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Cordel One
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Founded: Aug 06, 2020
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wouldn't call it a fascist coup, either. I have been convinced it was an attempted coup, though, so points to Kowani and Rojava.

Also, balkanize the US? Do you have anywhere else to store your straw? I know shaping it into men saves some space, but you're clogging up the room and messing up my carpet.

I am not strawmaning, i am just suggesting an idea. Let us face it you dont like us, just like we dont you. Maybe the best thing is to split a country. Make an divorse.

I'm whiter than mayonnaise and I don't like you, don't act like all white people are behind you because our skin looks the same.
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Freiheit Reich
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Ex-Nation

Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

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Freiheit Reich wrote:
Prison rape happens a lot. I would much rather be caned than raped. To me, being raped is much crueler than being caned.

Prison rape in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_ra ... ted_States

Inside the shadowy, unspoken world of prison rape (What is truly sick is that many guards also abuse prisoners.)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/prison-rape- ... oken-world

PRISONERS' VOICES

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How Common is Prison Rape?

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Most Americans have your attitude. They think prisoners deserve to be attacked in prison because they are 'scum.' I had a cousin go to prison for several years for a robbery. His action was wrong, he deserved to be punished (although his sentence was too harsh), but I don't think he would deserve to be raped and beaten (most prisoners don't deserve that). I don't think he is a pieces of scum and neither are most prisoners. I think he is someone that did a dumb action and deserves another chance upon release. Stealing a car, robbing a bank, or stealing a piece of pizza does not automatically make you 'scum' deserving of torture. Only a few prisoners are truly 'scum' and even those ones should not be tortured by fellow prisoners.
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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wouldn't call it a fascist coup, either. I have been convinced it was an attempted coup, though, so points to Kowani and Rojava.

Also, balkanize the US? Do you have anywhere else to store your straw? I know shaping it into men saves some space, but you're clogging up the room and messing up my carpet.

I am not strawmaning, i am just suggesting an idea. Let us face it you dont like us, just like we dont you. Maybe the best thing is to split a country. Make an divorse.


Who is "us" and who is "you", exactly?
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Omniabstracta
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Omniabstracta » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

Esalia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:And throwing out every single alt right line they can.


And some weird comment about the Irish, for some reason.

Clearly, it’s because Biden is a shill for the IRA, and this is all a grand plot to hurt British-American relations.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

Esalia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:And throwing out every single alt right line they can.


And some weird comment about the Irish, for some reason.
Oh oh oh oh there was another user on here, another right-winger who did the exact same thing in two other threads last year to me when i called them out on their bullshit

I need to find their name
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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:"Founded: Jan 16, 2021" lol

Maybe we should take bets on he really is.

Maybe it's WLO again.
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I hold irish citizenship by the law of two countries so yeah actually. Great deflection tho you do daddy trump proud. Im sure he will give you a little wave at the next rally.

I am not really a fan of Trump though. The issue is not revolving around him. The issue is that the democratic institutions have failed. If SCOTUS at least look up the case, and even concluded that the elections were not rigged than that would be fine.

Wihh all due respect, are not irishman english serfs?

note: There were 65 lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign, in several different states, in both state and federal court, not counting appeals.
Trump and his allies lost 64 of them
a grand number of those were lost on the facts
stop fucking lying
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Andsed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I hold irish citizenship by the law of two countries so yeah actually. Great deflection tho you do daddy trump proud. Im sure he will give you a little wave at the next rally.

I am not really a fan of Trump though. The issue is not revolving around him. The issue is that the democratic institutions have failed. If SCOTUS at least look up the case, and even concluded that the elections were not rigged than that would be fine.

Wihh all due respect, are not irishman english serfs?

Quite the opposite actually. Democratic institutions have actually succeeded quite well. They have succeeded in withstanding Trumps onslaught on trying to subvert them with his lies of election fraud and sending a mob to storm the capitol. And there is no need for SCOTUS to get involved with 60+ something courts(including Trump appointed judges) have dismissed his cases due to his total lack of evidence.
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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm

Atheris wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Maybe we should take bets on he really is.

Maybe it's WLO again.

I have a hunch it's someone, but this person doesn't write like WLO. I could be wrong, though.
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Northern Socialist Council Republics
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Founded: Dec 13, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ahh you think you're clever.

Northern Ireland is ruled by a feudal aristocracy in the same way that Amsterdam is covered in no-go zones.

