he suddenly broke and went out to spam NSG and admitted he was once DEATed in the past for spamming "Meow" repeatedly in 2018. He also admitted he was literally a troll who sought to maximize chaos on NS.

Go to the Japan "Co-Prosperity" thread, read the last pages and there's evidence.
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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 am

This is not the sort of drama I expected to find on NSG of all places.
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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 am

Also I don't want to be the harbinger of bad news but his puppet Nekostan-e Sharqi still lives. So... keep your guards up.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:18 am

Polska Rzeczpospolita Robotnicza wrote:
My Political Fantasy wrote:
Apparently Neko was so much of a weeb that he defend the actions of the Japanese army in ww2.

Basically, Picairn broke him and then he admitted he was a troll that had an account called Katzenstaat a few years ago and just wanted to annoy NS and by extension the mods.

So yeah. New Yugoslavia was vindicated after all.


So, I was the hero all along?
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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:20 am

Istoreya wrote:This is not the sort of drama I expected to find on NSG of all places.

For once, I am in the center of it all. Don't know whether I should celebrate or be sad.

New yugoslavaia wrote:So, I was the hero all along?

Congrats, you died for a just cause. You are a martyr of NSG now.
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Quartia and Karafuto
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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:31 am

Huh. He never seemed like a troll, this was quite a surprise.

As for this thread, there's 2 ways you could think of "ailurocracy", either in the way Nekostan intended, which is as a form of protest vote, or in the furry sense, of creating a species of sentient cats.
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Lemmingry
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Founded: Jan 25, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Lemmingry » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:45 am

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:Huh. He never seemed like a troll, this was quite a surprise.

As for this thread, there's 2 ways you could think of "ailurocracy", either in the way Nekostan intended, which is as a form of protest vote, or in the furry sense, of creating a species of sentient cats.


Ngl, the latter idea would have been great.
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