American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[San Montalbano]

Right. Maybe she just wanted to be heard while there were hundreds of terrorists, some of them armed on the other side. Nothing bad could have happened if she got hold of one of the senators, I'm sure of that!

exactly

for you see, had one or more congresspeople died, they would've been committed by antifaa few, but they lived, so clearly they were no threat

and had they actually succeeded in their aim to kill everyone inside and give trump another four years or till he kills everyone else, whichever comes firstwhatever it was -- clearly we don't know at this point -- surely they wouldn't actually install trump as president, they'll accept biden succeeding him in office, because they're such good democrats who just want a little coupaccountability

the thing is...that didn't happen, your speculating.

[Bahia Roja]

George Floyd resisted physically with the Officers, the lady who was shot hadn't even touched them.

Cool, my point still stands.

If they say: "Back off or we're going to shoot!". It's very likely they will shoot if you don't back off. She didn't back off, so she got shot.

Just as if they say: "I can't breathe!". It's very likely they're not breathing correctly and are at risk of dying.

[Punished UMN]

Stop spreading conspiracy theories. Biden's far less of an authoritarian than Trump.

How is spreading a Hypothesis of an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan, formulated in secret by two or more persons, a bad thing?

Is this a sarcastic question?

[Thermodolia]

She was apart of a violent mob that was chanting for the deaths of elected officials and was rapidly moving in on the position of those elected officials. The officers at the time had no knowledge if she was armed. All they knew is that they had to use force to put down a hostile and non responsive individual.

It’s no different than if some woman was walking up to the FOB with something wrapped up and held tight and she refuses to cooperate. You have to make a decision right then and there to protect yourself and everyone else

if she was part of a violent mob those cops that were two feet behind her with AR-15's sure didn't seem to feel they were being over ran.

Have you ever been in a life or death situation? Have you ever had to worry about killing someone to protect everyone else? Because if you haven’t you will never understand what went down.

I’ve been trained that in situations like that it’s either me or the perp, and I’m not dying.

[Necroghastia]

The window was not the kind that opened. How do you get through a window that doesn't open? Hint: It's not a trick question and also, you know...we can see the fucking video so, ya know...

All i see is a guy in a suit murder a unarmed women who was mostly peacefully protesting.

what's peaceful about trying to climb up into the capitol building

[Picairn]

Stop spreading conspiracy theories. Biden's far less of an authoritarian than Trump.

How is spreading a Hypothesis of an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan, formulated in secret by two or more persons, a bad thing?

Next you will tell me how the Illuminati is real and Hillary operated a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza shop. No thanks, spare me your baseless conspiracy theories.

[San Montalbano]

She presented literally no threat to anyone, wanting to get into the room is not an indication she had any lethal intent.

maybe she just wanted to be heard in the hall of congress?

Welll there is this ability oh you know arrange a meeting with your officials. You don’t show up with a mob, smashing doors and windows, attacking guards with chants like hang Mike Pence. You don’t usually try to jump through a smashed window after the guards with guns warn you off.

The cops are supposed to be the professionals and to use the least amount of force possible, she was unarmed, they could have detained her if she came through.

[Luminesa]

Floyd did cooperate, and even if he didn't, the force exercised by the policeman was excessive.

Babblit did not cooperate, and she was warned that they would shoot if she didn't back off, she didn't back off, so they shot.

She presented literally no threat to anyone, wanting to get into the room is not an indication she had any lethal intent.

maybe she just wanted to be heard in the hall of congress?

I mean...Congress had been cleared of all Senators. Is she going to talk to Huey Long’s ghost?

“What say you, Huey of the Senate?”
“EVERY MAN A FLIPPING KING.”

[Cannot think of a name]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

[Tornado Queendom]

I think that the "Riots" had no real malicious intent. Just a way of getting the "Biden is unfit for office" message across.

oh yeah, planting bombs, erecting a gallows, trying to shoot and force their way into the rooms with the congresspeople, stealing sensitive personal tech
nothing malicious at all

We need to get the message across SOMEHOW! They didn't get it when a Glitch Happened, so we HAD to do this.
If they had just given the victories of the Glitchy software to Trump, it would've been no more rigged than how it ended up.

[San Montalbano]

if she was part of a violent mob those cops that were two feet behind her with AR-15's sure didn't seem to feel they were being over ran.

Have you ever been in a life or death situation? Have you ever had to worry about killing someone to protect everyone else? Because if you haven’t you will never understand what went down.

