American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Geneviev]

CNN reports GOP sources close to White House say Trump “unstable, ranting and raving” and “bent on destruction in his final days.”

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

Is that really him? If it is, that's good.

[Irona]

What did he do?

ethics violations related to evading limits on $100,000 in speaking fees and using his own condo in Minneapolis to collect $40,000 in travel reimbursements.

Bad... but not approaching Cruz

[San Lumen]

Is anyone else seeing this?
Does he actually make it through a whole 2 minutes, managing to not only properly condemn the violence this time, but also not say once that there was election fraud, in fact suggesting he's come to accept there wasn't?
He does still lie though, because of course. Most people know it wasn't him but Pence who called the National Guard.

was this broadcast on tv?

[-Ra-]

Which is why I said each thing on its own wouldn't seem to be terribly conclusive, yes.

No, it's why your point has absolutely no merit to it lol. None of your points are conclusive to any degree or respect, especially since the situation is just fresh.

I suppose inside the Capitol is "a more secure location."

They were not moving them into the Capitol building. What are you talking about? The rioters backed the police into the Capitol doors.

If there were so few people available that they couldn't even hold the building while evacuating people, I will refer you back to point one.

Your point one has no standing, so I don't know what you are trying to say here.

Firing rubber bullets and gas canisters directly into crowds seemed to be perfectly acceptable conduct this summer against peaceful protesters in streets thousands of miles from DC, so I guess I expected they'd almost certainly therefore be trotted out against rioters and putschists inside of the seat of the nation's government.

Capitol police were not being trotted out thousands of miles from DC. Not only did the police fire gas canisters into the crowds on many occassions, they literally shot into the crowd at one time.

"I wish for conservatives having a fucking come-to-Jesus moment on de-escalation as a core principle of policing."

That's not what de-escalation is, but go off I guess.

*monkey's paw curls*

No such evidence has been offered publicly, and is also quite likely to be destroyed before it can come to light.

Baseless speculation is baseless.

Yes. The department is comprised of individuals; their actions are reflective of its culture and institutional priorities. On its own, it wouldn't be enough to make me seriously think the organization as a whole was involved. Taken together with-- well, if you've read this far it'll sound like a broken record at this point.

The actions of one individual posing for a photo is not reflective of the department. I would say the brave men and women who spared with the rioters are more reflective of the department, merely because there were more of them. And your taken together point is bullshit again, since none of the individual pieces you have provided prove anything. You are basically saying that 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = something other than 0.

It is evidence of incompetence so staggering that it beggars belief. Hence why I think a simpler explanation for all of these things coincidentally occurring at the same time is that there was just some collusion.

I do not think that this level of incompetence suggests collusion. You are suggesting one thing and then jumping to a disconnected conclusion. Incompetence suggests incompetence, not collusion. You are no better than internet conspiracy crackpots stringing events together to build some version of reality that suits your pre-conceived political leanings with absolutely no evidence to back you up.

With the facts that are currently publicly available, it certainly seems like the simplest and most likely explanation.

It does not. No major news outlet or professional has suggested that there was collusion between the police, Trump or the rioters. That is only you and maybe Twitter doing that. Though I suppose the fact that you don't actually seem to pay attention to the events as they come in suggests why you may think that your conclusions are actually logical.

[Kowani]

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It does not. No major news outlet or professional has suggested that there was collusion between the police, Trump or the rioters. That is only you and maybe Twitter doing that. Though I suppose the fact that you don't actually seem to pay attention to the events as they come in suggests why you may think that your conclusions are actually logical.

Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

[Istoreya]

CNN reports GOP sources close to White House say Trump “unstable, ranting and raving” and “bent on destruction in his final days.”

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

I'm going to get you. This is the second time you've beaten me to sharing a goddamn link.

Is anyone else seeing this?
Does he actually make it through a whole 2 minutes, managing to not only properly condemn the violence this time, but also not say once that there was election fraud, in fact suggesting he's come to accept there wasn't?
He does still lie though, because of course. Most people know it wasn't him but Pence who called the National Guard.

was this broadcast on tv?

If it was, I didn't see it. Not a tv person, really.

[Bombadil]

CNN reports GOP sources close to White House say Trump “unstable, ranting and raving” and “bent on destruction in his final days.”

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

Wow.. imagine he'd been like that throughout his presidency.. though he does sneak in a lie within the first 20s given Pence ordered up the National Guard not Trump.. but anyhoo..

