American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Major-Tom]

A sneak preview of Trump's speech at Alamo tomorrow.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWXFiQWWfk

If only he were that entertaining while doing it.

Well apparently..

Rather than focus on any of these pressing issues, Trump is going Tuesday to Alamo, Texas -- not to be confused with The Alamo -- to talk about the border wall as his last stand.

Is going to place called Alamo really the actions of a responsible president in these times?

He probably thinks it's the actual Alamo, much like the actual Four Seasons.

[Faraby]

It's really hard to remember what was going on two years ago given this presidency.. it's like reading the Richard Wolf book up to chapter 6 and thinking 'jesus.. how does this get worse' and the next chapter is simply titled - Scaramucci.

It's been a long four years, with plenty of twists and turns. It would be entertaining weren't it so exhausting and occasionally terrifying.

It's hard to believe that soon it's going to be four years since he signed the travel ban, fired the acting Attorney General, and implied that Frederick Douglass was still alive. I still remember them like it's yesterday.

[Yuzu China]

just think of the hundreds of thousands who wouldn't have been dead of this fucking pandemic due to trump basically giving up

how many of them used to log on to ns to do whatever, living out their lives online and off, before those twin catastrophes fucked one another? how many would've been deranged by trump's lies and so forgot or forbade themselves from protecting their own, infected others, and either died or now live crippled lives?

ah death, so spiritually taxing

A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

Any East Asian country, democracy or not handles it just fine. Korea, Japan, Vietnam, whatever. Europe/virtually all Western countries are such jokes these days, check the Covid indicators. It's not a democracy or governmental type issue. It's common sense.

[Kowani]

I think Kowani shared that news a few hours ago.

Fuckit, I’m making this part of my sig

[Freiheit Reich]

To be fair it’s not all liberals, the ones who actually care about liberty are agreeable and respectable people, but the SJW types who want to ban things because it hurts their feelings should be called out

You mean the ones the Rightists make up because they hate the fact that being casually racist isn't socially acceptable any more?

Unless you are a liberal university of course. I guess Asians are not a minority in the USA anymore (despite there being fewer Asians than blacks or Hispanics) so it is OK to discriminate against them.

The stunning evidence of Harvard’s racism

https://nypost.com/2018/06/17/the-stunn ... ds-racism/

Harvard Discriminates Against Asian-Americans, and 'Implicit' Bias Training Won't Fix That

https://reason.com/2019/10/08/harvard-a ... dmissions/

existing Supreme Court precedent does permit universities to consider an applicant's race as one criteria for admissions, if narrowly-tailored to create a diverse student body. Burroughs ruled that Harvard's policy falls within those guidelines. (it is legalized racism which means that racism is permitted in this case and socially acceptable).

[Kowani]

FR aside

Pramilla Jayapal (D-WA) tests positive for coronavirus, blames Republicans who didn't wear masks when they were all sheltering

[Freiheit Reich]

If nothing else it was relaxing not to hear about what the president has just said, or did, on a daily if not hourly basis.

Now think of how bad Trump was to make you miss Obama or Bush. Think of how chaotic he's been.

Remember that Bush and friends were convicted of war crimes:

War Criminals Among Us: Bush, Cheney, and the Eyes of the World

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/p ... ar-crimes/

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were... found guilty of war crimes. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia

Also, don't forget the other ills of the Bush administration.

Rating Donald Trump: At least he's not George W. Bush

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... rge-w-bush

[Maineiacs]

Well apparently..

Rather than focus on any of these pressing issues, Trump is going Tuesday to Alamo, Texas -- not to be confused with The Alamo -- to talk about the border wall as his last stand.

Is going to place called Alamo really the actions of a responsible president in these times?

Alamo, TX is a nothing town about 8 miles from the border. There's no crossing there, and you can't see his wall from there, so unless things have changed since I was last there (about '96), there's no reason to choose it over the larger cities in the Rio Grande Valley like Brownsville, McAllen, or Harlingen.

[Freiheit Reich]

It's been a long four years, with plenty of twists and turns. It would be entertaining weren't it so exhausting and occasionally terrifying.

It's hard to believe that soon it's going to be four years since he signed the travel ban, fired the acting Attorney General, and implied that Frederick Douglass was still alive. I still remember them like it's yesterday.

There are many gentlemen named 'Frederick Douglas' still alive so Trump is right about this:

https://www.peoplefinders.com/people/fr ... anding=all

The travel ban is fine. Plenty of nations banned American citizens from traveling recently and many nations are enacting travel bans of civilized nations like Japan, UK, France, Germany, and Spain (Australia and New Zealand banned citizens from all nations outside Oceania). I say we play tit-for-tat and ban citizens from all nations that want to ban Americans. Also, we banned those from hostile nations. Many Muslim nations ban Israel citizens so they should expect bans as well. Are you worried about hurting North Korea's or Iran's feelings?

