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by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:16 pm
by Valrifell » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:17 pm
Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
by Nakena » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:17 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:18 pm
Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
by Page » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:18 pm
Senkaku wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:If you spill hot coffee on yourself
You know a woman was actually horrifically burned all over her body by literal boiling-hot coffee at McDonald's, and when she sued them, they ran a smear campaign to turn her into a national punchline like this?or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers,
A lot of McDonald's content from you today, but I'll take your point more broadly on health issues created by corporate products, whether it's hamburgers or cigarettes or talc baby powder. It turns out, when you're presented with only unhealthy options to put in your body, or you're told things are healthy which are in fact terrible for you, you're not in control of the situation and the adverse health effects that result could hardly be said to be your fault.or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs,
I haven't heard of this happening, and it does sound pretty funny, but given the level of insight you show in the rest of this post, I'm almost afraid the actual story is some terrible tragedy where the company really was at fault.it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
No, libertarians have been hoodwinked by corporate propaganda to advocate politically for the financial interests of vast, impersonal entities that couldn't care less if they lived or died.
by Chan Island » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:18 pm
Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:19 pm
Kowani wrote:Trump speaks out again
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:19 pm
Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
by San Lumen » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:20 pm
Kowani wrote:Trump speaks out again
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:20 pm
by Celritannia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:20 pm
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by Page » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:21 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:21 pm
Chan Island wrote:Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
It rarely does. Libertarianism is an ideology that appeals to 16 year olds who think the world will revolve around them, that they will be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want and that they will be in charge.
Then usually they read about one of the numerous horror stories of corporations paying their way out of trouble and the whole edifice kinda falls apart.
by Chan Island » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:21 pm
Page wrote:Senkaku wrote:You know a woman was actually horrifically burned all over her body by literal boiling-hot coffee at McDonald's, and when she sued them, they ran a smear campaign to turn her into a national punchline like this?
A lot of McDonald's content from you today, but I'll take your point more broadly on health issues created by corporate products, whether it's hamburgers or cigarettes or talc baby powder. It turns out, when you're presented with only unhealthy options to put in your body, or you're told things are healthy which are in fact terrible for you, you're not in control of the situation and the adverse health effects that result could hardly be said to be your fault.
I haven't heard of this happening, and it does sound pretty funny, but given the level of insight you show in the rest of this post, I'm almost afraid the actual story is some terrible tragedy where the company really was at fault.
No, libertarians have been hoodwinked by corporate propaganda to advocate politically for the financial interests of vast, impersonal entities that couldn't care less if they lived or died.
Also all she wanted at first was for McDonald's to pay her medical bills (which were in the five digits cause 'Murika) but they refused, the hot coffee lawsuit was basically just a jury rightfully punishing McDonald's for being dicks.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:22 pm
by Page » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:23 pm
Kowani wrote:Republicans are already turning on each other
by Esternial » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:23 pm
Nakena wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Libertarianism is just corporate slop.
No its like something that seemed a good idea in better times. Like in 2012 all the cool kids were libertarian leaning. But if someone STILL is today... it just shows a lot of ignorance and lack of political evolution and understanding of what happened.
by Andsed » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pm
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pm
Nakena wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Libertarianism is just corporate slop.
No its like something that seemed a good idea in better times. Like in 2012 all the cool kids were libertarian leaning. But if someone STILL is today... it just shows a lot of ignorance and lack of political evolution and understanding of what happened.
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:26 pm
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote: Statism is anti-feline.
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:27 pm
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Nakena wrote:
No its like something that seemed a good idea in better times. Like in 2012 all the cool kids were libertarian leaning. But if someone STILL is today... it just shows a lot of ignorance and lack of political evolution and understanding of what happened.
I’m still libertarian. Statism is anti-feline.
by Page » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:28 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:28 pm
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:29 pm
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump supporters are refusing to give any money to the GOP. Whoops
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