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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:57 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Cordel One wrote:A lot of rightists in America will defend concentration camps.

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:57 pm

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Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.


You don't know what genocide means, do you?


Somehow I have a feeling there's some "letting brown people have rights = white genocide" argument coming.
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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:As a left-wing radical I wish he was surrounded by people like me instead of warmongering neocons. Also, the left doesn't want to "take your guns".

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
-Karl Marx

There's no evidence against it, and the burden of proof is on you.


What evidence do you have to they are warmongering neocons? Seems everyone whom you dont support automatically gets that label.

Biden helped draft the Patriot Act and enthusiastically supported the Iraq war. Want more?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What's tyranny is being revolted against? Biden won a free and fair election as did the two senators from Georgia.

The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns. Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.


First there is no evidence of fraud in the election. The DoJ didn't find any and 60+ court cases have rejected the argument that their was any fraud.

Getting rid of the first amendment isn't something the Democratic party has even talked about, and requires more than just the presidency and 50 senators.

Opening up the borders doesn't constitute genocide, and saying Biden wants open borders is wildly overstating his, and the Democratic parties, position.

Finally Bidens picks so far have not been all that radical.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns.

No he isn't. The Communist Party USA, which has the political affiliation I believe you're referring to, has one seat in the entire government. Where? Ashland, Wisconsin.

Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

What genocide is he... uh... "constinue"-ing?

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.

Yes, we do, and yes, there is.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:58 pm

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Are you saying Washington was as bad as Mao?

I do think it is a disgrace having Andrew Jackson on the US currency. He was even bad by the standards of his time (as Mao also was). I think Calvin Coolidge should be on the $20 bill instead.


I thought Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill was a nice idea before Trump axed that. Wonder if Biden's treasury will pick that back up or if it'll be left for 2028 like Trump's treasury decided.


I would put her on a $1 coin or a half-dollar or perhaps a $2 coin (which should be made-Hong Kong has it). I like the idea of using these coins to honor important non-leaders in American history. While she should be admired, we need a leader on the $20 bill. Perhaps James Madison should be honored considering the $5,000 bill is no longer printed. Also, while we are at it, we need $500 and $1,000 dollar bills printed (there has been inflation after all) and perhaps Coolidge or Theodore Roosevelt could be on them.
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Postby Vilhelumea » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:59 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What's tyranny is being revolted against? Biden won a free and fair election as did the two senators from Georgia.

The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns. Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.


There is no evidence I didn't win,so therefore I demand to be president due to reasons.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:59 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What's tyranny is being revolted against? Biden won a free and fair election as did the two senators from Georgia.

The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns. Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.

Ah yes leftwing radicals like Bernie sanders who wants the rich beaten to death and conservatives put in prison. Oh wait no he wants better wages and for poor people to stop being punished for having the audacity to get sick or injured.

Oh and yes we do know he won fair and square, international obvservers from across the Americas and elsewhere alongside all the US officials have concluded so. You lost, get over it.


Also continue Genocide on the Americans? What fucking horse shite is that

Oh no a brownman! Ahhhh genocide!
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:00 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Trumpists certainly will.

It is an insult to the victims of the holocaust to call immigration detention centers concentration camps

Holocaust Survivor: Yes, the Border Detention Centers Are Like Concentration Camps

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Andsed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:00 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What's tyranny is being revolted against? Biden won a free and fair election as did the two senators from Georgia.

The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns. Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.

Abolishing the 1st amendment is literally never going to happen. Like no one wants, no not even the “radical left.” And there is a 6-3 conservative lean on the Supreme Court so no ruling against guns is going to happen. Thirdly there has been no indication that Biden is going to open the boarders. Creating an easier path to citizenship sure, open boarders is not in the cards(and I am not even going to validate that genocide comment with a response.)

And yes we do in fact know Biden won fairly. The complete lack of evidence to the contrary is clear enough to know that.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:00 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:01 pm

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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:01 pm

Atheris wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You do kind of have to wonder what he might have been able to achieve if the US hadn't tried to flatten the country out of spite.

