American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Cedoria]

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?

No but I am surprised the attempt on his life didn't make him say "that's it, I've had enough."

Nothing will make him say that. He wants to be President one day. So does Cruz, that's why they stuck to him like crap to a blanket this whole time.

[Shrillland]

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?

No but I am surprised the attempt on his life didn't make him say "that's it, I've had enough."

It did. He just knows that invoking the 25th means more and possibly successful attempts on his life.

[Cordel One]

To be perfectly honest I kinda want to see it happen.

Totally wanna see it.

Yeah, it woud be great.

[Xanthal]

Some are mad, some are proud of it, some are depressed, and some think it's anti-fascists. I wonder what they'll decide to stick to.

Don't make the mistake of considering them a single mind. One of the great fallacies of tribal thinking is to lump the other into a collective. "We" are vibrant individuals, "they" are a faceless enemy mob. That kind of dehumanization is poison.

[Cedoria]

No but I am surprised the attempt on his life didn't make him say "that's it, I've had enough."

It did. He just knows that invoking the 25th means more and possibly successful attempts on his life.

Then the only hope is a bunch of Republican congressmen who will now agree to impeachment. I hope NSGers with Republican reps are overloading their phones and emaIls with calls to pressure them.

[Shrillland]

Some are mad, some are proud of it, some are depressed, and some think it's anti-fascists. I wonder what they'll decide to stick to.

Don't make the mistake of considering them a single mind. One of the great fallacies of tribal thinking is to lump the other into a collective. "We" are vibrant individuals, "they" are a faceless enemy mob. That kind of dehumanization is poison.

I know they are vibrant individuals with their own minds, hearts, ideas, and opinions. That's why I don't underestimate the danger we're in.

[Senkaku]

So what we know so far:

- on the 4th and 5th, DoD sabotages the readiness of the DC National Guard
- on the 6th, Trump goes to the rally and basically incites them to storm the building
- Capitol Police are woefully (perhaps even suspiciously) unprepared and are then overwhelmed
- reinforcements are first nowhere to be found and then rejected or otherwise blocked
- eventually Pence and the Army Secretary are the ones who sign off on sending the Guard in (not Trump or Miller)
- today, now that Trump has realized it's definitely failed, he offers a semi-concession

[Valrifell]

Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.

18? You mean 16, don't you? When are Warnock and Ossoff supposed to be sworn in?

I know Perdue's seat is still (legally) empty and I'm pretty sure Loeffler is still in until the 20th.

[Rusozak]

So what we know so far:

- on the 4th and 5th, DoD sabotages the readiness of the DC National Guard
- on the 6th, Trump goes to the rally and basically incites them to storm the building
- Capitol Police are woefully (perhaps even suspiciously) unprepared and are then overwhelmed
- reinforcements are first nowhere to be found and then rejected or otherwise blocked
- eventually Pence and the Army Secretary are the ones who sign off on sending the Guard in (not Trump or Miller)
- today, now that Trump has realized it's definitely failed, he offers a semi-concession

Totally not a failed coup. Nope.

[Kowani]

The dead Capitol Police Officer was apparently hit in the head with a fire extinguisher

[Bombadil]

It did. He just knows that invoking the 25th means more and possibly successful attempts on his life.

Then the only hope is a bunch of Republican congressmen who will now agree to impeachment. I hope NSGers with Republican reps are overloading their phones and emaIls with calls to pressure them.

I don't know if Trumpers are just being quiet at the moment but the comments under FOX news articles are pretty overwhelmingly stating this was an awful event and Trump should be held accountable, as should his enablers.

[Cedoria]

So what we know so far:

- on the 4th and 5th, DoD sabotages the readiness of the DC National Guard
- on the 6th, Trump goes to the rally and basically incites them to storm the building
- Capitol Police are woefully (perhaps even suspiciously) unprepared and are then overwhelmed
- reinforcements are first nowhere to be found and then rejected or otherwise blocked
- eventually Pence and the Army Secretary are the ones who sign off on sending the Guard in (not Trump or Miller)
- today, now that Trump has realized it's definitely failed, he offers a semi-concession

So definitely pre-meditated then. No way you deliberately sabotage the readiness of the DC National Guard unless you know you're going to be inciting an attack.

Hope prosecutors are collecting this stuff for evidence in court.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Conservative journalists who've closely covered Antifa violence say leftist militants were not behind Capitol siege

This is a complete conspiracy theory so stop spreading it, conservatives

[Senkaku]

Do you really think we're "now all for law and order," in the same sense you use the term? I'm not happy that people were brutalized by the police as they cleared the building. I'm not pleased that people died. My preference is the same as it was before: that police do their jobs, and apply the correct amount of force in doing so, rather than under or over-serving people depending on their own personal preferences and political leanings.