I’ve been trained that in situations like that it’s either me or the perp, and I’m not dying.

"when the looting starts the shooting starts" is that what your saying?

[Bahia Roja]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

Anonymity makes them feel stronger. I doubt they're as edgy in real life.

[Thermodolia]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

That requires work and actual thought though.

[The Black Forrest]

how the fuck do you climb through a closed window without smashing it

oh so now your saying she presented no immediate threat.

Hmmmm? Trying to jump through the smashed window after the guards with guns drawn kind of suggests she was a threat.

[Picairn]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

Or intentionally being dense and baiting people into anger.

[Kowani]

There's a lot of equivocating and picking at details on both sides right now, which is usually a symptom of trying to justify a double standard.

"Well, yes, but Group 1 did it in Location A, to Person B, after they were told to by Party C, and they clearly had Intent D. Group 2 was at Location Y, and they were targeting Person Z. Party C had nothing to do with it, and they hate Intent D! It's completely different!"

If you're going to sanction a form of political violence and attach an "if" or a "but" to it, you will be accused of hypocrisy and your accuser will almost certainly have a valid point. If you're not prepared to accept that, it's a bad position to take.

the america revolution and the beer hall putsch are not equivalent at all, yet both are political violence
the reason you do things and the end goal of why you do them matters

[Punished UMN]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

I have a personality, it's awful, wouldn't want to post about it here.

[Diahon]

exactly

for you see, had one or more congresspeople died, they would've been committed by antifaa few, but they lived, so clearly they were no threat

and had they actually succeeded in their aim to kill everyone inside and give trump another four years or till he kills everyone else, whichever comes firstwhatever it was -- clearly we don't know at this point -- surely they wouldn't actually install trump as president, they'll accept biden succeeding him in office, because they're such good democrats who just want a little coupaccountability

the thing is...that didn't happen, your speculating.

it totally did not happen, i agree! no videos, audios, selfies, shot from multiple angles, recorded by the insurrectionists themselves! and if there were any evidence, i'm sure they're just a few bad apples!

[Cannot think of a name]

How is spreading a Hypothesis of an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan, formulated in secret by two or more persons, a bad thing?

Is this a sarcastic question?

Yes. These are all responses designed to provoke for the sake of provocation. They're not even particularly trying hard at this point because the fishing is so good. Granted, it's because this kind of internet shenanigans is tone deaf as fuck, but that's their milieu.

[San Montalbano]

oh so now your saying she presented no immediate threat.

Hmmmm? Trying to jump through the smashed window after the guards with guns drawn kind of suggests she was a threat.

Not really, it implies she was trying to get in. If police find someone breaking into a window they aren't legally allowed to just kill them.

and they can't use the excuse of "she was armed" because she was not and incapable of even a holding a weapon while climbing.

[Bahia Roja]

We need to get the message across SOMEHOW! They didn't get it when a Glitch Happened, so we HAD to do this.
If they had just given the victories of the Glitchy software to Trump, it would've been no more rigged than how it ended up.

We'll fight off an authoritarian regime by... uhh... injuring political opponents when they're presiding over a democratic process so that our leader can stay in power for four more years!

[Tornado Queendom]

How is spreading a Hypothesis of an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan, formulated in secret by two or more persons, a bad thing?

Next you will tell me how the Illuminati is real and Hillary operated a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza shop. No thanks, spare me your baseless conspiracy theories.

How do you know the Illuminati isn't real? YOU might be part of the Illuminati. I might be part of the Illuminati. I think it has nothing to do with Global domination, but it's a state of being.
As for the Pizzagate thing, I'm still investigating. Even if I don't find Hillary, I'm probably gonna find some other child molester linked to the place. Or another Pizza Place in America.

[San Montalbano]

the thing is...that didn't happen, your speculating.

it totally did not happen, i agree! no videos, audios, selfies, shot from multiple angles, recorded by the insurrectionists themselves! and if there were any evidence, i'm sure they're just a few bad apples!

Correct, some bad apples.

[Xanthal]

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

Anonymity makes them feel stronger. I doubt they're as edgy in real life.

I love to role-play too, but there's a word for when you start mistaking real life for the fantasy. It's psychosis.

[Kowani]

how the fuck do you climb through a closed window without smashing it

oh so now your saying she presented no immediate threat.

have you
not seen the video
they were going after the vice-president

I wish people would just develop a personality instead of trying to be edgy on the internet.

I have a personality, it's awful, wouldn't want to post about it here.

your personality is not awful