American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Gravlen]

(Honestly asking) if this were a failed coup by Trump and his supporters at the Pentagon I don’t understand wtf they were expecting to happen? These aren’t dumb people; life is not a video game such that if eg counting of electoral votes is interrupted by outside events then power just returns to the incumbent — the interruption of the counting was a symbolic, even theatrical, act, which is basically the opposite of what coups are (intensely secret, to do with power and violence). Is the working assumption that there was something going on concurrently behind the scenes? Or are we really meant to think their planned coup was just to stop the counting of some ballots?

There's one statement I've found perfectly describes the Trump era, and I've used it repeatedly:

What you have to understand is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

[Kexholm Karelia]

I like this, floating around the net currently:

Imagine spending the better part of the last 5 years having your brain and ego melted by uninterrupted /pol/ exposure, flying to Washington in the middle of a pandemic to hear trump whine about Oprah and Mike Pence at a rally, marching up to congress on his orders to smash shit and then mill around aimlessly.

You start thinking about going home but hear that Biden won anyway and all of your favorite twitter news sources named like Patriot Newsman Of the West with avatars of roman statues have posted your photo online and are labeling you a "gay communist antifa actor." Then the next day the god emperor you pasted into warhammer memes puts out a video cucking himself and bending the knee. "I'm sorry, those were heinous acts! P-please let me tweet again jack!!" You can't leave DC because the airlines have dubbed you a flight risk. You can't stay because the cops are actively looking for you after one of their own died. Your roommate at the only hotel that would accept you is a guy named based_kekistani1488 who wants to show you his goblin slayer torrents. The sun is going down and you're getting cold.

No one does that, if I would bet, I’d assume most of the people at the storming were poor rural people, which form most of Trump’s base

[New haven america]

I like this, floating around the net currently:

Imagine spending the better part of the last 5 years having your brain and ego melted by uninterrupted /pol/ exposure, flying to Washington in the middle of a pandemic to hear trump whine about Oprah and Mike Pence at a rally, marching up to congress on his orders to smash shit and then mill around aimlessly.

You start thinking about going home but hear that Biden won anyway and all of your favorite twitter news sources named like Patriot Newsman Of the West with avatars of roman statues have posted your photo online and are labeling you a "gay communist antifa actor." Then the next day the god emperor you pasted into warhammer memes puts out a video cucking himself and bending the knee. "I'm sorry, those were heinous acts! P-please let me tweet again jack!!" You can't leave DC because the airlines have dubbed you a flight risk. You can't stay because the cops are actively looking for you after one of their own died. Your roommate at the only hotel that would accept you is a guy named based_kekistani1488 who wants to show you his goblin slayer torrents. The sun is going down and you're getting cold.

No one does that, if I would bet, I’d assume most of the people at the storming were poor rural people, which form most of Trump’s base

So says the person who does exactly that.

Except for the DC part because international travel is restricted.

[Thanatttynia]

(Honestly asking) if this were a failed coup by Trump and his supporters at the Pentagon I don’t understand wtf they were expecting to happen? These aren’t dumb people; life is not a video game such that if eg counting of electoral votes is interrupted by outside events then power just returns to the incumbent — the interruption of the counting was a symbolic, even theatrical, act, which is basically the opposite of what coups are (intensely secret, to do with power and violence). Is the working assumption that there was something going on concurrently behind the scenes? Or are we really meant to think their planned coup was just to stop the counting of some ballots?

I don’t think there has to be anything more conspiratorial in it than: Trump thought inciting a riot outside the Capitol would scare electors into voting differently.

Okay, I can buy that until we know more. Thanks!

(Honestly asking) if this were a failed coup by Trump and his supporters at the Pentagon I don’t understand wtf they were expecting to happen? These aren’t dumb people; life is not a video game such that if eg counting of electoral votes is interrupted by outside events then power just returns to the incumbent — the interruption of the counting was a symbolic, even theatrical, act, which is basically the opposite of what coups are (intensely secret, to do with power and violence). Is the working assumption that there was something going on concurrently behind the scenes? Or are we really meant to think their planned coup was just to stop the counting of some ballots?

