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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:03 pm

Senkaku wrote:

WaPo paywall-- I'm assuming his new political appointees assisted, or was this the Joint Chiefs pre-emptively getting worried the DC Guard could defect?

"The Pentagon placed significant restrictions on the D.C. Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests this week, putting the District’s military force in a back-seat role ahead of events that resulted in an insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.


In memos issued on Jan. 4 and 5, the Pentagon prohibited the District’s guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary’s explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders.

The D.C. Guard was also told it would be allowed to deploy a Quick Reaction Force only as a measure of last resort, the officials said.

The need for higher-level approval appeared to have slowed the military response when the Capitol Police, the law enforcement force that reports to Congress and protects the House and the Senate, requested backup from 200 troops during a call with top Pentagon officials early Wednesday afternoon, according to officials familiar with the call.

The Capitol Police hadn’t asked for Guard backup in anticipation of the protests, which President Trump supported to stop congressional certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Guard units arrived roughly 2.5 hours after the chief of the Capitol Police made the emergency request, even though a Quick Reaction Force had been put on standby outside the city limits, one of the officials said, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations.

[As Trump backers descend on capital, military hopes to avoid political fray]
The Defense Department was able to restrict the D.C. Guard because the military force answers to the president rather than the mayor, as the District is not a state. The president’s power over the D.C. Guard is typically delegated to the defense secretary, then the Army secretary, who makes command decisions.

Officials said the restrictions on the D.C. Guard were put in place in part because city and Pentagon leadership didn’t want a large military presence after Trump ordered a mass military response to racial justice protests in the nation’s capital this summer, prompting a public outcry when military helicopters flew low over protesters, surveillance assets hovered above the city and residents were left with a sense that the District was being occupied or was under siege.

A U.S. defense official said the military always issues memos outlining the parameters of any mission. The restrictions added ahead of Wednesday’s events made sense, the official said, given that D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser requested the deployment of only a small contingent of some 340 guardsmen, primarily to control traffic and monitor metro stations.


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“All commanders have left and right limits,” the official said. “There is no such thing as carte blanche.”

The official said that when the mission changed on Wednesday afternoon, the Pentagon provided more forces than were requested, bringing in Guard units from outside states and loosening the restrictions.

But the initial restrictions and the unique command structure of the D.C. Guard may have made it more difficult for authorities to quickly send the guardsmen to aid Capitol Police.

The D.C. Guard is housed in the Armory about 10 minutes’ drive from the Capitol.

The delay in response prompted panicked lawmakers to call high-up officials at the Pentagon and in nearby states asking for military force to be sent to Capitol Hill. The governors of Maryland and Virginia expressed concern Wednesday about what they described as a delay in reaction by the Defense Department.

On Thursday, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said he received a call from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), who said he was in a secure location with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer.

“I was actually on the phone with Leader Hoyer who was pleading with us to send the guard,” Hogan said. “He was yelling across the room to Schumer and they were back and forth saying we do have the authorization and I’m saying, ‘I’m telling you we do not have the authorization.’ ”

Hogan said Maj. Gen. Timothy Gowen, the Adjutant General of the Maryland National Guard, was repeatedly rebuffed by the Pentagon.

“The General … kept running it up the flagpole, and we don’t have authorization,” he said.

Ninety minutes later, Hogan said, he received a call “out of the blue, not from the Secretary of Defense, not through what would be normal channels,” but from Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy, who asked if the Maryland guardsmen could “come as soon as possible.”

“It was like, yea, we’re waiting, we’re ready,” said Hogan, who had already sent 200 State Police troopers at Bowser’s request.

There were also suggestions that city authorities were frustrated with a holdup at the Pentagon. Clark Mercer, chief of staff to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam (D), said he received a call from his counterpart in Bowser’s office, who suggested the Defense Department wasn’t moving fast enough and asked for Virginia to send in its own state Guard — an extraordinary request that laid bare the difficulty Bowser faced in having to rely on federal officials at the Pentagon answerable to the president to command the District’s military force.