[-Ra-]

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It does not. No major news outlet or professional has suggested that there was collusion between the police, Trump or the rioters. That is only you and maybe Twitter doing that. Though I suppose the fact that you don't actually seem to pay attention to the events as they come in suggests why you may think that your conclusions are actually logical.

Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

Outside governments do not have intelligence into law enforcement and they have offered no evidence to support their claim. This is just speculation on their part.

[Kowani]

Is anyone else seeing this?
Does he actually make it through a whole 2 minutes, managing to not only properly condemn the violence this time, but also not say once that there was election fraud, in fact suggesting he's come to accept there wasn't?
He does still lie though, because of course. Most people know it wasn't him but Pence who called the National Guard.

was this broadcast on tv?

this was just released on his twitter

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

I'm going to get you. This is the second time you've beaten me to sharing a goddamn link.

you've got a long way to go, but I welcome the challenge

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

Is that really him? If it is, that's good.

it is indeed

[Andsed]

CNN reports GOP sources close to White House say Trump “unstable, ranting and raving” and “bent on destruction in his final days.”

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

He earns no points for this tbh. It should not have taken him this long to concede the election. This is doing the bare minimum months after he was supposed to do it.

[San Lumen]

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

I'm going to get you. This is the second time you've beaten me to sharing a goddamn link.

was this broadcast on tv?

If it was, I didn't see it. Not a tv person, really.

it should have been broadcast if it was not. Sure sounded like a concession speech to me.

[Irona]

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

He earns no points for this tbh. It should not have taken him this long to concede the election. This is doing the bare minimum months after he was supposed to do it.

He's probably been told by the Republican leadership that they'll impeach him unless he does this

[Geneviev]

Is that really him? If it is, that's good.

it is indeed

Incredible. I don't know how he did that, unless I was wrong about him.

[Bombadil]

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

He earns no points for this tbh. It should not have taken him this long to concede the election. This is doing the bare minimum months after he was supposed to do it.

No, he is still guilty for inciting a riot, an attempted coup and has the blood of people who died on his hands.. showing remorse after the fact does not in anyway excuse the act.

I almost imagine someone behind the camera with a gun to Ivanka's head going 'read it Donald, read it or face the consequences..'

[Kowani]

And in the oddest contradiction, Trump just released a statement where he sounds like a rational human being and concedes

He earns no points for this tbh. It should not have taken him this long to concede the election. This is doing the bare minimum months after he was supposed to do it.

oh yeah absolutely

it is indeed

Incredible. I don't know how he did that, unless I was wrong about him.

no
this is transparently for his own self benefit

[Omniabstracta]

it is indeed

Incredible. I don't know how he did that, unless I was wrong about him.

He is a narcissist who has realized that the image he was cultivating to his supporters is not the one accepted by most Americans, and who had realized that his attempts to cling to power at any cost have failed. Like any narcissist, he’s desperately trying to save any face he can when all other options are exhausted.

[Istoreya]

It's become a case of "Well, seizing power didn't work, better get on my knees and grovel"

[Kexholm Karelia]

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There will likely be an investigation into this very soon, either undertaken by the WH after Biden comes or the city government, until then I would avoid jumping to conclusions or spreading conspiracy theories

[Bombadil]

It's become a case of "Well, seizing power didn't work, better get on my knees and grovel"

I'm not sure this was his decision, I feel some deal was made to get him to say this.

[San Lumen]

The damage is done. His image isn't going to change. I don;'t see him pulling a Cleveland in 2024.

[Xmara]

The damage is done. His image isn't going to change. I don;'t see him pulling a Cleveland in 2024.

It would be the biggest mistake the US could possibly make

[Geneviev]

Incredible. I don't know how he did that, unless I was wrong about him.

no
this is transparently for his own self benefit

If that were the case, he would have done it months ago.

[San Lumen]

The damage is done. His image isn't going to change. I don;'t see him pulling a Cleveland in 2024.

It would be the biggest mistake the US could possibly make

I dont see it happening.

[Valrifell]

The damage is done. His image isn't going to change. I don;'t see him pulling a Cleveland in 2024.

Him pulling a Cleveland was always unlikely since Clevelend won the popular vote all three times he ran whereas Trump lost the popular vote twice.

It'd be really weird if someone rejected by most Americans won twice.

[Kowani]