18 countries that boycott Israel

https://lifeinsaudiarabia.net/top-18-co ... ott-israe/

[Freiheit Reich]

Well apparently..

Rather than focus on any of these pressing issues, Trump is going Tuesday to Alamo, Texas -- not to be confused with The Alamo -- to talk about the border wall as his last stand.

Is going to place called Alamo really the actions of a responsible president in these times?

I still don’t get why he keeps insisting on an ineffective wall when the obvious solution is to beef up vetting at airports and having armed patrols at the border

Two words: Migrant caravans

We need to build the border wall to stop the migrant caravans

https://nypost.com/2019/01/16/we-need-t ... -caravans/

[Freiheit Reich]

A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

Yes they would have.

The top 4 states in covid-19 deaths per capita are VERY democrat and they heavily suppressed civil liberties (esp. New York) and still failed:

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States as of January 11, 2021, by state

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... -by-state/

A good leader would have done what Ron Paul suggested and just inform the people and let people decide if they want to social distance and wear masks or not. I prefer freedom with a few more deaths over totalitarianism. Many Americans are disappointingly weak and very quick to panic and give up their freedoms for security. "Live free or die."

[Comerciante]

"Live free die."

FTFY

[Freiheit Reich]

Please don't remind me of the disappointment that was Barack Obama.

He honestly was good. Not great or anything and def had problems. But he was overall good at runing the nation.

His nice smile and good speech-making ability seems to have made you forget why he was bad. I am still waiting for him to apologize to Snowden and ask Trump to pardon him and I am waiting for his apology for renewing the Patriot Act and keeping us in Afghanistan:

Fourteen Reasons Why Obama Was Such A Terrible President.

https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2020/0 ... president/

10 Biggest Scandals Of The Obama Presidency

https://listverse.com/2019/11/07/obama- ... -scandals/

[Jedi Council]

Yes they would have.

The top 4 states in covid-19 deaths per capita are VERY democrat and they heavily suppressed civil liberties (esp. New York) and still failed:

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States as of January 11, 2021, by state

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... -by-state/

A good leader would have done what Ron Paul suggested and just inform the people and let people decide if they want to social distance and wear masks or not. I prefer freedom with a few more deaths over totalitarianism. Many Americans are disappointingly weak and very quick to panic and give up their freedoms for security. "Live free or die."

The fact you think COVID response measures are totalitarian is a huge clue that you have never actually lived in a totalitarian country.

But keep throwing that word around, its sure to scare enough on the right to actually convince them they are living in North Korea.

[Freiheit Reich]

The top 4 states in covid-19 deaths per capita are VERY democrat and they heavily suppressed civil liberties (esp. New York) and still failed:

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States as of January 11, 2021, by state

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... -by-state/

A good leader would have done what Ron Paul suggested and just inform the people and let people decide if they want to social distance and wear masks or not. I prefer freedom with a few more deaths over totalitarianism. Many Americans are disappointingly weak and very quick to panic and give up their freedoms for security. "Live free or die."

The fact you think COVID response measures are totalitarian is a huge clue that you have never actually lived in a totalitarian country.

But keep throwing that word around, its sure to scare enough on the right to actually convince them they are living in North Korea.

Well, putting a lot of people in prison is a form of totalitarianism. In this case, the USA is #1.

U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate

https://www.prb.org/us-incarceration/

Since 2002, the United States has had the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/refugees- ... -the-left/

Left-wing hysterics with major media platforms have for years been shrieking that President Trump is about to install a fascist dictatorship any minute. Meanwhile, unheard immigrants from the Soviet bloc warn that totalitarian tyranny is actually emerging from the left — and Americans are too naive to see it coming.

[Jedi Council]

The fact you think COVID response measures are totalitarian is a huge clue that you have never actually lived in a totalitarian country.

But keep throwing that word around, its sure to scare enough on the right to actually convince them they are living in North Korea.

Well, putting a lot of people in prison is a form of totalitarianism. In this case, the USA is #1.

U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate

https://www.prb.org/us-incarceration/

Since 2002, the United States has had the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/refugees- ... -the-left/

Left-wing hysterics with major media platforms have for years been shrieking that President Trump is about to install a fascist dictatorship any minute. Meanwhile, unheard immigrants from the Soviet bloc warn that totalitarian tyranny is actually emerging from the left — and Americans are too naive to see it coming.

Wow, that's probably the worse pivot I've ever seen. Stay away from politics, you're not cut out for it.