That is to say, everyone knows Western Europe is more left-leaning than the US, so to discredit progressive politics it makes a lot of sense to discredit Western Europe, and the people who make these kinds of claims know that their target audience is neither knowledgeable about the state of European affairs nor are intellectually inclined towards honest fact-checking.
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:51 pm

Kowani wrote:
Svehrvatska wrote:I am not really a fan of Trump though. The issue is not revolving around him. The issue is that the democratic institutions have failed. If SCOTUS at least look up the case, and even concluded that the elections were not rigged than that would be fine.

Wihh all due respect, are not irishman english serfs?

note: There were 65 lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign, in several different states, in both state and federal court, not counting appeals.
Trump and his allies lost 64 of them
a grand number of those were lost on the facts
stop fucking lying

The judges were in on the conspiracy obviously.

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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Founded: Aug 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:52 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Atheris wrote:Maybe it's WLO again.

I have a hunch it's someone, but this person doesn't write like WLO.


A good LARPer knows how to disguise their grammar and mannerisms to appear like a different person.
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Freiheit Reich
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:52 pm

Heloin wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
If you think minimum wage should be $15, why not raise it to $20 or $25 an hour instead? It sounds nice raising the minimum wage until it just makes people with salaries of $40,000 a year the new underclass.

Better to create a national health care system instead of raising the minimum wage which better protects poor people from inflation.

You act like a living wage and universal healthcare are mutually exclusive.


They seem to be in the USA. US Politicians are in bed with health care executives and will never create a useful national health care system until likely several years after I am dead. I have given up on this idea (it is a nice dream but it will never happen just like the USA will still be the world police and still have the Patriot Act until after I am dead).
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Kiu Ghesik
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:53 pm

Atheris wrote:
The issue is that the democratic institutions have failed. If SCOTUS at least look up the case, and even concluded that the elections were not rigged than that would be fine.

I believe it has been, though I could be wrong.

No, it wasn't- but the court said it would have rejected the case regardless. 7-2 the court refused to hear it based on how absurd the claims presented were and the two dissenters both said they would've voted no in a theoretical vote but believed it was the court's obligation to hear even the stupid, absurd cases, iirc. The others just didn't want to waste the court's time.
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:53 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:53 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I have a hunch it's someone, but this person doesn't write like WLO.


A good LARPer knows how to disguise their grammar and mannerisms to appear like a different person.

Was West Leas Oros good?

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The Huskar Social Union
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Founded: Apr 04, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:53 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Atheris wrote:Maybe it's WLO again.

I have a hunch it's someone, but this person doesn't write like WLO. I could be wrong, though.

United Hemand Insia was the poster i was thinking of with the random irish comment, but they are still active.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:54 pm

Irish Nationalist from Belfast / Leftwing / Atheist / Alliance Party voter
"I never thought in terms of being a leader, i thought very simply in terms of helping people" - John Hume 1937 - 2020



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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:54 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
A good LARPer knows how to disguise their grammar and mannerisms to appear like a different person.

Was West Leas Oros good?


I wouldn't know. Barely knew the guy, much less his alter-ego.

Anyway let's stay on topic, shall we?
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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:54 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Heloin wrote:You act like a living wage and universal healthcare are mutually exclusive.


They seem to be in the USA. US Politicians are in bed with health care executives and will never create a useful national health care system until likely several years after I am dead. I have given up on this idea (it is a nice dream but it will never happen just like the USA will still be the world police and still have the Patriot Act until after I am dead).

Ok, thanks for your doom and gloom. That doesn't have anything to do with why you are apparently against raising the minimum wage.

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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:54 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:"Founded: Jan 16, 2021" lol

Maybe we should take bets on he really is.

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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:55 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
A good LARPer knows how to disguise their grammar and mannerisms to appear like a different person.

Was West Leas Oros good?

Had a few debates with Magelron. Yeah. I didn't even know it was him until I saw the post.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:55 pm


I mean if parker can actually moderate their content I'm not apposed to letting it back, not like it would be a good haven for extremist at that point.
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Esalia
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Postby Esalia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:56 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Esalia wrote:
And some weird comment about the Irish, for some reason.
Oh oh oh oh there was another user on here, another right-winger who did the exact same thing in two other threads last year to me when i called them out on their bullshit

I need to find their name


What is it with right-wingers and comments about you being Irish?
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:56 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:This is 1984

I mean if parker can actually moderate their content I'm not apposed to letting it back, not like it would be a good haven for extremist at that point.

It will just be a vicious cycle where they go to another forum/social media site and it continues.
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