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Freiheit Reich wrote:

Omniabstracta wrote:Many American libertarians seem like “conservatives who like weed,” who abandon their scruples and vote for any old Republican who comes along. There are a few principled libertarians who I at least respect, even if I strongly disagree with them, but they’re few and far between.

Many people feel 'trapped' by the two party system and vote for the lesser of two evils. Perhaps an election similar to how awards are voted in baseball could allow minor parties to gain votes. For example, people could be allowed to have 2nd and 3rd place choices and these would count as 0.5 and 0.3 votes (an example). People would then be less afraid of casting a second place vote for a candidate they like more.

Another idea is allow seats based on percentage of votes. If a minor party captures 10% of the vote, they could get 10% of the seats. I believe some European nations have a similar multiparty system.

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

Freiheit Reich wrote:

Omniabstracta wrote:Many American libertarians seem like “conservatives who like weed,” who abandon their scruples and vote for any old Republican who comes along. There are a few principled libertarians who I at least respect, even if I strongly disagree with them, but they’re few and far between.

Many people feel 'trapped' by the two party system and vote for the lesser of two evils. Perhaps an election similar to how awards are voted in baseball could allow minor parties to gain votes. For example, people could be allowed to have 2nd and 3rd place choices and these would count as 0.5 and 0.3 votes (an example). People would then be less afraid of casting a second place vote for a candidate they like more.

Another idea is allow seats based on percentage of votes. If a minor party captures 10% of the vote, they could get 10% of the seats. I believe some European nations have a similar multiparty system.

Kexholm Karelia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

Impeachment means nothing anymore lol

Valrifell wrote:

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

For what?

Valrifell wrote:

Kexholm Karelia wrote:Impeachment means nothing anymore lol

Republicans, after the Ukraine Scandal during Trump's first impeachment: "The Democrats are weaponizing the impeachment procedure for petty partisan politics!"

Republicans now: "Fuck it, we gotta impeach Biden for breathing"

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

Freiheit Reich wrote:

Omniabstracta wrote:Many American libertarians seem like “conservatives who like weed,” who abandon their scruples and vote for any old Republican who comes along. There are a few principled libertarians who I at least respect, even if I strongly disagree with them, but they’re few and far between.

Many people feel 'trapped' by the two party system and vote for the lesser of two evils. Perhaps an election similar to how awards are voted in baseball could allow minor parties to gain votes. For example, people could be allowed to have 2nd and 3rd place choices and these would count as 0.5 and 0.3 votes (an example). People would then be less afraid of casting a second place vote for a candidate they like more.

Another idea is allow seats based on percentage of votes. If a minor party captures 10% of the vote, they could get 10% of the seats. I believe some European nations have a similar multiparty system.

Valrifell wrote:

Kexholm Karelia wrote:Impeachment means nothing anymore lol

Republicans, after the Ukraine Scandal during Trump's first impeachment: "The Democrats are weaponizing the impeachment procedure for petty partisan politics!"

Republicans now: "Fuck it, we gotta impeach Biden for breathing"

Esternial wrote:

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

Give it 8 more years and this'll be standard procedure.

Esternial wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Republicans, after the Ukraine Scandal during Trump's first impeachment: "The Democrats are weaponizing the impeachment procedure for petty partisan politics!"

Republicans now: "Fuck it, we gotta impeach Biden for breathing"

It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

Esternial wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Republicans, after the Ukraine Scandal during Trump's first impeachment: "The Democrats are weaponizing the impeachment procedure for petty partisan politics!"

Republicans now: "Fuck it, we gotta impeach Biden for breathing"

It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

Esternial wrote:

Kowani wrote:Majorie Taylor Greene says she'll be bringing articles of impeachment against Biden

Give it 8 more years and this'll be standard procedure.

Diahon wrote:

Esternial wrote:Give it 8 more years and this'll be standard procedure.

the gop will be dead as fuck well before then, and good fucking riddance

Bombadil wrote:

Esternial wrote:It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

Is it though, near everything I hear coming out of state level GOP seems deluded.

Esternial wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Republicans, after the Ukraine Scandal during Trump's first impeachment: "The Democrats are weaponizing the impeachment procedure for petty partisan politics!"

Republicans now: "Fuck it, we gotta impeach Biden for breathing"

It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

Esternial wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
Is it though, near everything I hear coming out of state level GOP seems deluded.

OK, that's fair, multiple tarts then. A bakery of political smoke and mirrors.

New haven america wrote:

Esternial wrote:It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

There's a few more Reps than just her.

Remember, Cruz and Hawley were giving speeches about how Trump supporters need to block the certification by any means necessary just 10 minutes because the Capitol Building was stormed.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Esternial wrote:Give it 8 more years and this'll be standard procedure.

Finally becoming a formality ten years after and then in twenty a rite of passage when each POTUS's term is completed.

Major-Tom wrote:

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Actually, many big corporations favor regulations and bailouts when it benefits them. Libertarians are against big bailouts and regulations (like regulations blocking Air BNB and Uber in favor or major hotel chains and taxi companies, or regulations that ban importing drugs from Canada, or restaurants trying to prevent food trucks from their neighborhoods) and free money which favors big companies (such as taxes to pay for profession sports stadiums)

Libertarians might be more the party of the upper middle class (like small business owners) and the GOP and oddly certain democrats seem to favor certain wealthy types (ex. owners of companies that benefit from the industrial military complex and industrial prison complex and major league sports owners and the Hollywood elite).

Many libertarians have major issues with Trump. I lean more libertarian than republican and I also have major issues with Trump as well (but Biden/Harris are much worse because they agree with Trump on many of his worst points and disagree on most of his good points).

I feel like you're doing a good job reading the small parts of the print, but not the whole page. Big corporations favor regulations and bailouts when it benefits them. You're correct. The key word is when it benefits them. When a corporation acts against the interests of society as a whole, and only in their own self-interest, generally a regulatory framework to mitigate that abuse does not benefit them. And they certainly wouldn't favor it.

Trump is the king of crony capitalism, has been his whole life. If I were still in that libertarian mindset, I'd be more outraged by a wannabe authoritarian and nepotistic, crony capitalist than I would a moderate neoliberal, as the former stands in direct contrast to the individual liberties and freedom that your ideology professes to uphold.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Diahon wrote:
the gop will be dead as fuck well before then, and good fucking riddance

We've said that before. Never happens.

Valrifell wrote:

Esternial wrote:It's just one Rep that's gone off her rocker, for once can we not include half the northern hemisphere in one political tart's mad plot?

I'll remember this when the majority of House Republicans vote for impeachment.

Just kidding I'll completely forget, I have the memory of a fish