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Vilhelumea
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Postby Vilhelumea » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Yes, I remember Boden saying that in his winning speech. Fact is that almost all democrats in the House, Senate and the president himself is white old men. Why would they like to kill themselves?


The are not almost all white men. Have you looked at the demographics of Congress recently?


Ok, almost was an exaggeration, but the most common democrat is still white man.

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:17 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Atheris wrote:Sing it with me!

There's Ike and there's JFK, LBJ, Adenauer, Brandt, and then there's Kohl, there's Home and Macmillan (twice!) and Atlee and Mitterrand and there's also Roh Tae-woo too!


So many war criminals and regime changers...still zero.

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I'm almost afraid to ask for their source on that claim.

Probably a YouTube video of some guy ranting in his truck or some really sketchy website like truthbrary.org but not a joke
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:17 pm

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Complete and utter nonsense. What's your evidence of a rigged election that somehow missed everything else on the ballot?

I posted the link already. There is even footage of suspicious behavior.


Thats not evidence. All of that was debunked.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:18 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Well that gets to the heart of the mater, what is the point of prison?

You seem to be taking the "punish people" route, which doesn't work out that well in the long run. All you end up doing is wasting people's time and creating an underclass of people.


Punishment AND rehabilitation. I like prison programs like prisoners helping to train dogs for the blind or learning vocational skills. There needs to be more of these programs. For American citizen prisoners, vocational training could be an option and they could have fewer hours of forced labor to ensure they have time for skills training. Prisons also should have libraries and perhaps prisoners could take classes to learn how to read and write and be able to get their GED as well.


Oh how about access to psychological support, not caning?
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:21 pm

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Yes, if done properly and after a fair trial. Also, Michael Fay was a punk that deserved to be caned. I am happy that they didn't spare his butt from being caned just because he comes from a wealthy family. However, I think fewer strokes should be given. Three strokes is enough for most minor crimes. It is funny. Americans say caning is inhumane BUT prison rapes and beatings are acceptable because they are done by fellow convicts. Basically, many Americans want their hands clean and want other convicts to do the tough punishing for them which to me is much crueler.

Caning in Singapore

https://www.sweetsingapore.com/caning-in-singapore/

Overall, I agree with Singapore on who can be caned. However, I think murderers should be allowed to be caned.

Who can be caned in Singapore
However, in these cases, it isn’t as simple as a person breaking the law and then finding himself on the caning block. Rather there are certain stipulations and even exemptions. For instance, only males can be caned. Moreover said males, generally speaking, have to be between 18 and 50 years old, and also they must also be deemed healthy enough to receive the punishment (at the actual time of the caning) by a medical professional. If the criminal is under 18, the cane can only reach a certain prescribed level of thickness. And if he is under 16, he can only be sentenced to receive this punishment by Singapore’s highest courts. Moreover if a prisoner is on death row, he cannot be caned.

Who tf is saying that convicts deserve to be raped and beaten?


It is implied through inaction on making prisons safer. We know community showers and shared cells are dangerous BUT we don't give prisoners private cells (we certainly pay enough to house them that we can afford to do this). Most people choose to pretend prisons are safe and look the other way.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:22 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:The MAGA People have a right to revolt against a tyranical government, just like the Founding Fathers did.


It's a well honored tradition. Remember how Clinton supporters invaded the Capitol in 2016?
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Postby Esalia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:24 pm

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What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?


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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:24 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Who tf is saying that convicts deserve to be raped and beaten?


It is implied through inaction on making prisons safer. We know community showers and shared cells are dangerous BUT we don't give prisoners private cells (we certainly pay enough to house them that we can afford to do this). Most people choose to pretend prisons are safe and look the other way.


The burden is on you to actually show that the crimes you are saying happen actually happen.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:24 pm

If I have to see one more person on Twitter complaining about how they make $15 an hour and will get their feelings hurt if fast food fry cooks get paid the same, I'm going to jump out of my bedroom window.

Sure, my bedroom's on the first floor but surely the four foot fall will have to hurt a little bit.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:25 pm

Walgreens, Pfizer to cut off the GOP members who voted against the certification
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:25 pm

Regarding criminal justice, I recall there being an experiment in Pennsylvania, where correctional officers for a prison wing were retrained in Norway to see if a Scandinavian model of incarceration can work in the American social setting on an American prison budget.