Also, marks off for using the NYP as a source; it's a rag whose primary value is only unlocked when it is burned for heat.

[Comerciante]

The fact you think COVID response measures are totalitarian is a huge clue that you have never actually lived in a totalitarian country.

But keep throwing that word around, its sure to scare enough on the right to actually convince them they are living in North Korea.

Well, putting a lot of people in prison is a form of totalitarianism. In this case, the USA is #1.

U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate

https://www.prb.org/us-incarceration/

Since 2002, the United States has had the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/refugees- ... -the-left/

Left-wing hysterics with major media platforms have for years been shrieking that President Trump is about to install a fascist dictatorship any minute. Meanwhile, unheard immigrants from the Soviet bloc warn that totalitarian tyranny is actually emerging from the left — and Americans are too naive to see it coming.

Hey man I just put that Goal Post over there, can ya maybe stop moving it?

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

The fact you think COVID response measures are totalitarian is a huge clue that you have never actually lived in a totalitarian country.

But keep throwing that word around, its sure to scare enough on the right to actually convince them they are living in North Korea.

Well, putting a lot of people in prison is a form of totalitarianism. In this case, the USA is #1.

U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate

https://www.prb.org/us-incarceration/

Since 2002, the United States has had the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/refugees- ... -the-left/

Left-wing hysterics with major media platforms have for years been shrieking that President Trump is about to install a fascist dictatorship any minute. Meanwhile, unheard immigrants from the Soviet bloc warn that totalitarian tyranny is actually emerging from the left — and Americans are too naive to see it coming.

You are like the Razorfist of NS users. You keep throwing all these articles left, right and center to support your flimsy arguments. It is fairly hard to distinguish what is true and what isn't every time you post a single word to this forum. All this "no u the Left blah blah" is bullshit, the Left have no institutional power and you know it.

What was it your idol said? That it's easier to convince people of a Big Lie than a little one?

[Gravlen]

There is particular fear among Republicans in Trump-heavy districts who voted against the GOP’s doomed bid to overturn the election results. Many came home last week to find constituents — preachers, school superintendents, churchgoing men and women — cheering on the effort rather than condemning it, according to multiple GOP lawmakers.

“Both parties have extremists,” said the GOP lawmaker. “There's a difference in our crazy people and their crazy people. Our crazy people have an excessive amount of arms. They have gun safes. They have grenades. They believe in the Second Amendment. They come here and Trump's made them think this is the Alamo.”

The fear of attacks on elected officials is real, and impacts the decisions they're making...

[Jedi Council]

There is particular fear among Republicans in Trump-heavy districts who voted against the GOP’s doomed bid to overturn the election results. Many came home last week to find constituents — preachers, school superintendents, churchgoing men and women — cheering on the effort rather than condemning it, according to multiple GOP lawmakers.

“Both parties have extremists,” said the GOP lawmaker. “There's a difference in our crazy people and their crazy people. Our crazy people have an excessive amount of arms. They have gun safes. They have grenades. They believe in the Second Amendment. They come here and Trump's made them think this is the Alamo.”

The fear of attacks on elected officials is real, and impacts the decisions they're making...

It's hard to feel sympathy when they indulged the far right for years for short term political gain.

Perhaps instead of pandering to their ammosexual, wingnut, far-right-through-Poland base, they should have done what responsible public officials, and parents, do; say no.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

There is particular fear among Republicans in Trump-heavy districts who voted against the GOP’s doomed bid to overturn the election results. Many came home last week to find constituents — preachers, school superintendents, churchgoing men and women — cheering on the effort rather than condemning it, according to multiple GOP lawmakers.

“Both parties have extremists,” said the GOP lawmaker. “There's a difference in our crazy people and their crazy people. Our crazy people have an excessive amount of arms. They have gun safes. They have grenades. They believe in the Second Amendment. They come here and Trump's made them think this is the Alamo.”

The fear of attacks on elected officials is real, and impacts the decisions they're making...

It's hard to feel sympathy when they indulged the far right for years for short term political gain.

Perhaps instead of pandering to their ammosexual, wingnut, far-right-through-Poland base, they should have done what responsible public officials, and parents, do; say no.

Very much a shocked Pikachu face moment.

[Eahland]

Left-wing hysterics with major media platforms have for years been shrieking that President Trump is about to install a fascist dictatorship any minute.

... and then President Trump incited an insurrection with the aim of overturning the legitimate results of the election and installing him as dictator. So, um, sounds like the hysterical left-wing shrieking was pretty on-target.

[Bombadil]

Well, putting a lot of people in prison is a form of totalitarianism. In this case, the USA is #1.