There's one statement I've found perfectly describes the Trump era, and I've used it repeatedly:

What you have to understand is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Lol, it would fit with his presidential style seeming to have been “accidental” since he got into office.

But all those officials that would have to be involved? Or is executive power really so streamlined that this might have been the decision of a handful of people? If so that seems like an oversight

[Agarntrop]

(Honestly asking) if this were a failed coup by Trump and his supporters at the Pentagon I don’t understand wtf they were expecting to happen? These aren’t dumb people; life is not a video game such that if eg counting of electoral votes is interrupted by outside events then power just returns to the incumbent — the interruption of the counting was a symbolic, even theatrical, act, which is basically the opposite of what coups are (intensely secret, to do with power and violence). Is the working assumption that there was something going on concurrently behind the scenes? Or are we really meant to think their planned coup was just to stop the counting of some ballots?

There's one statement I've found perfectly describes the Trump era, and I've used it repeatedly:

What you have to understand is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

The thing is, Trump has always committed his crimes in plain sight.

[Phoenicaea]

^intellectually, i find the matter hinders behind words usage . what does even ‘populism’, or ‘elitism’, mean? there is quite an accurate path of stages, diving toward the bottom.

for elects, stages mean from too complacency, to feeble thoughts, to lackustre words, to lower compromise, to corruption, to regime. for voters, it means from inadequacy to being an echo chamber.

an u.n. backed commission panel studied few corporations handle medias, compared to previous decades. the aim of said ‘trusts’ media coverage is to ‘impede a truely informed public debate’, it concluded.

besides, what does even ‘sjw’ mean?

[Agarntrop]

^intellectually, i find the matter hinders behind words usage . what does even ‘populism’, or ‘elitism’, mean? there is quite an accurate path of stages, diving toward the bottom.

for elects, stages mean from too complacency, to feeble thoughts, to lackustre words, to lower compromise, to corruption, to regime. for voters, it means from inadequacy to being an echo chamber.

an u.n. backed commission panel studied few corporations handle medias, compared to previous decades. the aim of said ‘trusts’ media coverage is to ‘impede an informed public debate’, it concluded.

besides, what does even ‘sjw’ mean?

[New haven america]

^intellectually, i find the matter hinders behind words usage . what does even ‘populism’, or ‘elitism’, mean? there is quite an accurate path of stages.

an u.n. backed commission studied few corporations handle medias, compared to previous decades.

for elects, stages mean from too complacency, to feeble thoughts, to lackustre words, to lower compromise, to corruption, to regime. for voters, it means from inadequacy to being an echo chamber.

the aim of said ‘trusts’ media coverage is to ‘impede an informed public debate’.

besides, what does ‘sjw’ means?

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

[Borderlands of Rojava]

(Honestly asking) if this were a failed coup by Trump and his supporters at the Pentagon I don’t understand wtf they were expecting to happen? These aren’t dumb people; life is not a video game such that if eg counting of electoral votes is interrupted by outside events then power just returns to the incumbent — the interruption of the counting was a symbolic, even theatrical, act, which is basically the opposite of what coups are (intensely secret, to do with power and violence). Is the working assumption that there was something going on concurrently behind the scenes? Or are we really meant to think their planned coup was just to stop the counting of some ballots?

There's one statement I've found perfectly describes the Trump era, and I've used it repeatedly:

What you have to understand is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Trump isn't a complete dictator right now because he's too stupid to know how to do it. Don't assume this proved the strength of our system because if anything, the fact a guy who thinks bigly is a word and a bunch of 4channers came this close to overthrowing our government is a sign the checks and balances aren't so strong.

[Thermodolia]

The Capitol Police Officer who was struck in the head has been confirmed as having died

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it will be investigated as a homicide

I just gotta say that Sicknick is a badass last name and is most likely not pronounced how I think it is

[Xanthal]

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

With respect, your definitions could use some work. Especially the one for "populism," which is at best only tangentially correct.

[New haven america]

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

With respect, your definitions could use some work. Especially the one for "populism," which is at best only tangentially correct.

Nope, that is the dictionary definition of populism.

You can look it, Google, Bing, Webster's, etc...

