American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Rusozak]

Satire Twitter account springs up under Donald Trump's pseudonym after ban

Donald Trump has been banned from Twitter, but "Not Donald Trump" is quickly gaining followers with its freshly created account.

An apparent satire account has sprung up under the name of 'John Barron' - an old pseudonym Trump used through the '80s.

Complete with a description clarifying the account is "Not Donald Trump", the profile picture contains an image almost identical to the one on Trump's original page.

The only difference is that 'John Barron' has a fake mustache.

'John Barron' has made one tweet so far: "Hello I am brand new to Twitter, what are you guys up to."

The account has been active for just over an hour at the time of publishing and has more than 52,000 followers.

On the profile it lists Krister Johnson as his "publicist", an Emmy-winning writer and producer in the US.

I bet a lot of Trumpers think it's really him. Now's the time to steer the crowd.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Such are the ways of the Easterners.

Dude i am greek.

I understand..

[Glorious Hong Kong]

This will hurt the conservative movement for a long time, Trump is acting like a Latin American demagouge such as Maduro

If by "this", you mean the insurrection, it definitely will.

If by "this", you mean the potential death of the Trump wing, take it as an opportunity for conservatism. Trump himself doesn't give a shit about anything unless it makes people like him, and considering the devoted Trumpists' propensity for projection, they're not consistent in their beliefs either. Maybe now you'll get people genuinely dedicated to conservatism.

I'd like to see moderates in both parties defect to form a new centrist party capable of denying the two main parties a majority in Congress and holding the balance of power. But for now, I have more sympathy for moderate Republicans who reject Donald Trump. Be warned that legitimate grievances must be addressed and identity politics must be rejected or the same shit will keep happening again and again no matter whether the president is a right-wing or left-wing demagogue. Not everyone who voted for Trump believes in QAnon, Stop The Steal, anti-vax, anti-masking, or any of that crazy conspiracy nonsense, if the poll is any indication. Note, however, that it is also possible to condemn the coup attempt at Capitol Hill and still be a Trump supporter, mental gymnastics permitting.

The behavior of Trump's most hardcore acolytes appears to have deteriorated significantly in recent weeks to their own detriment. Once upon a time, they were the tolerant, peaceful ones willing to have a civil discussion with their political opponents vs screaming SJWs on the Left. Many moderates on the Right still are. Now, the Right has come full circle.

I never thought I would agree with Trump's permanent removal from Twitter given he actually incited real violence and endangered lives both online and especially offline in recent days. I would've decried it just last week. Besides, he already has a huge public profile and so does Parler. Even if Apple and Google remove the Parler app from their stores, their site can still be accessed via the browser. Normally, I would conclude that banning extremists from mainstream platforms would simply drive them toward their own echo chambers where they can plan further acts of violence, but given the violence that has already occurred, I think the benefits significantly outweigh the risks. He did this to himself.

Just as mob violence turned me against BLM, mob violence has turned me against Donald Trump. If you want my support, don't be violent.

More censorship coming next week. Anything not in line with DNC will be BANNED from all US social media. Make my words.

I fear you may be right. Donald Trump is just the excuse Big Tech and MSM need to enact their anti-free speech agenda. There's bound to be an overly broad and indiscriminate Great Purge Erdogan-style. Numerous conservative and centrist users have already reported huge drops in follower counts. The decision to ban Trump is being hotly debated with Sam Harris in favor and Dave Rubin and Melissa Chen coming out against it, and they both make a fair point. Trump is absolutely guilty of incitement and I support his removal from the platform, but I equally condemn the broader, indiscriminate purge of conservatives that has been initiated by the SJWs at Big Tech at the behest of the authoritarian, anti-free speech DNC. Both of these can be true at once. Erdogan seized absolute control of Turkey and silenced all opposition in response to a legitimate coup attempt against him.