Virginia sent in its Guard and state troopers after Northam received a panicked call from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi asking for help.

Once the Pentagon signed off, the Guard mounted a vast response.

“Going through that mission analysis process, we were able to do an analysis and provide more than what they asked for,” the defense official said. “No one asked us to activate the entire guard. Those are decisions we made on our own by taking a pause and conducting another analysis.”

It is unclear what role if any Trump played in the decisions regarding the D.C. Guard, which is overseen by his Pentagon subordinates.

Thousands of additional National Guard forces were moving into the area on Thursday, as their commander said authorities had not imagined “in their wildest dreams” that supporters of President Trump could storm the seat of American democracy.

McCarthy, who functions as de facto commander of the Washington D.C. National Guard, said 6,200 troops would be positioned in and around the city by the weekend, including Guard forces from Pennsylvania, New York and other Mid-Atlantic states.

“ With respect to the posture leading in the way, we receive our intelligence from law enforcement agencies,” he said at a news briefing alongside Bowser.

McCarthy said officials approached their preparations for Wednesday assuming it would be similar to other recent protests and didn’t in their “wildest imagination” envision rioters breaching Capitol grounds.

Ahead of Wednesday’s events, far-right forums on digital platforms including Telegram, Parler and thedonald.win made reference to violence and urged people to come armed to the planned protest seeking to overturn the results of the Nov. 3 election, which Trump lost to President-elect Joe Biden.

The chaotic and violent outcome, which claimed four lives including a rioter who was shot by U.S. Capitol Police, came shortly after Trump egged on supporters in an address outside the White House, falsely insisting the election was fraudulent and urging the crowd to fight to keep him in office.

The turmoil follows a divisive year leading up to the election, the coronavirus pandemic, and civil unrest after the killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, by Minneapolis police in May.

The protests triggered by Floyd’s death and race-related violence appeared to have prompted city and Pentagon official to opt for a muted response that kept military personnel far from protesters and let local and Capitol police take the lead. The Pentagon came under severe criticism in June, after National Guard forces were on hand when unarmed protesters were forcibly cleared from an area near the White House and front-line troops were positioned outside of Washington.

Local officials complained about a delay in granting their request for additional National Guard help after rioters swarmed the Capitol. While McCarthy said Wednesday that some confusion about the request led to a delay of less than an hour, Bowser on Thursday asked for the D.C. Guard to be put under her control rather than that of the federal government.

McCarthy said all available D.C. Guard troops had been mobilized and that at least 850 would be at the Capitol by midday, where they would help erect a 7-foot “non-scalable” fence around the building’s exterior.

“These personnel and these security measures will be in place for no less than the next 30 days,” he said.

Thursday afternoon, 24 hours after the Capitol breach, acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller issued a statement calling the violence “reprehensible and contrary to the tenets of the United States Constitution.”

“Our Republic may have been disrupted yesterday, but the resolve of our legislators to conduct the people’s business did not waver. Due to their efforts, supported by local and federal law enforcement and the National Guard, the attempts of those who tried to stop our government from functioning failed,” Miller said.

“I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office, and will execute the time-honored peaceful transition of power to President-elect Biden on January 20.”
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Postby Andsed » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:03 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Andsed wrote:His last impeachment had slim chances due to him still having the loyalty of the Republican party. Thats not a certainty for him any more. Like this is Donald Trump were talking about. Do you really think he just saw the light of all of a sudden?

Yes, I actually think he did. Otherwise, he would have threatened Republicans before admitting that he was wrong.

He literally released a statement during the riots still talking about fraud. He is bullshitting plain and simple.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:03 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:And now he has 13 days to destroy the evidence. I can practically hear the buzz of the shredders from here.


Nah they need to narrow it down to 0 days and throw his ass out.

Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:05 pm

Godular wrote:
Cedoria wrote:You'd have to be pointing it at HIS head before he agreed.


Even then, he'd still try to twist it to some self-serving nonsense.

He's doing that right now. Still insisting this coup was anything other than at his instigation and at his order, and still insisting that people who were upset at having lost the election had any legitimacy to do any of that. None of which is true.

