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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
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26%
No
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Neutral
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7%
Other (please explain)
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:09 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
My hands are more interesting to her than the picture of Mayor Max II.

She is not happy that there are other animals in charge of places on earth ?

Also:

The Mayor’s duties include visiting with locals and out-of-town visitors, attending business grand openings and other town functions, being in the town’s two annual parades, and promoting Idyllwild.


This is evidence that an animal can indeed be perfectly suited to hold office. He is e.g. performing better than Ted Cruz.


She doesn’t even care for she already rules.

The latter is of course true. Compared to corrupt and brutal human rulers we should indeed give animals a chance.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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A-Series-Of-Tubes
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Ex-Nation

Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:21 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:The latter is of course true. Compared to corrupt and brutal human rulers we should indeed give animals a chance.


This is the basis of your whole proposal. Some rulers do worse than nothing, so we should give a chance to an animal, on the expectation that they will do exactly nothing.

Now I would consider that stupid, and bad math, except that you've let the thread go 15 pages. Despite repeated corrections and rejections.

What the animal fuck is wrong with you Neko? Do you expect anyone to take your opinions about culture or China or really anything but your pet cat, seriously? The damage this thread has done to your reputation is catastrophic. Your reputation is catatonic!
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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:32 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:The latter is of course true. Compared to corrupt and brutal human rulers we should indeed give animals a chance.


This is the basis of your whole proposal. Some rulers do worse than nothing, so we should give a chance to an animal, on the expectation that they will do exactly nothing.


Nono - that they will perform admirably when welcoming visitors, that they create news that put the location on the map, that they will provide aid and comfort to the elderly etc. etc.

Not nothing.
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New yugoslavaia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:34 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:The latter is of course true. Compared to corrupt and brutal human rulers we should indeed give animals a chance.


This is the basis of your whole proposal. Some rulers do worse than nothing, so we should give a chance to an animal, on the expectation that they will do exactly nothing.

Now I would consider that stupid, and bad math, except that you've let the thread go 15 pages. Despite repeated corrections and rejections.

What the animal fuck is wrong with you Neko? Do you expect anyone to take your opinions about culture or China or really anything but your pet cat, seriously? The damage this thread has done to your reputation is catastrophic. Your reputation is catatonic!


It would of only gone on for 14 pages if some poor fools didn't go to the trouble of digging up this abomination of a thread.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
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Tinhampton
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Anarchy

Postby Tinhampton » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:53 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Queen of what? Queen of where?


Nekostan of course.

That nation doesn't exist in the real world. Congratulations :'(
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:56 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nekostan of course.

That nation doesn't exist in the real world. Congratulations :'(


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Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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The Alma Mater
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Founded: May 23, 2004
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:37 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
This is the basis of your whole proposal. Some rulers do worse than nothing, so we should give a chance to an animal, on the expectation that they will do exactly nothing.

Now I would consider that stupid, and bad math, except that you've let the thread go 15 pages. Despite repeated corrections and rejections.

What the animal fuck is wrong with you Neko? Do you expect anyone to take your opinions about culture or China or really anything but your pet cat, seriously? The damage this thread has done to your reputation is catastrophic. Your reputation is catatonic!


It would of only gone on for 14 pages if some poor fools didn't go to the trouble of digging up this abomination of a thread.


Meh, the basic idea is quite decent. "Are humans really the best to rule other humans" ?
Scifi has postulated we should let robots do it for decades. Maybe it is true.
Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease.
It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:39 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
It would of only gone on for 14 pages if some poor fools didn't go to the trouble of digging up this abomination of a thread.


Meh, the basic idea is quite decent. "Are humans really the best to rule other humans" ?
Scifi has postulated we should let robots do it for decades. Maybe it is true.


AI isn't a bad idea.
Just make sure the programming isn't faulty.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Tyunmen
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Founded: Jul 12, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Tyunmen » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:41 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
It would of only gone on for 14 pages if some poor fools didn't go to the trouble of digging up this abomination of a thread.