The recent pandemic put the project on indefinite hiatus, but it would have been interesting to see how that worked out.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:26 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Andsed wrote:...

Facts is People are scared. Many Democrats and BLM would like to murder White People and Americans, because of muh slavery and colonialism.


If you're going to spew bullshit, at least make it good rather than whatever this shit is.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:27 pm

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Would you rather spend 3 years in prison NOT working or 6 months in a humane labor camp working 40-50 hours a week? I would rather work 6 months and get my 3 strokes with a cane.

The caning is to show that we don't play games when it comes to crime. The world would not think of America as being too soft and weak and they might tell their friends how the caning hurt which might discourage others from doing these crimes. Michael Fay never vandalized cars in Singapore again. He learned his lesson.

I thought you were for treating people like adults and accepting personal responsibility and all that?

So you wouldn't trust the guberment to handle your brother planning to commit domestic terrorism fairly, but you're all for handing the power to beat the crap out of shoplifters and vandals and building special going away camps?

Do you trust the guberment or not? make up yer mind.

Or do ye just not like poor people?


I am not an anarchist and I want to reduce some laws. Illegal immigrants are adults and most know they are violating a US law when they illegally enter and often illegally work. They need to be held responsible for their actions just like a thief would be. By brother would be a criminal. If the govt. catches him, he should be punished. It is not my job to help the govt. catch him unless I choose to make it my job.

Caning properly is not the same as beating the daylights out of them. I am not advocating police using batons to beat prisoners' heads in or sodomizing prisoners (as NYC police did before).
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:27 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/


That's not evidence that BLM or Democrats want to kill anyone.

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?


That is a straw man argument, no one here has mentioned the white devil. Though it isn't like institutionalized racism disappeared with slavery, or the civil rights movement.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:27 pm

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It's a well honored tradition. Remember how Clinton supporters invaded the Capitol in 2016?

Biden supporerst are now looting Mineapolis, Kenosha and other places for months now.


Ah but its an American right to riot, or are we picking and choosing where and how people are allowed to riot?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:28 pm

Kowani wrote:Walgreens, Pfizer to cut off the GOP members who voted against the certification


How many groups have done this by now? I've long since lost track but it has to be hurting the GOP.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:28 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?


Watch out man, the Dems are coming. :twisted:

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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:29 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?

You're getting straw on the rug. I just had it cleaned, you know!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:30 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?

Stop projecting your insecurities onto others. No one is going to commit white genocide when a run of the mill liberal like Biden gets into office.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?

total rubbish. You still have presented no hardcore evidence of fraud. How did this massive fraud miss every other election?

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kowani wrote:Walgreens, Pfizer to cut off the GOP members who voted against the certification


How many groups have done this by now? I've long since lost track but it has to be hurting the GOP.

24 as of the 14th
so add about 3 more corporations on top of that
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
What is your source, The Klan?

Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?


As a white person it makes sense I want all white people killed. You must be on to something here, thanks for opening my eyes to the truth.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 pm

Omniabstracta wrote:Trump’s disapproval graph has gone vertical, but somehow, still not the worst it’s been in his term yet.

Just a little lower, and he might beat Jimmy Carter for lowest approval rating of an outgoing president!
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Postby Esalia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:33 pm

Kannap wrote:
Svehrvatska wrote:Here is the evidence https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activ ... ed-devine/

I get that many of you have revenge Fantasies to show "the White devil" who is the boss now. Most White People came to the US long after slavery ended. Why you generalize all People?


As a white person it makes sense I want all white people killed. You must be on to something here, thanks for opening my eyes to the truth.


Damn, white genocide is so popular even white people want to get in on it.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:34 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
It is implied through inaction on making prisons safer. We know community showers and shared cells are dangerous BUT we don't give prisoners private cells (we certainly pay enough to house them that we can afford to do this). Most people choose to pretend prisons are safe and look the other way.


The burden is on you to actually show that the crimes you are saying happen actually happen.


Prison rape happens a lot. I would much rather be caned than raped. To me, being raped is much crueler than being caned.

Prison rape in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_ra ... ted_States

Inside the shadowy, unspoken world of prison rape (What is truly sick is that many guards also abuse prisoners.)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/prison-rape- ... oken-world

PRISONERS' VOICES

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/voices.html

How Common is Prison Rape?

https://www.wisegeek.com/how-common-is-prison-rape.htm
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