The Left now has complete control of the executive and legislative branches of the U.S. government and a golden opportunity to stamp out all forms of legitimate, non-violent, online dissent, breeding further hatred and resentment. Who's going to stand up to them now? When is Twitter going to ban the CCP-linked accounts of CGTN, Chen Weihua, Lijian Zhao, and Hua Chunying, shilling for a country where Twitter is banned? And with Trump soon to be out of office and Biden to be inaugurated, who will the Left's next scapegoat be?

People are beginning to share their favourite Trump tweets on Twitter.. personally I don't think anything beats 'cofveve' but hey, let us reminisce in the twilight of his reign..

I think they should've left his past tweets up for research and posterity. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

So you people who think i am a freakin basket case or a trumpette. lol.

Just going to say this, if you think this big tech censorship wave isnt going to set precedents for the future and other "undesireable" political movements you're terribly wrong.

Next time theres maybe some kind of hunger revolt or shit going on, you'd be using TOR and Darknet.

Mark my words.

Here's the thing, big tech =/= the government. Private corporations can choose who they want on their platforms and in their businesses. I know you're not a right-winger, but that is often a right-wing talking point when it comes to all those stupid "someone denied service again at (X)" threads. And, I hate to say it, but that talking point is based in fact.

But when conservatives cry foul that their free speech is being taken away, it isn't. Corporations, legally, cannot alter free speech. It might be a bad precedent, hell it might even be something to watch out for. But the US Government isn't doing this, companies are. And other companies, like Parler, can take their place.

See, that's really what scares me. I'm glad, for a myriad of reasons, that Trump is off Twitter. He incites violence, spreads patent misinformation, spreads everything that is wrong. As do most of his allies on social media. But on Parler? That is a helluva lot harder to keep an eye on, to keep tabs on, to meaningfully look out for those who should be on a watchlist.

There is a whole subreddit dedicated to profiling all the violent, insane and illegal shit said on Parler. My worry is that as those alternative platforms expand, it'll be harder to weed out who is just talking out their ass and who is committed to violent actions and recourse. In that regard, and just that regard, Twitter might have seriously fucked up.

Big Tech is an arm of the DNC, the U.S. government is the Democratic Party (from Jan. 20), and Joe Biden is the Democratic Party (his words). I hope you're wrong about Twitter fucking up. Only time will tell. If Trump's removal from Twitter actually makes things a whole lot worse, I'm prepared to eat my words, because free speech is very important to me. But for now, I believe the policy should be one of never caving to extremists and showing some muscle.

So, question. Why have we allowed companies, especially ones such as Google who are literally funded by the government (which is already a big yikes), to control and manipulate who can say what, when, and where? Why is everyone seemingly okay with them having that much control? Outside of outright illegal things, they should not be allowed to censor opinions, no matter how obnoxious, irreverent, or obscene. This is not okay whatsoever.

IMO, spreading lies and misinformation on social media platforms should be permitted, but inciting violence shouldn't be. Twitter acted against Trump after the violence at Capitol Hill. This was a purely reactive decision. But the coming mass purge of conservatives and un-PC centrists for wrongthink is one that should terrify any thinking person.

[Xanthal]

I'm confused. TDW wants social media to stop censoring them, but they also want to strip its owners of their liability shield. These would appear to be contradictory goals. Or am I failing to understand something?

[The Alma Mater]

People are beginning to share their favourite Trump tweets on Twitter.. personally I don't think anything beats 'cofveve' but hey, let us reminisce in the twilight of his reign..

I like his many tweets on how a president that plays golf all the time, especially during a pandemic, is unfit for the job.

[The Alma Mater]

I'm confused. TDW wants social media to stop censoring them, but they also want to strip its owners of their liability shield. These would appear to be contradictory goals. Or am I failing to understand something?

They probably are assuming that rules will not apply to them.

[Kowani]

I'm confused. TDW wants social media to stop censoring them, but they also want to strip its owners of their liability shield. These would appear to be contradictory goals. Or am I failing to understand something?

simple: They don't know what Section 230 does, so they think it's what lets social media companies censor them

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

How the low end of the UK tabloid press see Trump and the US

[The Alma Mater]

IMO, spreading lies and misinformation on social media platforms should be permitted, but inciting violence shouldn't be.

