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Senkaku
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:01 pm

Omniabstracta wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Because no one thinks he came up with it or pulled the trigger, because he's been under de facto house arrest for days after the whole of the rest of government has resorted to informally denying his authority to make up for the fact that no one seems to feel any terribly urgent need to formally remove him?

Well yeah, but if that’s the case then it’s Pence or somebody else actually usurping the constitutional powers of the President, unlike the DCNG mobilization from earlier, which is a hell of a bold step.

I mean, not necessarily. They probably did go through the steps of putting the paper on his desk and making him sign it; it's not like he was some super-hands-on, reading-heavy guy before all this, so I'm not sure it's really THAT much of a usurpation in their eyes, to them it probably doesn't feel that different from business as usual.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:01 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Sorry I have always made my views very clear, no point in making them more clear. But what I mean by my post is, all those things I am against. I don't mean it the way the way the question is asked.

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Yes, you have, you support treason.

No, I have condemned those persons who stormed the Capitol Building. I have supported the electoral college vote challenge by Republican President Trump and the Republican Senators and House Representatives who did:

Watch the video of Obama and Hillary Clinton, objecting to the electoral votes for President Bush during the 2000 election, while claiming Republican vote fraud. If they can do it and they did, than Republicans and Trump can do it too.

https://rumble.com/vcgml9-obama-and-hil ... -2005.html

President Trump never said commit violence. President Trump never said storm the Capitol Building.

We as in Trump supporters strongly disagree with you and the persons who strongly agree with you. It is called Democracy.

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Postby Nakena » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:02 pm

Heloin wrote:Go a day without reading your work emails and they’ll end up on NSG apparently. What the fuck...


There's no escape.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:03 pm

Nakena wrote:
Heloin wrote:Go a day without reading your work emails and they’ll end up on NSG apparently. What the fuck...


There's no escape.


Not for The Donald anyway. He's caught.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:03 pm

Nakena wrote:
Heloin wrote:Go a day without reading your work emails and they’ll end up on NSG apparently. What the fuck...


There's no escape.

I would prefer someone didn’t harass a manatee.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:03 pm

Due to the Trump insurrection; Bill Belichick decided to refuse the Medal of Freedom.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/wi ... m/2277351/
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:04 pm

Bombadil wrote:Just who the fuck are these people..

Federal wildlife officials in Florida are reportedly seeking information on the perpetrators of an attack on a manatee, which apparently had the word “Trump” scraped into its back.

The attack on the animal was reported by the Citrus County Chronicle, which showed a picture of the large aquatic mammal with the name of the US president clearly visible by being etched into its skin.

“The US Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the harassment of a manatee,” the paper said, adding that the manatee had been videoed in the Blue Hole spring, on the Homosassa River in the state.

There's a $5000 reward out for them
don't know why, I expect most people'd turn them in for free

i refuse to link footage of the actual damage done, but it is bad
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Due to the Trump insurrection; Bill Belichick decided to refuse the Medal of Freedom.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/wi ... m/2277351/

In the wake of current events, that medal probably seemed more like an anchor.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:04 pm

Heloin wrote:Go a day without reading your work emails and they’ll end up on NSG apparently. What the fuck...

Oh yeah your a park ranger in Florida right?
I do be tired


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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:05 pm

Kowani wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just who the fuck are these people..

Federal wildlife officials in Florida are reportedly seeking information on the perpetrators of an attack on a manatee, which apparently had the word “Trump” scraped into its back.

The attack on the animal was reported by the Citrus County Chronicle, which showed a picture of the large aquatic mammal with the name of the US president clearly visible by being etched into its skin.

“The US Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the harassment of a manatee,” the paper said, adding that the manatee had been videoed in the Blue Hole spring, on the Homosassa River in the state.

There's a $5000 reward out for them
don't know why, I expect most people'd turn them in for free

i refuse to link footage of the actual damage done, but it is bad

I wouldn’t even need a Klondike bar.
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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:05 pm

70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:05 pm

Kowani wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just who the fuck are these people..

Federal wildlife officials in Florida are reportedly seeking information on the perpetrators of an attack on a manatee, which apparently had the word “Trump” scraped into its back.

The attack on the animal was reported by the Citrus County Chronicle, which showed a picture of the large aquatic mammal with the name of the US president clearly visible by being etched into its skin.

“The US Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the harassment of a manatee,” the paper said, adding that the manatee had been videoed in the Blue Hole spring, on the Homosassa River in the state.

