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The Untied State
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Postby The Untied State » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:56 am

Page wrote:This will be the first inauguration I'll watch since 2009. Back then I skipped English class to watch it on the TV of the campus administration building, felt like an important moment in history that I shouldn't miss. Of course back then I was a teenage liberal who said cringey shit like "post-racial society" and I genuinely thought the wars would end.

I don't remember where I was on Obama's second, my guess is I was asleep because this was a time when I'd go the gym at 3AM.

Then in 2017, it was my first time back in America since moving abroad, I was with my wife and my mother-in-law came too, we went out for breakfast and then when we got to my parents' house they put on the TV. I said something to my parents along the lines of "This is fucking sickening, I can't watch this" which I think my MIL got the gist of despite not speaking English. The language barrier kept her and my parents from an awkward discussion. I left and my wife caught up with me after a few minutes of watching in horror.

i don't think i've ever actually watched one, i didn't watch trump's and before that, i was either too young or not interested in politics enough to care. wait nvm i was at lincoln's inauguration was pretty lit as the kids like to say
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Postby Esternial » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:56 am

Ifreann wrote:state governors don't all have the same powers.

This made me imagine state governors as very bland power rangers.

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Postby The Untied State » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:57 am

Esternial wrote:
Ifreann wrote:state governors don't all have the same powers.

This made me imagine state governors as very bland power rangers.

i raise you, magical girl governers
so basically 2020 election happens, there's a civil bloodbath, and the political system is overhauled as the nation tries to find unity and a new identity in a new age of political violence, alaska, hawaii, and puerto rico left the union, proportional representation enabled an increasingly individualized and oddly specific political climate, and lib-left lib-right solidarity is the favored form of compromise, now with a new flag!

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:59 am

The Untied State wrote:
Esternial wrote:This made me imagine state governors as very bland power rangers.

i raise you, magical girl governers

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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:03 am

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tbh Larry Hogan is probably the best Republican state governor. Doesn't mean he's a good one, but I agree with more things he's done then other republican governors. Especially this.


I think its a great idea but I don't think its constitutional. You can't use an executive order to rewrite the state constitution. if one can then Evers in Wisconsin should do this as well.


Meh, the legislature will just ignore him and go back to building districts that look like morbidly obese tapeworms as usual.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:In no state can the executive amend the constitution via executive order. If they could there is no need for a legislature as they are effectively a monarch.

Well that's beside the point. The Governor of Maryland planning to do something by executive order doesn't mean anything for what the Governor of Wisconsin might do. At least as far as I'm aware, state governors don't all have the same powers.

No they don't but amending the constitution via executive order is something not one of them can do.

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I think its a great idea but I don't think its constitutional. You can't use an executive order to rewrite the state constitution. if one can then Evers in Wisconsin should do this as well.


Meh, the legislature will just ignore him and go back to building districts that look like morbidly obese tapeworms as usual.


I agree. Maryland has some of the worst gerrymandering in the country. It should be done by independent commission.

There is no reason for Annapolis to be drawn into a district with Baltimore for example.

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Postby Faraby » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:05 am

Page wrote:This will be the first inauguration I'll watch since 2009. Back then I skipped English class to watch it on the TV of the campus administration building, felt like an important moment in history that I shouldn't miss. Of course back then I was a teenage liberal who said cringey shit like "post-racial society" and I genuinely thought the wars would end.

I don't remember where I was on Obama's second, my guess is I was asleep because this was a time when I'd go the gym at 3AM.

Then in 2017, it was my first time back in America since moving abroad, I was with my wife and my mother-in-law came too, we went out for breakfast and then when we got to my parents' house they put on the TV. I said something to my parents along the lines of "This is fucking sickening, I can't watch this" which I think my MIL got the gist of despite not speaking English. The language barrier kept her and my parents from an awkward discussion. I left and my wife caught up with me after a few minutes of watching in horror.


If I remember correctly 8-year-old me tried to stay up to watch the first Obama inauguration (it's midnight in Indonesia), but fell asleep and missed it lol. I didn't remember watching the second inauguration, I guess I just didn't find it that exciting. I watched Trump's inauguration (or at least parts of it, I remember the swearing-in but I'm not sure I watched the entire speech) on YouTube.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well that's beside the point. The Governor of Maryland planning to do something by executive order doesn't mean anything for what the Governor of Wisconsin might do. At least as far as I'm aware, state governors don't all have the same powers.

No they don't but...