Why do you believe the two are different ? Nonstop convincing people they are being wronged will at some point inspire them to take action. Making people believe they live in an alternative society with alternative facts HARMS the real society.

[Danternoust]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

[Vassenor]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

So where were all those people getting the idea the election was stolen from?

[Czechostan]

IMO, spreading lies and misinformation on social media platforms should be permitted, but inciting violence shouldn't be.

Why do you believe the two are different ? Nonstop convincing people they are being wronged will at some point inspire them to take action. Making people believe they live in an alternative society with alternative facts HARMS the real society.

Indeed. It's like NS's hardline policy against COVID misinformation. If you say something like "you don't need to wear a mask in public" or "the vaccines are a government ploy to control us," you can claim your right to free speech but your words can still have harmful, in fact deadly, consequences.

Which of course leads to the deadly slippery slope of "who should regulate what's true and what's not?" and do we really want that, which is why I'm iffy about Twitter trying to step into this role.

[The Alma Mater]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

If you join parler, you can follow the thought processes of Trump supporters step by step.
You can also marvel at their ability to completely forget what they said 10 days earlier. Orwell would have been proud.

[Kowani]

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) says he would "consider" impeachment articles

[Danternoust]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

So where were all those people getting the idea the election was stolen from?

So...
1. Trump Tweets
2. Discord Group
3. ???
4. Profit!

[Vassenor]

So where were all those people getting the idea the election was stolen from?

So...
1. Trump Tweets
2. Discord Group
3. ???
4. Profit!

Why does there need to be a Discord Group for people to get the impression that the election was stolen based on Trump's tweets where he repeatedly said the election was being stolen and people needed to take action to stop it being stolen?

[WayNeacTia]

I'd like to see moderates in both parties defect to form a new centrist party capable of denying the two main parties a majority in Congress and holding the balance of power.

Ross Perrot tried that already.

[Shrillland]

So where were all those people getting the idea the election was stolen from?

So...
1. Trump Tweets
2. Discord Group
3. ???
4. Profit!

Not quite. This has been coming for a long time. Trump was merely the rash, the visible physical symptom of America's sickness caused by misinformation that's been 40 years in the making, since the dawn of talk radio shock jocks making ultra-right talking points and gaslighting their fans into thinking everybody but they and their friends in their media was lying to them.

[Vassenor]

I'd like to see moderates in both parties defect to form a new centrist party capable of denying the two main parties a majority in Congress and holding the balance of power.

China thanks you for advocating for paralysing the US government's ability to respond to their actions.

[Vassenor]

Also, to anyone complaining about a private media company kicking Trump off their platform:

Think of Twitter as a Christian bakery and Trump as a gay wedding cake.

[Kowani]

clear video of police letting the Trump supporters into the Capitol

"i disagree with it, but I respect the decision"

[New yugoslavaia]

I'd like to see moderates in both parties defect to form a new centrist party capable of denying the two main parties a majority in Congress and holding the balance of power.

China thanks you for advocating for paralysing the US government's ability to respond to their actions.

Coming from him...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfaow5PEZ90

[Myrensis]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

If you join parler, you can follow the thought processes of Trump supporters step by step.
You can also marvel at their ability to completely forget what they said 10 days earlier. Orwell would have been proud.

Speaking of Parler and the "thought" processes of Trump supporters:

And yes, you can go to her Parler and check it out, this is absolutely a real thing that is happening.

[Xanthal]

Also, to anyone complaining about a private media company kicking Trump off their platform:

Think of Twitter as a Christian bakery and Trump as a gay wedding cake.

I have yet to register much success with that line of argument. I swear to god, 90% of people who spout off about freedom of speech have some weird mental block about it being a two-way street. Same thing with religious freedom.

[Jedi Council]

I use Trump's tweets as an alternative source of information, and I don't see how one could go from reading his tweets to invading the capitol.

Is there a discord group I'm not privy to?

I hope you are being satirical because if not then you need to get out more