It's just weasal words because he's worried Republicans are mad enough they might actually consent to removing him before the 20th.
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:05 pm

Some are mad, some are proud of it, some are depressed, and some think it's anti-fascists. I wonder what they'll decide to stick to.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:06 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nah they need to narrow it down to 0 days and throw his ass out.

Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.


Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:06 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.


Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.

That would be nice.

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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:07 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.


Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.

I hope you're right, but some of these people are so slimy they'll take the slightest opportunity to backpedal even after he threatened them with a violent mob.

Can you see Cruz or Graham deciding to be anything other than raging sychophants? I can't.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:07 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Godular wrote:
Even then, he'd still try to twist it to some self-serving nonsense.

He's doing that right now. Still insisting this coup was anything other than at his instigation and at his order, and still insisting that people who were upset at having lost the election had any legitimacy to do any of that. None of which is true.

It's just weasal words because he's worried Republicans are mad enough they might actually consent to removing him before the 20th.


I think it's no coincidence Pence announced a few hours earlier he wouldn't invoke the 25th, I'd guess that was the deal. Frankly I'm fine with it because getting away with just the 25th is not what I want to see, I want to see him impeached and then face charges.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:08 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.


Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.


Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:08 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Cedoria wrote:He's doing that right now. Still insisting this coup was anything other than at his instigation and at his order, and still insisting that people who were upset at having lost the election had any legitimacy to do any of that. None of which is true.

It's just weasal words because he's worried Republicans are mad enough they might actually consent to removing him before the 20th.


I think it's no coincidence Pence announced a few hours earlier he wouldn't invoke the 25th, I'd guess that was the deal. Frankly I'm fine with it because getting away with just the 25th is not what I want to see, I want to see him impeached and then face charges.

I think Republicans will use his speech today as an excuse to vote against impeachment. Some crap about 'needing to heal the nation'.

He'll pull a Nixon and cop a plea. You watch.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
In memos issued on Jan. 4 and 5, the Pentagon prohibited the District’s guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary’s explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders.

The D.C. Guard was also told it would be allowed to deploy a Quick Reaction Force only as a measure of last resort, the officials said.

The need for higher-level approval appeared to have slowed the military response when the Capitol Police, the law enforcement force that reports to Congress and protects the House and the Senate, requested backup from 200 troops during a call with top Pentagon officials early Wednesday afternoon, according to officials familiar with the call.

The Capitol Police hadn’t asked for Guard backup in anticipation of the protests, which President Trump supported to stop congressional certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Guard units arrived roughly 2.5 hours after the chief of the Capitol Police made the emergency request, even though a Quick Reaction Force had been put on standby outside the city limits, one of the officials said, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations.
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On Thursday, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said he received a call from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), who said he was in a secure location with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer.

“I was actually on the phone with Leader Hoyer who was pleading with us to send the guard,” Hogan said. “He was yelling across the room to Schumer and they were back and forth saying we do have the authorization and I’m saying, ‘I’m telling you we do not have the authorization.’ ”

Hogan said Maj. Gen. Timothy Gowen, the Adjutant General of the Maryland National Guard, was repeatedly rebuffed by the Pentagon.

“The General … kept running it up the flagpole, and we don’t have authorization,” he said.

Ninety minutes later, Hogan said, he received a call “out of the blue, not from the Secretary of Defense, not through what would be normal channels,” but from Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy, who asked if the Maryland guardsmen could “come as soon as possible.”

“It was like, yea, we’re waiting, we’re ready,” said Hogan, who had already sent 200 State Police troopers at Bowser’s request.

There were also suggestions that city authorities were frustrated with a holdup at the Pentagon. Clark Mercer, chief of staff to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam (D), said he received a call from his counterpart in Bowser’s office, who suggested the Defense Department wasn’t moving fast enough and asked for Virginia to send in its own state Guard — an extraordinary request that laid bare the difficulty Bowser faced in having to rely on federal officials at the Pentagon answerable to the president to command the District’s military force.

