American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Bombadil]

I'll allow it.

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

[Esternial]

Sure OK but that's not the point I was making.

Who has to own this? Everyone with a Republican Party card? Everyone that voted Republican? Everyone that didn't vote Biden?

This "us vs. them" shtik is very distracting and it feels like it's leading up to some bouts of indiscriminate shouting.

the gop leadership, to a great extent, and the base, to a far lesser extent -- cult psychology is real

and yes, if anyone's up for indiscriminate shouting, it's me, i'm in

Those are important details, at least in my opinion. People going off against "the Republicans" and "the Democrats" seems too broad-spectrum and an easy way to toss out what little goodwill is on the table.

[Senkaku]

I'll allow it.

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

thank you this has been bothering me for the past year

[Diahon]

different time, and while the same people who would later root for trump to fuckmurderkill were active, they were not nearly as toxic

hell, had trump not emerged from the ninth circle of hell or something, the republican party could've taken on an entirely different electoral path

but that was then, let there be stakes now

Well, some dude once said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

Now you must ask yourself, are you one of those remembering all of this correctly?

oh, you mean they were a different kind of toxic then, just as antidemocratic but not so manifest? i'll take that too

just lemme recheck my history for a bit

[Jerzylvania]

2008.
Economic collapse and ruin.

Billions wasted in the Middle East on a bonehead war. W is at 28% approval.

2010
The GOP wins 60 seats and take the house. They always been the undead, son.

And the main reason they took the House is because they tricked the Democrats into pushing an extremely unpopular right-wing idea, the individual insurance mandate, into the health care bill, and then all unanimously opposed it. That was actually quite a brilliant strategy.

Sure. And then we tricked them in 2012 into nominating Mitt. You know the guy that originally hatched that plan as Gov. of MA.

REVENGE!!! The pie was in their face again!

So ridiculous.

[Atheris]

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

[Bombadil]

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

thank you this has been bothering me for the past year

(of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.

So a pandemic doesn't need to be global.. ha.. apologise immediately!

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

[Cannot think of a name]

I'll allow it.

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

I'm calling it an ATM machine and you can't stop me.

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Goddammit, this place is lousy with ninjas...

YYyyyyyyyyeep. They didn't even wait. I remember my mom complaining about Obama not fixing the economy before he was even swore in.

Or how a lot of younger people think Obama was the cause of the recession.

Or wondering why he didn't do something about 9/11. I think that was one of those 'man in field' bits on the Daily Show.

[Esternial]

I'll allow it.

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

What if someone on the ISS catches it?

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

thank you this has been bothering me for the past year

OH MY GOD IT MAKES MY WANT TO SCREAM!!!!!

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

*Inhales*

"Global pandemic" is redundant because "pan" means "all" in this context and "demic" means "the people," meaning the etymology of "pandemic" is literally "all the people." And because the clinical definition of a pandemic is a disease that has spread to multiple continents, the word "global" is implied bu default. The disease is now on Antarctica, too, so it is global, but that word does not need to be overtly included. THE END! Thank you, and good night!

What if someone on the ISS catches it?

Yup.

[Bombadil]

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

..'so I entered my PIN number into the ATM machine and..'

..anyway, tis but a diversion and the Mods will be angry with us for continuing this.. (he says to ensure he gets the last word in..)

[Jerzylvania]

Well, some dude once said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

Now you must ask yourself, are you one of those remembering all of this correctly?

oh, you mean they were a different kind of toxic then, just as antidemocratic but not so manifest? i'll take that too

just lemme recheck my history for a bit

Well, it helps to be an adult in the years we swear to remember. Otherwise you must take the word of others ...who may not know shit.

Tricky tricky.

[Kowani]

basically: the GOP has to actually go through the metal detectors now

[Jerzylvania]

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

lol, no, n = the number of moles.

[Diahon]

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

no, the n stands for "nomenclature"... so first you enter your full name, including any middle names, or your maiden name if you're married and have taken up your spouse's surname, then break down the etymology of each of your names, down to the earliest conjectured protolanguage each name descended from...

[Adamede]

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

Personal Identification Number.

[Kexholm Karelia]

no

they gotta own this and kill the gop before their base and donors kill it off for them

that's how the republican party makes amends at this point

Sure OK but that's not the point I was making.

