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Oh please she's a friend to dictators worldwide and a war hawk. Nikki Haley needs to retire already and become part of history like Dick Cheney.
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Postby Xanthal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:46 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:law=/=morality. The only laws i respect are ones that match with my moral code.

That sounds noble until you think about it for five seconds. Only respecting the laws they agreed with is precisely what yesterday's mob was doing.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 pm

Xanthal wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:law=/=morality. The only laws i respect are ones that match with my moral code.

That sounds noble until you think about it for five seconds. Only respecting the laws they agreed with is precisely what yesterday's mob was doing.


I think there are certain common sense moral beliefs that make good laws, like for example laws against murder.

Victimless crimes are bullshit though, and serve no good purpose. I believe in laws that protect peoples lives and safety, and that's it.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 pm

Xanthal wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:law=/=morality. The only laws i respect are ones that match with my moral code.

That sounds noble until you think about it for five seconds. Only respecting the laws they agreed with is precisely what yesterday's mob was doing.

In some ways, I agree. Civil disobedience is a powerful tool and a strong form of direct action. In more extreme/egregious cases, stronger action is justified. I have nothing but respect for John Brown.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


Cool. Remove his ass now.


Yes, lets add even more fuel to this fire instead of just letting his laughable short amount of time remaining in office naturally expire.

Whats the worst that can happen, right?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:49 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cool. Remove his ass now.


Yes, lets add even more fuel to this fire instead of just letting his laughable short amount of time remaining in office naturally expire.

Whats the worst that can happen, right?


You're kidding yourself if you think he can't do more damage if he's left in power.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:50 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cool. Remove his ass now.


Yes, lets add even more fuel to this fire instead of just letting his laughable short amount of time remaining in office naturally expire.

Whats the worst that can happen, right?


I'm sorry, you don't let someone get away with inciting domestic terrorism because it'll upset some domestic terrorists.

Get him the fuck out.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:50 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Yes, lets add even more fuel to this fire instead of just letting his laughable short amount of time remaining in office naturally expire.

Whats the worst that can happen, right?


You're kidding yourself if you think he can't do more damage if he's left in power.


At this point, there really isn't much he could do even if he wanted.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:50 pm

Bombadil wrote:Elsewhere the Wall Street Journal, seen as a leading voice of the Republican establishment, also called on Trump to vacate his office.

In a Thursday evening editorial, the paper called on the president to resign rather than face impeachment or a forced removal under the 25th amendment.

“This was an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election,” the paper’s editorial board wrote of Trump’s actions on Wednesday. “It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.”


Impeached or resignation, taking all bets..

Trump?

Resign?
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:51 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cool. Remove his ass now.


Yes, lets add even more fuel to this fire instead of just letting his laughable short amount of time remaining in office naturally expire.

Whats the worst that can happen, right?


Letting him stay while he's going all "Samson Equation" on us is just as bad. We're damned no matter what path we take, so, to paraphrase Serenity, "If we can't do something smart, let's do something right."
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Postby Omniabstracta » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:51 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Elsewhere the Wall Street Journal, seen as a leading voice of the Republican establishment, also called on Trump to vacate his office.

In a Thursday evening editorial, the paper called on the president to resign rather than face impeachment or a forced removal under the 25th amendment.

“This was an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election,” the paper’s editorial board wrote of Trump’s actions on Wednesday. “It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.”


Impeached or resignation, taking all bets..

Trump?

Resign?

He half-conceded today, after a bold move like that annnyyything is possible :roll:
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:52 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
You're kidding yourself if you think he can't do more damage if he's left in power.


At this point, there really isn't much he could do even if he wanted.

Lol true
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:52 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Elsewhere the Wall Street Journal, seen as a leading voice of the Republican establishment, also called on Trump to vacate his office.

In a Thursday evening editorial, the paper called on the president to resign rather than face impeachment or a forced removal under the 25th amendment.

“This was an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election,” the paper’s editorial board wrote of Trump’s actions on Wednesday. “It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.”


Impeached or resignation, taking all bets..

Trump?

Resign?


I know right, personally I don't want him to resign, I want the ignominy of his being frogmarched out of the White House.
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Postby Miku the Based » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:53 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:our democratic institutions

United States institutions have never been "democratic", it has always been a oligarchy and never represented the people.
needs to be firmly suppressed.

really let the mask off eh.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:It’s funnier how the ACAB crowd is pro police now


It’s funny how the ACAB crowd understands not all police are the same.

Lol do you know what ACAB stands for?
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Postby Deacarsia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:55 pm

Yesterday was the awesome.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:55 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It’s funny how the ACAB crowd understands not all police are the same.

Lol do you know what ACAB stands for?


Do you, because if you did you'd be clear that they're not pro police now.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:56 pm

Deacarsia wrote:Yesterday was the awesome.


What part you enjoyed the most?

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:57 pm

Omniabstracta wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Trump?

Resign?

He half-conceded today, after a bold move like that annnyyything is possible :roll:

A half-concession is half of a concession more than I expected from him, to be honest.

Bombadil wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Trump?

Resign?


I know right, personally I don't want him to resign, I want the ignominy of his being frogmarched out of the White House.

That might rile up his supporters more than him resigning early...although that would rile them up as well.

Deacarsia wrote:Yesterday was the awesome.

eh
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Postby Loben III » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:05 pm

Nakena wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:Yesterday was the awesome.


What part you enjoyed the most?


entering the capital was the high water mark imo
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