Meh, the basic idea is quite decent. "Are humans really the best to rule other humans" ?
Scifi has postulated we should let robots do it for decades. Maybe it is true.

HOWEVER that might backfire and the A.I and the robots might murder us all/use us as power sources/torture us for fun.

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Shu Chengdu
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Founded: Feb 19, 2021
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Postby Shu Chengdu » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:42 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Meh, the basic idea is quite decent. "Are humans really the best to rule other humans" ?
Scifi has postulated we should let robots do it for decades. Maybe it is true.


AI isn't a bad idea.
Just make sure the programming isn't faulty.


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Treciene
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Founded: Jul 24, 2020
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Postby Treciene » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:47 am

Humans are literally smarter than cats. Why would we put them on the world stage? I think they would just cause the downfall of countries,
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:52 am

Treciene wrote:Humans are literally smarter than cats. Why would we put them on the world stage? I think they would just cause the downfall of countries,


"Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than dolphins because he has achieved so much--the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But, conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons."
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But seriously, humans do a damn good job of fucking up. Would it really make a difference if we do whatever the "clever and thoughtful" mister Trumps says or follow the random actions of a cat,dog or punxsutawney phil ?
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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:23 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Treciene wrote:Humans are literally smarter than cats. Why would we put them on the world stage? I think they would just cause the downfall of countries,


"Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than dolphins because he has achieved so much--the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But, conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons."
--- Douglas Adams, So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.

But seriously, humans do a damn good job of fucking up. Would it really make a difference if we do whatever the "clever and thoughtful" mister Trumps says or follow the random actions of a cat,dog or punxsutawney phil ?

Because random cat actions don't translate to political ideas. Trump's ideas are stupid but at least he had ideas.

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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:31 am

I like how there's a "I" in the title implying an anticipated 500+ pages of discussion about this needing a second thread.
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Infected Mushroom
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:34 am

Rusozak wrote:I like how there's a "I" in the title implying an anticipated 500+ pages of discussion about this needing a second thread.


There could be a thread II... should there be?

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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:35 am

Treciene wrote:Humans are literally smarter than cats. Why would we put them on the world stage? I think they would just cause the downfall of countries,


Why cats? Why not some other animal?

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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:47 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Treciene wrote:Humans are literally smarter than cats. Why would we put them on the world stage? I think they would just cause the downfall of countries,


Why cats? Why not some other animal?

As I pointed out above, we already have a town which is run by a dog mayor - who performs the duty perfectly, since those are defined as greeting strangers, playing with kids and lonely elders, being present at store openings and creating media attention for the town.
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:55 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Why cats? Why not some other animal?

As I pointed out above, we already have a town which is run by a dog mayor - who performs the duty perfectly, since those are defined as greeting strangers, playing with kids and lonely elders, being present at store openings and creating media attention for the town.


I don’t like dogs. :(

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:07 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Rusozak wrote:I like how there's a "I" in the title implying an anticipated 500+ pages of discussion about this needing a second thread.


There could be a thread II... should there be?

Please no. I only revived the thread as a joke, not so that it could have over 10000 replies eventually.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:52 am

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
There could be a thread II... should there be?

Please no. I only revived the thread as a joke, not so that it could have over 10000 replies eventually.


Well now you know what happens.
Now let's hope everyone is wise enough to let this thread die off.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Lemmingry
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Postby Lemmingry » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:01 pm

Since no one takes this seriously anymore, I placed my cat on a political compass.
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:35 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:As I pointed out above, we already have a town which is run by a dog mayor - who performs the duty perfectly, since those are defined as greeting strangers, playing with kids and lonely elders, being present at store openings and creating media attention for the town.


I don’t like dogs. :(


Hence the ailurocracy.
Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:51 am

What a silly idea.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:32 am

The New California Republic wrote:What a silly idea.


In other news, water is wet.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Founded: Dec 01, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:52 am

The New California Republic wrote:What a silly idea.


You need to refute it if you think so.
Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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