Who has to own this? Everyone with a Republican Party card? Everyone that voted Republican? Everyone that didn't vote Biden?

This "us vs. them" shtik is very distracting and it feels like it's leading up to some bouts of indiscriminate shouting.

With both parties being big tent parties holding a wide variety of policy positions, it makes no sense to use "us vs. them" rhetoric anyways with party labels since different wings of a party have radically different views. Two party system symptoms

[Cannot think of a name]

Next you'll be taking me up on the phrase 'PIN number'..

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

It's a case by case basis based on people's PIN.

Tell me yours and I'll let you know.



...don't do that, obviously. I hope obviously.

[Bombadil]

Oh no...does N stand for "number?"

It's a case by case basis based on people's PIN.

Tell me yours and I'll let you know.



...don't do that, obviously. I hope obviously.

Your mother's maiden name and your favourite book will do..

[Freiheit Reich]

If you spill hot coffee on yourself

You know a woman was actually horrifically burned all over her body by literal boiling-hot coffee at McDonald's, and when she sued them, they ran a smear campaign to turn her into a national punchline like this?

or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers,

A lot of McDonald's content from you today, but I'll take your point more broadly on health issues created by corporate products, whether it's hamburgers or cigarettes or talc baby powder. It turns out, when you're presented with only unhealthy options to put in your body, or you're told things are healthy which are in fact terrible for you, you're not in control of the situation and the adverse health effects that result could hardly be said to be your fault.

or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs,

I haven't heard of this happening, and it does sound pretty funny, but given the level of insight you show in the rest of this post, I'm almost afraid the actual story is some terrible tragedy where the company really was at fault.

it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.

Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).

No, libertarians have been hoodwinked by corporate propaganda to advocate politically for the financial interests of vast, impersonal entities that couldn't care less if they lived or died.

1) Yes, the coffee was hot. Yes, I feel bad she was hurt. yes, the US needs national healthcare so she could have gotten her burns taken care of without demanding money from McDonald's. Yes, she was wrong to have sued McDonald's. I don't find the situation funny. I feel upset that a sneaky lawyer likely encouraged her to sue for a ridiculous amount. Would she even have made that much money if the coffee made her paralyzed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v ... estaurants

Although a New Mexico civil jury awarded $2.86 million to plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman who suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant, ultimately Liebeck was only awarded $640,000.

Stella May Shreeve Liebeck

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195 ... ay-liebeck

She died 12 years later meaning she was awarded over $50,000 per year of her remaining life because of a burn which did not paralyze or kill her. Her remaining life was likely worth around $20,000 X 12= $240,000 (it depends if she had investment income or just SSN). Likely, she would not have worked full-time from age 79-91 (and she still got the same social security payment). The burn did not reduce her income. Also, most workers in their prime years do not make $640,000 over a 12-year period and remember, the coffee burn would not have stopped 12 years of income. Even if the coffee burn killed her, the lawsuit seems too steep just going by estimated value of her remaining life (valuing a human life is quite controversial but it is done in courts).

2) Yes, McDonald's showed attractive people eating their food. Cindy Crawford enjoyed Pepsi. Paris Hilton enjoyed Carl Jr.'s. The company never said you will become slim and attractive by just eating their food. Subway showed a TRUE story of a gentleman losing weight (and the ad mentioned Jared WALKED to the Subway). The ad might have implied that but in real life, one can find thin people eating fast food burgers and drinking pop (just as I will bet there are fat vegetarians that refuse to eat at places which serve meat). Fraud is wrong BUT implying and promoting something without actually lying is perfectly fine and often also the truth. People that sue fast-food places for making them obese are just despicable money grabbers.

3) Movie poster lawsuit. She lost the case but the fact she sued and scared the company (and wasted the court's time) is a problem. She is a greedy and shameless woman.

Showtime Beats Lawsuit Over Scary 'Dexter' Subway Poster. She lives in New York City and likely sees scarier things every day if she takes the subway.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-e ... er-1182878

She claimed Showtime intentionally and negligently created a hazard for pedestrians by placing a "disturbing, provocative, shocking and fear inducing" image on the stairs and argued the New York City Transit Authority, MTA and CBS were liable for negligence for allowing the ad to be placed in that location.

