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by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:56 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
by Senkaku » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Some of those ten came out of nowhere. I suspect something weighed strongly on their conscience to the point where they finally, finally did what they thought was right. Dan Newhouse (R-WA), for instance, issues a mea culpa for facilitating Trump for four years and for enabling him, and encouraged other Republicans to follow suit.
by Vassenor » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Senkaku wrote:
Call me when someone actually does it. As WRA said, this is a nothingburger. In fact, it's the fucking same old playbook-- screaming "the left is going to try to rig the election! the left is going to launch a coup!" or whatever the fuck it is that the American left manifestly is not doing, and then using that to mobilize conservatives to actually do those things in response. You are part of this country's disinformation problem by credulously spreading horse shit like this.
by The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Senkaku wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Some of those ten came out of nowhere. I suspect something weighed strongly on their conscience to the point where they finally, finally did what they thought was right. Dan Newhouse (R-WA), for instance, issues a mea culpa for facilitating Trump for four years and for enabling him, and encouraged other Republicans to follow suit.
A day late and a dollar short, but it is pretty wild that there's still so few of them, even when so little is being asked.
by Proctopeo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:58 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
Fucking lmao do you actually believe this bullshit?
by Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:58 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It was some mid level nobody who has already been fired from the sounds of it. What a nothingburger.
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:58 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
Fucking lmao do you actually believe this bullshit?
by Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:59 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
by Rusozak » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:59 pm
Major-Tom wrote:In addition, many on the Hill have said that there are dozens of Republicans who would consider impeachment were it not for the imminent threat or bind that would place their family in. It is immensely regrettable that otherwise decent people are so scared of their own constituents, their own voting bloc, and entire portion of their districts that they ultimately cannot make the choice they would like out of sheer fear.
by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:59 pm
by The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:59 pm
by Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:00 pm
by Valrifell » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:00 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:00 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
Don’t you mean “I’ve got mine. Screw you all!”
Libertarians have been trying to be main stream for oh shoot.....since I was at uni. They haven’t achieved much in all that time.
It’s almost like it’s some kind of hipster thing so they can say they aren’t republicans.
by Kowani » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
by Corrian » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
Omniabstracta wrote:Corrian wrote:I think this entire event has thrown the 2022 elections into chaos. I wonder how many just flipped districts that didn't vote to impeach Trump could flip back after this.
Personally, I’ve decided to give up making any political predictions for the next two years because nothing makes sense anymore.
by Rusozak » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many Libertarians are very similar to Republicans. In fact, I think many probably support Trump, with a few exceptions.
Libertarianism has a bit of a schism on Trump. I've been following the folks at Reason.com; the various contributors and editors-at-large of the publication appear extremely critical of Trump, especially as concerns claims nonsensical claims as to election fraud. On the other hand, contributors to their comments sections seem very much of an opposite opinion.
To be fair, even when I followed Libertarianism in earnest, it was mostly the Reason crowd and a selection of intellectual/university types, and that was a while ago, so my info might be out of date.
by Gravlen » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
Rusozak wrote:Major-Tom wrote:In addition, many on the Hill have said that there are dozens of Republicans who would consider impeachment were it not for the imminent threat or bind that would place their family in. It is immensely regrettable that otherwise decent people are so scared of their own constituents, their own voting bloc, and entire portion of their districts that they ultimately cannot make the choice they would like out of sheer fear.
What ever happened to the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" line?
by Major-Tom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
by Omniabstracta » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not going to happen. Many people are sheep that like the security felt from big brother controlling them. many also don't believe in personal responsibility. If you spill hot coffee on yourself or become obese from eating too many McDonald's hamburgers, or get scared by a movie poster and fall down the stairs, it is the fault of a big company and not your fault.
Libertarians want to treat adults like actual adults and that is too scary for most people (worldwide-not just the USA).
Don’t you mean “I’ve got mine. Screw you all!”
Libertarians have been trying to be main stream for oh shoot.....since I was at uni. They haven’t achieved much in all that time.
It’s almost like it’s some kind of hipster thing so they can say they aren’t republicans.
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:02 pm
Valrifell wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Plus there was more to that coffee case that meets the eye. Like it causing third degree burns when she only spilled a small amount on herself.
If a judge rewards a settlement then there's typically more to the story than "omg stupid consumer lmaooo", especially considering the quality of lawyers that corporate money can get.
Usually the consumer isn't the one at fault.
by The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:03 pm
Rusozak wrote:Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
Libertarianism has a bit of a schism on Trump. I've been following the folks at Reason.com; the various contributors and editors-at-large of the publication appear extremely critical of Trump, especially as concerns claims nonsensical claims as to election fraud. On the other hand, contributors to their comments sections seem very much of an opposite opinion.
To be fair, even when I followed Libertarianism in earnest, it was mostly the Reason crowd and a selection of intellectual/university types, and that was a while ago, so my info might be out of date.
I wasn't aware there were any libertarian Trumpers, with all the "Law and Order" pro-police state talk they've been dishing out until a week ago.
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