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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
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No
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Neutral
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Other (please explain)
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Total votes : 136

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Voxija
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Postby Voxija » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:30 am

I, for one, welcome our feline overlords.

But in all seriousness, this idea is ludicrous for a national government. A real country where a cat is a head of state would be the laughingstock of every other country, and as for within that country, well I'm wary about personality cults around human leaders, so why wouldn't I be wary of a cat leader who's being constantly shilled by the media?

For local government, however, electing a cat for mayor or other offices could work as a form of protest. In 2013, a cat ran for mayor of a city in Mexico, and in 1938, a mule named Boston Curtis actually won the election for Republican committeeman. However, such local leaders must remain purely ceremonial, as the real power lies in the humans behind the cat.

All this only applies if the cats are nonsapient. If the cats can think, and be intelligent enough to understand politics, all my theories go out the window. It would be quite interesting if a country was run by a talking, thinking animal. That animal would have a unique perspective on natures of government and how to run a country. However, that animal probably wouldn't understand the needs of humans, and wouldn't be an effective leader for our species.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:34 am

This idea is not just wrong, it's stupid.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:41 am

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:46 am

Ethel mermania wrote:(Image)

OBEY THE KITTY!


Yes.
If Chairman Mao were Chairman Meow a lot less people would have perished.
If Joseph Stalin were Meowseph Stalin a lot less people would have perished.
If Adolf Hitler were Adolf Kitler a lot less people would have perished.

Cats rule; dictators suck!
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
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Postby Adamede » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:47 am

More scrutiny should be put on our leaders, not less.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:49 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:(Image)

OBEY THE KITTY!


Yes.
If Chairman Mao were Chairman Meow a lot less people would have perished.
If Joseph Stalin were Meowseph Stalin a lot less people would have perished.
If Adolf Hitler were Adolf Kitler a lot less people would have perished.

Cats rule; dictators suck!


Only because cats dom't have the same level of intelligence as us.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:06 am

Agarntrop wrote:You have a lot of wack ideas


Are you just now noticing or just now pointing it out?
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:28 am

Adamede wrote:More scrutiny should be put on our leaders, not less.


Exactly. Hence better feline ones than opaque human ones.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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Abolish China and save lives.
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Postby Page » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:30 am

Agarntrop wrote:You have a lot of wack ideas


This reminds me, I have a question for the OP. If a dog becomes the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, is he still a good boy?
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:31 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:You have a lot of wack ideas


Are you just now noticing or just now pointing it out?

The latter. He also advocated 'abolishing' China. Not the CCP, China itself.
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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:32 am

...What?

This is a joke, right?
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:37 am

Page wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:You have a lot of wack ideas


This reminds me, I have a question for the OP. If a dog becomes the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, is he still a good boy?


No since China should not exist.
Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Nuroblav
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:40 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:This is just anarchism with extra pawses.

Indeed! With felines in office, little decisions would be made and power would collapse...

...ergo it has my support :p

ok but seriously this is certainly one of the wackiest ideas I've seen here, although there has been worse
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:41 am

This sounds like a very very poor idea.
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Postby Vaspelia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:53 am

We have the fucking Reptilians, just make them finally appear to public-view. Sure our human religions would have to go violently to make space for the worship of Baal. But having Psychic Dimension-hopping Serpents instead of spineless and lying boomers as leaders would be fucking metal.

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:55 am

Vaspelia wrote:We have the fucking Reptilians, just make them finally appear to public-view. Sure our human religions would have to go violently to make space for the worship of Baal. But having Psychic Dimension-hopping Serpents instead of spineless and lying boomers as leaders would be fucking metal.


And much better than cats.
Besides, Baal might actually be cool.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Quartia and Karafuto
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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:57 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The point is precisely ensuring that the head of state is purely ceremonial, that is, we want Parliamentary democracy. I would even argue that the state becomes constitutional feline monarchy with cat pictures replacing human ones on currencies and other places where leader faces show up to permanently destroy cults of personality.

That makes perfect sense - in a nation like the USA. My nation's presidency is *already* ceremonial, so it would be pointless to put a cat there.
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:59 am

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The point is precisely ensuring that the head of state is purely ceremonial, that is, we want Parliamentary democracy. I would even argue that the state becomes constitutional feline monarchy with cat pictures replacing human ones on currencies and other places where leader faces show up to permanently destroy cults of personality.

That makes perfect sense - in a nation like the USA. My nation's presidency is *already* ceremonial, so it would be pointless to put a cat there.


It’s still useful since it will prevent the PM from establishing their cults of personality. Everyone should hear about the cat head of state 24/7 whenever they watch news. We can even live broadcast the cat in their presidential palace.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:01 am

Ok Neko.
Are just some extreme troll who's just keeping a straight face...or are you really just this delusional and xenophobic?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:02 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:Ok Neko.
Are just some extreme troll who's just keeping a straight face...or are you really just this delusional and xenophobic?


Hmm? Xenophobic as in..hating non-cats? Nope. Also where is the delusion?

I’m very serious here.
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Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:04 am

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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:19 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Ok Neko.
Are just some extreme troll who's just keeping a straight face...or are you really just this delusional and xenophobic?


Hmm? Xenophobic as in..hating non-cats? Nope. Also where is the delusion?

I’m very serious here.


I mean getting rid of the entirety of China and not just the CCP government. Do the people have to go too?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:25 am

This is entertaining, but obviously impractical.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:36 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Hmm? Xenophobic as in..hating non-cats? Nope. Also where is the delusion?

I’m very serious here.


I mean getting rid of the entirety of China and not just the CCP government. Do the people have to go too?


Nope. I didn’t lie when I said “abolish China and save lives”. Please go to the China thread to understand what abolitionism is.
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Welcome to the Nekostan-e Gharbi. Our ancestors were a group of genetically enhanced Israeli cats raised by two Iranian Jewish women, Rachel Davidi and Esther Moshel. We are a constitutional monarchy where a line of benevolent and powerless feline queens “guide” the citizens or more precisely are the subject of their constant gossiping.

Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Quartia and Karafuto
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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:40 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Nope. I didn’t lie when I said “abolish China and save lives”. Please go to the China thread to understand what abolitionism is.

Abolition sounds like you want to turn China into an American puppet like Taiwan which... yeah that's xenophobic.
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