That's what I thought.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:10 am

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... user-share

Governor Edwards of Louisiana has set March 20th as the election date for the two vacant congressional seats.

https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/ ... 151817001/

Julia Letlow widow of rep elect Luke Letlow has announced she will run in district 5 and is the likely frontrunner.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:12 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Tulsi Gabbard should unironically go for the GOP nom for the hilarity it would bring. Double points if she got it. Triple points if she won and became POTUS.

Wow I could vote for someone in good conscience finally


And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Wow I could vote for someone in good conscience finally


And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:20 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocate for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMOs, and some others) but on the whole, she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.

sounds really based, i approve. what are her stances on nuclear and gmos?
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:21 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.

She’s also a veteran and a true patriot, and isn’t afraid of calling out anyone
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:21 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/elections/article_20e0b5d8-5060-11eb-b667-d37d56cd2cf0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

Governor Edwards of Louisiana has set March 20th as the election date for the two vacant congressional seats.

https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/ ... 151817001/

Julia Letlow widow of rep elect Luke Letlow has announced she will run in district 5 and is the likely frontrunner.


Well, good luck to her, I guess. Nothing really to look at, they're both pretty safe seats. As for the other, I think(at this moment) it'll go to Karen Peterson, though it may be a runoff.
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Postby Arisyan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:22 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.


but then you have Bernie Sanders who has virtually those same positions but without the SJW-ism.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:22 am

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/elections/article_20e0b5d8-5060-11eb-b667-d37d56cd2cf0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

Governor Edwards of Louisiana has set March 20th as the election date for the two vacant congressional seats.

https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/ ... 151817001/

Julia Letlow widow of rep elect Luke Letlow has announced she will run in district 5 and is the likely frontrunner.


Well, good luck to her, I guess. Nothing really to look at, they're both pretty safe seats. As for the other, I think(at this moment) it'll go to Karen Peterson, though it may be a runoff.

A runoff is likely in both seats though many Republicans said they wouldnt run in LA-5 if Julia got in therefore she likely wins outright
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:23 am

Arisyan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.


but then you have Bernie Sanders who has virtually those same positions but without the SJW-ism.

cool buzzword, very intellectual of you
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:23 am

Arisyan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.


but then you have Bernie Sanders who has virtually those same positions but without the SJW-ism.

Bernie Sanders is the opposite, Tulsi is all of Bernie’s based parts without caving in to the woke crowd
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:24 am

what's that website where you can look up a politician and see their stances on basically everything
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:25 am

Arisyan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.


but then you have Bernie Sanders who has virtually those same positions but without the SJW-ism.

Tulsi doesn't have it either. Sanders I like personally but I do think he's a tad too idealistic when it comes to what it would take to govern a superpower/empire. He makes a great member of Congress and him pushing certain things forward should go down as an important period in American politics because it's even begun to shift the American right on economics (though not as much).
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:26 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Arisyan wrote:
but then you have Bernie Sanders who has virtually those same positions but without the SJW-ism.

Tulsi doesn't have it either. Sanders I like personally but I do think he's a tad too idealistic when it comes to what it would take to govern a superpower/empire. He makes a great member of Congress and him pushing certain things forward should go down as an important period in American politics because it's even begun to shift the American right on economics (though not as much).

It’s hard not to shift on economics when we have bread lines in the streets
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Postby Untecna » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:26 am

Somehow still arguing in the WA since 2020.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Well, good luck to her, I guess. Nothing really to look at, they're both pretty safe seats. As for the other, I think(at this moment) it'll go to Karen Peterson, though it may be a runoff.

A runoff is likely in both seats though many Republicans said they wouldnt run in LA-5 if Julia got in therefore she likely wins outright


Scalise already endorsed her too, so that'll keep Harris out. Yeah, she'll win outright. LA-2's a different story. Karen Peterson and Troy Carter both have strong followings in New Orleans, that'll make it a close race.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:27 am

The Marlborough wrote:Tulsi Gabbard should unironically go for the GOP nom for the hilarity it would bring. Double points if she got it. Triple points if she won and became POTUS.


Full support.

Thanks to Donald Trump the old GOP is finished for good. That is an historical achivement and net positive.

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Vassenor wrote:
And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.


Sounds superb.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:28 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what is actually good about her positions? Or is this just a vapid "she said foreign wars bad so can do no wrong" spiel?

Legalize marijuana, end private prisons, support some form of a Green New Deal, advocating for greater accessibility for those with disabilities, free tuition for community colleges, UBI for stay at home parents, universal healthcare, yes less foreign adventurism. I don't agree with her on certain issues (nuclear power, GMO's, and some others) but on the whole she has some pretty good ideas and at the very least is someone I could say genuinely gives a shit.

Why do so many leftists hate her then?
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