There's a $5000 reward out for them
don't know why, I expect most people'd turn them in for free

i refuse to link footage of the actual damage done, but it is bad


I'd be proud of most, but doesn't hurt to motivate the rest.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:05 pm

Andsed wrote:
Heloin wrote:Go a day without reading your work emails and they’ll end up on NSG apparently. What the fuck...

Oh yeah your a park ranger in Florida right?

Tomorrow’s meeting is going to be something.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:06 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Due to the Trump insurrection; Bill Belichick decided to refuse the Medal of Freedom.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/wi ... m/2277351/

ok, I will accept the Medal of Freedom with Pride and Honor from Republican President Trump. I really do want one. GMS.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:06 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users


I'm not expected to be sorry for them, I hope.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:07 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users

the lesson here is to invest in IT and not hope your opponents are as dumb as you are
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Senkaku
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:07 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Omniabstracta wrote:Well yeah, but if that’s the case then it’s Pence or somebody else actually usurping the constitutional powers of the President, unlike the DCNG mobilization from earlier, which is a hell of a bold step.


Well quite hence my initial ask as to the legal status of this, it's basically been radio silence for coming on to a week now.. is he just sulking like a baby and willingly letting people do any communications or is he being told what to say and do - as I understand it there's been zero conversations between Trump and Pence.

Is there really much of a functional difference? If he stepped back, humiliated, and was "letting" people do these communications, I'm pretty sure at this point no one would be willing to let him take full charge again; if he's being directed under a full-blown house arrest type situation then he's probably also sulking like a baby and pretending that he's a willing participant.

And Pelosi's call notwithstanding, can you refuse an order from your Commander in Chief?

Yes, you're allowed to refuse unconstitutional orders. Which I assume is the basis for whatever the hell the Joint Chiefs have been doing lately.

They really should do something to remove him from power pronto because the man is unstable.

Formally removing him would require effort and the investment of political capital, and stir the ire of the far-right mob. Much more convenient to simply pretend he doesn't exist for two weeks. What's the worst that could happen?
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:07 pm

Heloin wrote:
Andsed wrote:Oh yeah your a park ranger in Florida right?

Tomorrow’s meeting is going to be something.

Keep us updated on how the manatee is doing. :(
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Postby Omniabstracta » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users

It is disappointing that they didn’t reveal these security vulnerabilities responsibly, to be honest. Disclosure is always a tricky thing and under normal circumstances this is the worst way to do it (which an actual security researcher should know). Even when you’re claiming it’s for law enforcement purposes you can disclose it privately to them without purposefully creating a privacy breach yourself.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just who the fuck are these people..

Federal wildlife officials in Florida are reportedly seeking information on the perpetrators of an attack on a manatee, which apparently had the word “Trump” scraped into its back.

The attack on the animal was reported by the Citrus County Chronicle, which showed a picture of the large aquatic mammal with the name of the US president clearly visible by being etched into its skin.

“The US Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the harassment of a manatee,” the paper said, adding that the manatee had been videoed in the Blue Hole spring, on the Homosassa River in the state.

There's a $5000 reward out for them
don't know why, I expect most people'd turn them in for free

i refuse to link footage of the actual damage done, but it is bad

I just googled it to sate my morbid curiosity.... I dont know what I was expecting but I am not okay right now.

Heloin wrote:
Andsed wrote:Oh yeah your a park ranger in Florida right?

Tomorrow’s meeting is going to be something.

Best of luck to you guys figuring out which cunt did this.
I do be tired


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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:09 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Formally removing him would require effort and the investment of political capital, and stir the ire of the far-right mob. Much more convenient to simply pretend he doesn't exist for two weeks. What's the worst that could happen?


Narrator: "And then the worst happened."
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:09 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Heloin wrote:Tomorrow’s meeting is going to be something.

Keep us updated on how the manatee is doing. :(

I’ll try.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:10 pm

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:What's the worst that could happen?


That's a question that's been asked this past 4 years, and we've constantly been surprised.. so I just don't think we need the door left open for 'the worst that could happen'.
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Kexholm Karelia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:10 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users


I'm not expected to be sorry for them, I hope.

You think doxxing people is ok?
Omniabstracta wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

"Security Researchers" refers to hackers who’ve basically doxxed Parler users

It is disappointing that they didn’t reveal these security vulnerabilities responsibly, to be honest. Disclosure is always a tricky thing and under normal circumstances this is the worst way to do it (which an actual security researcher should know). Even when you’re claiming it’s for law enforcement purposes you can disclose it privately to them without purposefully creating a privacy breach yourself.

Yeah I saw this coming sooner or later, or at least an attempt, so I never posted any identifying info on Parler during my time there

You can’t discount the possibility that these "security researchers" had malicious intentions
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