People are greedy by nature. Libertarians try to ensure this greed doesn't reduce the freedoms of others and is kept in check. Greed is good until it reduces others' freedoms and hurts other people (offering unhealthy choices to customers is not hurting people).

[Jerzylvania]

You know a woman was actually horrifically burned all over her body by literal boiling-hot coffee at McDonald's, and when she sued them, they ran a smear campaign to turn her into a national punchline like this?


A lot of McDonald's content from you today, but I'll take your point more broadly on health issues created by corporate products, whether it's hamburgers or cigarettes or talc baby powder. It turns out, when you're presented with only unhealthy options to put in your body, or you're told things are healthy which are in fact terrible for you, you're not in control of the situation and the adverse health effects that result could hardly be said to be your fault.

I haven't heard of this happening, and it does sound pretty funny, but given the level of insight you show in the rest of this post, I'm almost afraid the actual story is some terrible tragedy where the company really was at fault.


No, libertarians have been hoodwinked by corporate propaganda to advocate politically for the financial interests of vast, impersonal entities that couldn't care less if they lived or died.

1) Yes, the coffee was hot. Yes, I feel bad she was hurt. yes, the US needs national healthcare so she could have gotten her burns taken care of without demanding money from McDonald's. Yes, she was wrong to have sued McDonald's. I don't find the situation funny. I feel upset that a sneaky lawyer likely encouraged her to sue for a ridiculous amount. Would she even have made that much money if the coffee made her paralyzed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v ... estaurants

Although a New Mexico civil jury awarded $2.86 million to plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman who suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant, ultimately Liebeck was only awarded $640,000.

Stella May Shreeve Liebeck

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195 ... ay-liebeck

She died 12 years later meaning she was awarded over $50,000 per year of her remaining life because of a burn which did not paralyze or kill her. Her remaining life was likely worth around $20,000 X 12= $240,000 (it depends if she had investment income or just SSN). Likely, she would not have worked full-time from age 79-91 (and she still got the same social security payment). The burn did not reduce her income. Also, most workers in their prime years do not make $640,000 over a 12-year period and remember, the coffee burn would not have stopped 12 years of income. Even if the coffee burn killed her, the lawsuit seems too steep just going by estimated value of her remaining life (valuing a human life is quite controversial but it is done in courts).

2) Yes, McDonald's showed attractive people eating their food. Cindy Crawford enjoyed Pepsi. Paris Hilton enjoyed Carl Jr.'s. The company never said you will become slim and attractive by just eating their food. Subway showed a TRUE story of a gentleman losing weight (and the ad mentioned Jared WALKED to the Subway). The ad might have implied that but in real life, one can find thin people eating fast food burgers and drinking pop (just as I will bet there are fat vegetarians that refuse to eat at places which serve meat). Fraud is wrong BUT implying and promoting something without actually lying is perfectly fine and often also the truth. People that sue fast-food places for making them obese are just despicable money grabbers.

3) Movie poster lawsuit. She lost the case but the fact she sued and scared the company (and wasted the court's time) is a problem. She is a greedy and shameless woman.

Showtime Beats Lawsuit Over Scary 'Dexter' Subway Poster. She lives in New York City and likely sees scarier things every day if she takes the subway.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-e ... er-1182878

She claimed Showtime intentionally and negligently created a hazard for pedestrians by placing a "disturbing, provocative, shocking and fear inducing" image on the stairs and argued the New York City Transit Authority, MTA and CBS were liable for negligence for allowing the ad to be placed in that location.

People are greedy by nature. Libertarians try to ensure this greed doesn't reduce the freedoms of others and is kept in check. Greed is good until it reduces others' freedoms and hurts other people (offering unhealthy choices to customers is not hurting people).

Greed is good until you forget the password of your forgotten but now extremely valuable bitcoin account and you are down to two more chances to guess it right before it's encrypted.