[Washington Resistance Army]

^intellectually, i find the matter hinders behind words usage . what does even ‘populism’, or ‘elitism’, mean? there is quite an accurate path of stages.

an u.n. backed commission studied few corporations handle medias, compared to previous decades.

for elects, stages mean from too complacency, to feeble thoughts, to lackustre words, to lower compromise, to corruption, to regime. for voters, it means from inadequacy to being an echo chamber.

the aim of said ‘trusts’ media coverage is to ‘impede an informed public debate’.

besides, what does ‘sjw’ means?

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

The Yugoslav Wars were caused by centuries long ethnic tensions brought to a boil by a collapsing political and economic system lol

[Thermodolia]

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

The Yugoslav Wars were caused by centuries long ethnic tensions brought to a boil by a collapsing political and economic system lol

Ya the only reason Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did was because of Tito. After he passed it wasn’t long before the entire thing fell apart

[Loben III]

Populism: Support or concern for the ordinary people. Can be used by both sides but when used by Right-Wingers it tends to lead to social or economic destruction. (The Yugoslav Wars were caused by Populist leaders for example)
Elitism: Feeling and behavior of superiority due to wealth, education, social standing, etc...
SWJ: Social Justice Warrior-Someone who fights for social justice, which means opposing racism, sexism, classism, etc... Has horseshoed on itself though and ended up becoming racist, sexist, classist, etc...

The Yugoslav Wars were caused by centuries long ethnic tensions brought to a boil by a collapsing political and economic system lol

Wars are caused by things I don’t like.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The Yugoslav Wars were caused by centuries long ethnic tensions brought to a boil by a collapsing political and economic system lol

Ya the only reason Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did was because of Tito. After he passed it wasn’t long before the entire thing fell apart

Yup. Him being half Slovene and half Croat also helped.

[Thermodolia]

Ya the only reason Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did was because of Tito. After he passed it wasn’t long before the entire thing fell apart

Yup. Him being half Slovene and half Croat also helped.

The only way Yugoslavia would have survived is if they pulled a DRPK and made one of Tito’s relatives the leader

[Irona]

With respect, your definitions could use some work. Especially the one for "populism," which is at best only tangentially correct.

Nope, that is the dictionary definition of populism.

You can look it, Google, Bing, Webster's, etc...

That definition could include every politician on the planet, so I think for us it’s more useful to narrow it like political scientists do.

[New haven america]

The Yugoslav Wars were caused by centuries long ethnic tensions brought to a boil by a collapsing political and economic system lol

Ya the only reason Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did was because of Tito. After he passed it wasn’t long before the entire thing fell apart

Generally caused by the populist leaders of Serbia, Croatia, etc... stirring up tensions in the country.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Confederate army still taking L's in 2020

[New haven america]

Nope, that is the dictionary definition of populism.

You can look it, Google, Bing, Webster's, etc...

That definition could include every politician on the planet, so I think for us it’s more useful to narrow it like political scientists do.

Yes, that is correct.

Populism isn't a new thing, it's been around for centuries.

[Thermodolia]

Ya the only reason Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did was because of Tito. After he passed it wasn’t long before the entire thing fell apart

Generally caused by the populist leaders of Serbia, Croatia, etc... stirring up tensions in the country.

Not really no. It wasn’t populism that caused the breakup but ethnic tensions and the fact that communism was coming down everywhere.

In a lot of places it was ethnic nationalism and not populism that gave rise to the tensions

[New haven america]

Generally caused by the populist leaders of Serbia, Croatia, etc... stirring up tensions in the country.

Not really no. It wasn’t populism that caused the breakup but ethnic tensions and the fact that communism was coming down everywhere.

In a lot of places it was ethnic nationalism and not populism that gave rise to the tensions

Yes, populism was in fact part of the break up.

Actions such as Milosevic deciding to go to Kosovo and publicly declare that he sides with Kosovan Serbs is very much a populist move.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Confederate army still taking L's in 2020

Real Sherman energy in that video.

[Thermodolia]

Confederate army still taking L's in 2020

DC Metro doesn’t fuck around.

Though it’s interesting how a guy in the background started chanting BLM after they most definitely didn’t during the summer. I guess once the police are against you ya change