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by Rusozak » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:04 pm
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:04 pm
Rusozak wrote:Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
Libertarianism has a bit of a schism on Trump. I've been following the folks at Reason.com; the various contributors and editors-at-large of the publication appear extremely critical of Trump, especially as concerns claims nonsensical claims as to election fraud. On the other hand, contributors to their comments sections seem very much of an opposite opinion.
To be fair, even when I followed Libertarianism in earnest, it was mostly the Reason crowd and a selection of intellectual/university types, and that was a while ago, so my info might be out of date.
I wasn't aware there were any libertarian Trumpers, with all the "Law and Order" pro-police state talk they've been dishing out until a week ago.
by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:04 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:04 pm
by Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:05 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many Libertarians are very similar to Republicans. In fact, I think many probably support Trump, with a few exceptions.
That's because libertarianism is a rich man's ideology, just like the GOP is a rich man's party. Their goals overlap: screw the poor in the name of "freedom" and then blame the "commies" (whoever they might be at the time; usually Dems) for ruining the country.
by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:05 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It was some mid level nobody who has already been fired from the sounds of it. What a nothingburger.
This isn't the first time someone has suggested persecuting Trump supporters. While most people do not believe in doing this, let's not pretend there aren't some vengeful people out there who wouldn't want to.
And let's not pretend that the trump supporters will be more reasonable after hearing this.
by Proctopeo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:06 pm
Rusozak wrote:Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
Libertarianism has a bit of a schism on Trump. I've been following the folks at Reason.com; the various contributors and editors-at-large of the publication appear extremely critical of Trump, especially as concerns claims nonsensical claims as to election fraud. On the other hand, contributors to their comments sections seem very much of an opposite opinion.
To be fair, even when I followed Libertarianism in earnest, it was mostly the Reason crowd and a selection of intellectual/university types, and that was a while ago, so my info might be out of date.
I wasn't aware there were any libertarian Trumpers, with all the "Law and Order" pro-police state talk they've been dishing out until a week ago.
by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:06 pm
Kowani wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This isn't the first time someone has suggested persecuting Trump supporters. While most people do not believe in doing this, let's not pretend there aren't some vengeful people out there who wouldn't want to.
And let's not pretend that the trump supporters will be more reasonable after hearing this.
it's project fucking veritas
if it's not bullshit, I'll buy a MAGA hat
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Actually, many big corporations favor regulations and bailouts when it benefits them.
by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
That's because libertarianism is a rich man's ideology, just like the GOP is a rich man's party. Their goals overlap: screw the poor in the name of "freedom" and then blame the "commies" (whoever they might be at the time; usually Dems) for ruining the country.
Actually, many big corporations favor regulations and bailouts when it benefits them. Libertarians are against big bailouts and regulations (like regulations blocking Air BNB and Uber in favor or major hotel chains and taxi companies, or regulations that ban importing drugs from Canada, or restaurants trying to prevent food trucks from their neighborhoods) and free money which favors big companies (such as taxes to pay for profession sports stadiums)
Libertarians might be more the party of the upper middle class (like small business owners) and the GOP and oddly certain democrats seem to favor certain wealthy types (ex. owners of companies that benefit from the industrial military complex and industrial prison complex and major league sports owners and the Hollywood elite).
Many libertarians have major issues with Trump. I lean more libertarian than republican and I also have major issues with Trump as well (but Biden/Harris are much worse because they agree with Trump on many of his worst points and disagree on most of his good points).
by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:08 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Kowani wrote:it's project fucking veritas
if it's not bullshit, I'll buy a MAGA hat
Tbf I don't think Veritas is always bullshit. They did release a video I found to be pretty compelling back in... 2016 maybe? It was about a paid rioter or something and at least from some brief digging there was a papertrail showing she did receive some payments from various PAC's.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:08 pm
Vassenor wrote:Senkaku wrote:Call me when someone actually does it. As WRA said, this is a nothingburger. In fact, it's the fucking same old playbook-- screaming "the left is going to try to rig the election! the left is going to launch a coup!" or whatever the fuck it is that the American left manifestly is not doing, and then using that to mobilize conservatives to actually do those things in response. You are part of this country's disinformation problem by credulously spreading horse shit like this.
KK is obsessed with the idea that a purge of all Trump supporters is coming any day now.
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:09 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:11 pm
by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:12 pm
by Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:12 pm
Vassenor wrote:Senkaku wrote:Call me when someone actually does it. As WRA said, this is a nothingburger. In fact, it's the fucking same old playbook-- screaming "the left is going to try to rig the election! the left is going to launch a coup!" or whatever the fuck it is that the American left manifestly is not doing, and then using that to mobilize conservatives to actually do those things in response. You are part of this country's disinformation problem by credulously spreading horse shit like this.
KK is obsessed with the idea that a purge of all Trump supporters is coming any day now.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:13 pm
Thermodolia wrote:More evidence has come out that this was planned from the start. Law Enforcement officials are saying they’ve found video evidence of coordinated tactics.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html
by Senkaku » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:13 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:If you spill hot coffee on yourself
or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers,
or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs,
it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:15 pm
Nakena wrote:A lot of people used to be libertarian or sympathizing with the idea. But it's not really standing the test of time.
by Valrifell » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:16 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Kowani wrote:it's project fucking veritas
if it's not bullshit, I'll buy a MAGA hat
Tbf I don't think Veritas is always bullshit. They did release a video I found to be pretty compelling back in... 2016 maybe? It was about a paid rioter or something and at least from some brief digging there was a papertrail showing she did receive some payments from various PAC's.
by Page » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:16 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Vassenor wrote:
KK is obsessed with the idea that a purge of all Trump supporters is coming any day now.
Not a purge where they will be legally beat and thrown in reeducation camps like during the China Cultural Revolution BUT many are being punished by employers and schools for their political views (some leftists like the manager Ozzie Guillen faced this purge as well for supporting Castro and his punishment bothers me today even though I oppose Castro). Many Americans don't like the idea of people having opposing viewpoints. If you tell me that you like Hitler or Stalin, I might be surprised but I would want to know why and I could still get along wit that person as long as they did not get angry if I had different views. I would be fine if a co-worker was a Nazi or a Maoist or a Jihadist or a man-hating feminist in his/her spare time as long as he/she was respectful and polite at work and didn't force his/her views on me. What happens outside of work should stay outside of work. Most Americans are less tolerant though.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:16 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Vassenor wrote:
KK is obsessed with the idea that a purge of all Trump supporters is coming any day now.
Not a purge where they will be legally beat and thrown in reeducation camps like during the China Cultural Revolution BUT many are being punished by employers and schools for their political views (some leftists like the manager Ozzie Guillen faced this purge as well for supporting Castro and his punishment bothers me today even though I oppose Castro). Many Americans don't like the idea of people having opposing viewpoints. If you tell me that you like Hitler or Stalin, I might be surprised but I would want to know why and I could still get along wit that person as long as they did not get angry if I had different views. I would be fine if a co-worker was a Nazi or a Maoist or a Jihadist or a man-hating feminist in his/her spare time as long as he/she was respectful and polite at work and didn't force his/her views on me. What happens outside of work should stay outside of work. Most Americans are less tolerant though.
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