Uncle Ho and Tito were the only good commies in the Cold War. I wish we helped Ho Chi Minh, honestly; he had a great deal of respect for the US and would've been a nice ally in SE Asia.


Two is still more than the amount of good capitalists leaders in the Cold War.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:03 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:

Even some European nations even allow for the possibility of imprisoning illegal immigrants and for longer than I suggested.:

Criminalization of Illegal Entry Around the World

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/illegal-entry/chart.php

Irrelevant considering they don't cane people or force them to work


Would you rather spend 3 years in prison NOT working or 6 months in a humane labor camp working 40-50 hours a week? I would rather work 6 months and get my 3 strokes with a cane.

The caning is to show that we don't play games when it comes to crime. The world would not think of America as being too soft and weak and they might tell their friends how the caning hurt which might discourage others from doing these crimes. Michael Fay never vandalized cars in Singapore again. He learned his lesson.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Trumpists certainly will.

It is an insult to the victims of the holocaust to call immigration detention centers concentration camps


You might not know this, but a "concentration camp" does not mean the holocaust.

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Postby Flarbinia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:04 pm

The Impeachment won't work. Nancy Pelosi only got ten Republicans to vote in favor of Impeachment and we are only one week from Inauguration, meaning that not only does she not have the votes needed for it to succeed, but if she impeaches Trump after the 20th, then the already flimsy Impeachment becomes Unconstitutional.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What's tyranny is being revolted against? Biden won a free and fair election as did the two senators from Georgia.

The People are scared becuse Biden is sourounded by left-wing radicals, who could easily abolish the 1st amendmen and take away our guns. Also there is an indication that he will open the borders, and constinue genocide on Americans.

We really dont know whether he won fair and square. There is no evidence for that.


I wouldn't call anyone near his inner circle a "radical leftist". Centre-right neoliberals with some social democrats is more fitting.

As for your claim about guns:

Feyrisshire wrote:
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”

- Ronald Reagan, probably
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:05 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:It is an insult to the victims of the holocaust to call immigration detention centers concentration camps

Also immigration detention centers exist in almost every country


So you agree with ripping children away from their parents, placing them in camps with limited facilities and food?
How the fuck can you deny this is wrong?

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:05 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Complete and utter rubbish. What evidence do you have for election fraud?

Yes of course here is the list https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 ... s-address/

No, like evidence evidence. Not the Gateway Pundit.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:As a left-wing radical I wish he was surrounded by people like me instead of warmongering neocons. Also, the left doesn't want to "take your guns".

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
-Karl Marx

There's no evidence against it, and the burden of proof is on you.


What evidence do you have to they are warmongering neocons? Seems everyone whom you dont support automatically gets that label.


Biden himself was rather proud of the role he played in the Iraq war and "Patriot Act".
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Postby Andsed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:06 pm


All sounds pretty good. Especially rejoining the climate accords.


Flarbinia wrote:The Impeachment won't work. Nancy Pelosi only got ten Republicans to vote in favor of Impeachment and we are only one week from Inauguration, meaning that not only does she not have the votes needed for it to succeed, but if she impeaches Trump after the 20th, then the already flimsy Impeachment becomes Unconstitutional.

Impeachment can still be done after someone leaves office.
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Postby Esalia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Andsed wrote:...

Facts is People are scared. Many Democrats and BLM would like to murder White People and Americans, because of muh slavery and colonialism.


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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Svehrvatska wrote:
Andsed wrote:...

Facts is People are scared. Many Democrats and BLM would like to murder White People and Americans, because of muh slavery and colonialism.

You're funny

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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Irrelevant considering they don't cane people or force them to work


Would you rather spend 3 years in prison NOT working or 6 months in a humane labor camp working 40-50 hours a week? I would rather work 6 months and get my 3 strokes with a cane.

The caning is to show that we don't play games when it comes to crime. The world would not think of America as being too soft and weak and they might tell their friends how the caning hurt which might discourage others from doing these crimes. Michael Fay never vandalized cars in Singapore again. He learned his lesson.


How about you stop uttering absolute disgusting proposals.

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