U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate

https://www.prb.org/us-incarceration/

Since 2002, the United States has had the highest incarceration rate in the world.

..because of the war on drugs and the right's incessant clamour to lock up poor people and minorities whereas I rarely see coke-snorting bankers going to jail..

[Kowani]

Welp
Good news first, and then the absolutely goddamn fucked shit
Verizon and Amazon are cutting off all lawmakers who voted to overturn the election.

The worrying stuff: Ex-Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times

The batshit "we're fucked" stuff

Capitol Police briefed Democrats on Monday night about three more potentially gruesome demonstrations planned in the coming days, with one plot to encircle the U.S. Capitol and assassinate Democrats and some Republicans.

On a private call Monday night, new leaders of the Capitol Police told House Democrats they were closely monitoring three separate plans that could pose serious threats to members of Congress as Washington prepares for Democrat Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration on Jan. 20.

The first is a demonstration billed as the “largest armed protest ever to take place on American soil.”

Another is a protest in honor of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed while trying to climb into the Speaker’s Lobby during Wednesday’s pro-Trump siege of the Capitol.

And another demonstration, which three members said was by far the most concerning plot, would involve insurrectionists forming a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, and then blocking Democrats from entering the Capitol ― perhaps even killing them ― so that Republicans could take control of the government.

The members of Congress whom HuffPost spoke to Monday night were extremely concerned by the call.

“It was pretty overwhelming,” one member said.

Officials on the call warned lawmakers about sharing too much information with the media, saying that divulging specific dates, times and countermeasures could aid the organizers of the plots. HuffPost is not disclosing certain information, such as who appears to be organizing these plots and when they are to take place.

One member was explicit that these groups were trying to get journalists to report on their demonstrations.

“Some of their main communications to organize these have been cut off, so they’re purposely trying to get the media to report on this as a way to further disseminate information and to attract additional support for their attacks,” this member said.

Democrats were told that the Capitol Police and the National Guard were preparing for potentially tens of thousands of armed protesters coming to Washington and were establishing rules of engagement for warfare. In general, the military and police don’t plan to shoot anyone until one of the rioters fires, but there could be exceptions.

Lawmakers were told that the plot to encircle the Capitol also included plans to surround the White House ― so that no one could harm Trump ― and the Supreme Court, simply to shut down the courts. The plan to surround the Capitol includes assassinating Democrats as well as Republicans who didn’t support Trump’s effort to overturn the election ― and allowing other Republicans to enter the building and control government.

All of these plots may never materialize. The Capitol Police have established a new perimeter with fencing and razor wire, and the National Guard has already been called in to help protect the Capitol and lawmakers.

But while Capitol Police assured members they were prepared for these terrorist plots, there was obvious concern from a number of lawmakers.

One topic of discussion was the need to put every member of Congress through a metal detector before the inauguration. A member on the call told HuffPost that there was an “eyes-wide-open realization” that Capitol Police needed to take precautions against “all these members who were in league with the insurrectionists who love to carry their guns.”

“You can’t just let them bypass security and walk right up to [Joe] Biden and [Kamala] Harris at inauguration,” this lawmaker told HuffPost.

Another area of concern was the Trump administration’s involvement in tamping down an insurrection. “I don’t think anyone has confidence that the folks at the Pentagon, that may or may not even be needed for some of this, or the Department of Homeland Security, where we don’t even know who’s in charge, are going to be cooperative,” one member told HuffPost.

One Democrat on the call also raised the issue of security for members coming from their residences to the Capitol, as well as traveling to Washington, given recent confrontations at airports and on flights between some protesters and lawmakers. One member who spoke to HuffPost said the Capitol Police didn’t have a satisfactory answer about that concern.

This member mentioned how the briefing had underscored the wisdom of Twitter suspending Trump’s account, as well as tens of thousands of accounts associated with the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon, and said the decision to cut off the social media platform Parler “looked a lot smarter” given the efforts to recruit armed extremists to come to the nation’s capital in the coming days.

“It’s a decision that might ultimately save lives,” this member said.

One of the lawmakers who spoke to HuffPost said members of Congress were all experiencing difficult reactions to the storming of the Capitol last week.

“Most of us are feeling that,” this Democrat said. “But we are also feeling that we don’t have time to indulge too much of it, that this is not about us, that it’s about a job that’s way bigger than us, and we are just going to suck it up and get through, and we’ll talk about how nutty it is on the other side.”

[Bombadil]

10 Biggest Scandals Of The Obama Presidency

https://listverse.com/2019/11/07/obama- ... -scandals/

I was like.. 'if Benghazi is in here I'm dismissing it'..

..sure enough.