Virginia sent in its Guard and state troopers after Northam received a panicked call from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi asking for help.


Fucking of course. Miller and Trump made sure they wouldn't be ready and then impeded the reaction until McCarthy (and perhaps Pence?) stepped in. The Jan. 4/5 thing is fucking damning too, they were planning this at least a few days in advance.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Which we all know is not going to happen, even if he'd had his people crucify AOC on the Washington Monument.


Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.

Pence has already said he's not on board with that. Chao resigned rather than have to make that choice, I expect we'll see more of that soon. No one actually wants to stand up to him in a way that permanently damages their standing with his base. Cruz is on Twitter arguing with AOC.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.


Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.

Since at least a couple of them are shivers looking for a spine to run up, good luck with that.
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I think it's no coincidence Pence announced a few hours earlier he wouldn't invoke the 25th, I'd guess that was the deal. Frankly I'm fine with it because getting away with just the 25th is not what I want to see, I want to see him impeached and then face charges.

I think Republicans will use his speech today as an excuse to vote against impeachment. Some crap about 'needing to heal the nation'.

He'll pull a Nixon and cop a plea. You watch.


Better whatever sentence he gets here than whatever he'd get in Iran, though I'm kiiinda hoping for the latter.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Cedoria wrote:I think Republicans will use his speech today as an excuse to vote against impeachment. Some crap about 'needing to heal the nation'.

He'll pull a Nixon and cop a plea. You watch.


Better whatever sentence he gets here than whatever he'd get in Iran.

Actually, I'd be quite fine with him being handed over to the Iranians if nothing else sticks.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.


Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.


Really? This dude just tried to have Pence basically murdered and he still won't stand up.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.


Really? This dude just tried to have Pence basically murdered and he still won't stand up.

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nah, many Republicans are now talking about 25thing him. This was the breaking point.

I think he's gonna be removed from office.


Pence has already said no 25th.

It's up to 18 Republicans to grow a spine.


18? You mean 16, don't you? When are Warnock and Ossoff supposed to be sworn in?
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:10 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Cedoria wrote:I think Republicans will use his speech today as an excuse to vote against impeachment. Some crap about 'needing to heal the nation'.

He'll pull a Nixon and cop a plea. You watch.


Better whatever sentence he gets here than whatever he'd get in Iran, though I'm kiiinda hoping for the latter.


Trump getting extradited to the Middle East will make my year.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:11 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Cordel One wrote:
Better whatever sentence he gets here than whatever he'd get in Iran, though I'm kiiinda hoping for the latter.


Trump getting extradited to the Middle East will make my year.


Itll make my life lol.
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:11 pm

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Cordel One wrote:
Better whatever sentence he gets here than whatever he'd get in Iran.

Actually, I'd be quite fine with him being handed over to the Iranians if nothing else sticks.

To be perfectly honest I kinda want to see it happen.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:11 pm

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Really? This dude just tried to have Pence basically murdered and he still won't stand up.

You're surprised Mike Pence has no principles?


No but I am surprised the attempt on his life didn't make him say "that's it, I've had enough."
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:12 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Actually, I'd be quite fine with him being handed over to the Iranians if nothing else sticks.

To be perfectly honest I kinda want to see it happen.


Totally wanna see it.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:12 pm

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Kexholm Karelia wrote:I couldn’t care less what they demand, many of the actions taken by BLM and antifa groups are also sedition, including occupying an entire neighborhood and preventing law enforcement from getting in, leading to at least one murder that went unaddressed and allegedly two more. The same people screaming ACAB are now all for law and order, which takes me to the natural conclusion that the BLM ACAB crowd doesn’t care if anything happens to the other side, exposing many people’s true colors

Do you really think we're "now all for law and order," in the same sense you use the term? I'm not happy that people were brutalized by the police as they cleared the building. I'm not pleased that people died. My preference is the same as it was before: that police do their jobs, and apply the correct amount of force in doing so, rather than under or over-serving people depending on their own personal preferences and political leanings.

May have been a bad choice of wording, but the people outraged over this are by and large the same type cheering on CHAZ
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orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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