May have been a bad choice of wording, but the people outraged over this are by and large the same type cheering on CHAZ

What people? Who are you talking about? As far as I can tell you're just pulling shit out of your ass and desperately trying to smear anyone within reach, regardless of their actual publicly professed beliefs, to avoid coming to the awful realization that you have been hoodwinked by a fascist movement made up of putschists, grifters, and criminals of every sort that literally attempted to drown American democracy in the bathtub yesterday.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Some are mad, some are proud of it, some are depressed, and some think it's anti-fascists. I wonder what they'll decide to stick to.

Don't make the mistake of considering them a single mind. One of the great fallacies of tribal thinking is to lump the other into a collective. "We" are vibrant individuals, "they" are a faceless enemy mob. That kind of dehumanization is poison.

I agree that’s what results in events like CHAZ or what happened on Capitol Hill

[San Lumen]

Conservative journalists who've closely covered Antifa violence say leftist militants were not behind Capitol siege

This is a complete conspiracy theory so stop spreading it, conservatives

try telling some members of Congress that.

[Neanderthaland]

Really? This dude just tried to have Pence basically murdered and he still won't stand up.

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?

Just disappointed.

[Sanghyeok]

So what we know so far:

- on the 4th and 5th, DoD sabotages the readiness of the DC National Guard
- on the 6th, Trump goes to the rally and basically incites them to storm the building
- Capitol Police are woefully (perhaps even suspiciously) unprepared and are then overwhelmed
- reinforcements are first nowhere to be found and then rejected or otherwise blocked
- eventually Pence and the Army Secretary are the ones who sign off on sending the Guard in (not Trump or Miller)
- today, now that Trump has realized it's definitely failed, he offers a semi-concession

Totally not a failed coup. Nope.

I admit my judgement yesterday was incorrect when I claimed this wasn't a coup.

[Nakena]

Just saw the video of Trump conceding.

That was too little and too late for his opponents who will hate him regardless. Not after what happened yesterday. And too much giving him for his supporters who stormed the capitol for him. He just threw them to the wolves. Only moderate MAGA supporters will keep up with him. He probably lost the most hardcore and dedicated parts of his base.

He moved himself into political no-man's land with that move.

Nobody is going to buy that.

He's finally finished.

[Kexholm Karelia]

May have been a bad choice of wording, but the people outraged over this are by and large the same type cheering on CHAZ

What people? Who are you talking about? As far as I can tell you're just pulling shit out of your ass and desperately trying to smear anyone within reach, regardless of their actual publicly professed beliefs, to avoid coming to the awful realization that you have been hoodwinked by a fascist movement made up of putschists, grifters, and criminals of every sort that literally attempted to drown American democracy in the bathtub yesterday.

Those represent a minority of the conservative movement just like how others say antifa is a minority of the leftist movement

[Sanghyeok]

Don't make the mistake of considering them a single mind. One of the great fallacies of tribal thinking is to lump the other into a collective. "We" are vibrant individuals, "they" are a faceless enemy mob. That kind of dehumanization is poison.

I agree that’s what results in events like CHAZ or what happened on Capitol Hill

Because those are completely equivalent.

[San Lumen]

Just saw the video of Trump conceding.

That was too little and too late for his opponents who will hate him regardless. Not after what happened yesterday. And too much giving him for his supporters who stormed the capitol for him. He just threw them to the wolves. Only moderate MAGA supporters will keep up with him. He probably lost the most hardcore and dedicated parts of his base.

He moved himself into political no-man's land with that move.

Nobody is going to buy that.

He's finally finished.

I hope your right.

[Valrifell]

Just saw the video of Trump conceding.

That was too little and too late for his opponents who will hate him regardless. Not after what happened yesterday. And too much giving him for his supporters who stormed the capitol for him. He just threw them to the wolves. Only moderate MAGA supporters will keep up with him. He probably lost the most hardcore and dedicated parts of his base.

He moved himself into political no-man's land with that move.

Nobody is going to buy that.

He's finally finished.

We did it Reddit.

[Nakena]

Just saw the video of Trump conceding.

That was too little and too late for his opponents who will hate him regardless. Not after what happened yesterday. And too much giving him for his supporters who stormed the capitol for him. He just threw them to the wolves. Only moderate MAGA supporters will keep up with him. He probably lost the most hardcore and dedicated parts of his base.

He moved himself into political no-man's land with that move.

Nobody is going to buy that.

He's finally finished.

We did it Reddit.

There was/is literally a reddit dedicated to that meme. Trump is finished. Now for real.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Really? This dude just tried to have Pence basically murdered and he still won't stand up.

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?

Mike Pence clearly has principles, he’s been a lifelong pro life pro gun conservative and he doesn’t apologize to the woke SJW mob for it unlike Mitt Romney