[Freiheit Reich]

Not a purge where they will be legally beat and thrown in reeducation camps like during the China Cultural Revolution BUT many are being punished by employers and schools for their political views (some leftists like the manager Ozzie Guillen faced this purge as well for supporting Castro and his punishment bothers me today even though I oppose Castro). Many Americans don't like the idea of people having opposing viewpoints. If you tell me that you like Hitler or Stalin, I might be surprised but I would want to know why and I could still get along wit that person as long as they did not get angry if I had different views. I would be fine if a co-worker was a Nazi or a Maoist or a Jihadist or a man-hating feminist in his/her spare time as long as he/she was respectful and polite at work and didn't force his/her views on me. What happens outside of work should stay outside of work. Most Americans are less tolerant though.

I suppose I can only speak for myself but I think very, very few people have any interest in going after Grandpa Bill from Ohio who had a Trump sign in his yard and sent the Trump campaign fifty bucks, nor does anyone want to bother whatever poor intern had to go to McDonald's for Trump.

But people like Stephen Miller, Rudy Giuliani, Michael Flynn, the active participants in the regime, they definitely deserve the social ostracizing equivalent of a death penalty.

I can find more cases of people getting fired for daring to support the president. Chiang Kei-shek supporters that stayed in mainland China in the 1950's were also punished for supporting the 'wrong side' (which happened to be the proper leader) in the Chinese Civil War. We are entering McCarthyism Part II: The Leftists Fight Back

BREAKING: Patriot Gets FIRED for Supporting President Trump

https://freedomnewsusa.com/breaking-pat ... ent-trump/

Nearly Half Of Young Americans Say It’s Okay To Fire People Who Support Trump

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/31/ne ... ort-trump/

Forty-four percent of Americans younger than age 30 believe a company is correct in firing an executive because he or she personally donated to President Trump’s reelection campaign.

Reporter Fired After Expressing Support for Donald Trump on Facebook

https://www.thewrap.com/reporter-fired/

High school teacher and coach fired in Michigan after saying 'Trump is our president'

https://thepostmillennial.com/high-scho ... -president

[Andsed]

You know a woman was actually horrifically burned all over her body by literal boiling-hot coffee at McDonald's, and when she sued them, they ran a smear campaign to turn her into a national punchline like this?


A lot of McDonald's content from you today, but I'll take your point more broadly on health issues created by corporate products, whether it's hamburgers or cigarettes or talc baby powder. It turns out, when you're presented with only unhealthy options to put in your body, or you're told things are healthy which are in fact terrible for you, you're not in control of the situation and the adverse health effects that result could hardly be said to be your fault.

I haven't heard of this happening, and it does sound pretty funny, but given the level of insight you show in the rest of this post, I'm almost afraid the actual story is some terrible tragedy where the company really was at fault.


No, libertarians have been hoodwinked by corporate propaganda to advocate politically for the financial interests of vast, impersonal entities that couldn't care less if they lived or died.

1) Yes, the coffee was hot. Yes, I feel bad she was hurt. yes, the US needs national healthcare so she could have gotten her burns taken care of without demanding money from McDonald's. Yes, she was wrong to have sued McDonald's. I don't find the situation funny. I feel upset that a sneaky lawyer likely encouraged her to sue for a ridiculous amount. Would she even have made that much money if the coffee made her paralyzed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v ... estaurants

Although a New Mexico civil jury awarded $2.86 million to plaintiff Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman who suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant, ultimately Liebeck was only awarded $640,000.

Stella May Shreeve Liebeck

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195 ... ay-liebeck

She died 12 years later meaning she was awarded over $50,000 per year of her remaining life because of a burn which did not paralyze or kill her. Her remaining life was likely worth around $20,000 X 12= $240,000 (it depends if she had investment income or just SSN). Likely, she would not have worked full-time from age 79-91 (and she still got the same social security payment). The burn did not reduce her income. Also, most workers in their prime years do not make $640,000 over a 12-year period and remember, the coffee burn would not have stopped 12 years of income. Even if the coffee burn killed her, the lawsuit seems too steep just going by estimated value of her remaining life (valuing a human life is quite controversial but it is done in courts).

Liebeck lawsuit only asked for McDonalds to pay her medical bills, the extra money was added on by the court as a punishment for McDonalds to get their act together. And the coffee was not just ¨hot¨ It was fucking scalding. It literally gave her third degree burns, there was no good reason for anyone to serve coffee that hot.