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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 pm

Celestial Wave wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:I think this is a political ploy from the Dems, a symbolic gesture to their base, I don’t think they’re dumb enough to actually pursue impeachment

He should have been impeached earlier though. He has committed several crimes over the course of his presidency.

He’s already impeached
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, so they played some of Pelosi's speech. The threat of impeachment was if the cabinet doesn't remove Trump, she will.

It’s literally less than a month until he goes out anyways lol

Being a shorttimer shouldn't be a shield for consequences of one's actions.
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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:42 pm

national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:42 pm

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Postby Istoreya » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:42 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, so they played some of Pelosi's speech. The threat of impeachment was if the cabinet doesn't remove Trump, she will.

It’s literally less than a month until he goes out anyways lol

Impeaching him again will prevent him from running in 2024 though, won't it? And he's certainly implied he intends to.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:43 pm

Celestial Wave wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:I think this is a political ploy from the Dems, a symbolic gesture to their base, I don’t think they’re dumb enough to actually pursue impeachment

He should have been impeached earlier though. He has committed several crimes over the course of his presidency.

He was, but now a bunch of "we didn't see it coming" Republicans thought he learned his lesson and didn't convict.
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:43 pm

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"The confederate flag, which never reached the Capital during the Civil War, made it to those hallowed halls under your watch."

OUCH.

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Postby Celestial Wave » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:It’s literally less than a month until he goes out anyways lol

Impeaching him again will prevent him from running in 2024 though, won't it? And he's certainly implied he intends to.

He has? Even if he does run I don't think he would get the Republican nomination again.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 pm

Nazeroth wrote:national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

Expansion of the supreme court and abolishment of the electoral college

Lol, no
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Kowani wrote:Is this about the guy who had the Dishonored hand tattoo ?


I don't know where she got the idea from. She listens to a lot of Republican sorts of speakers.

I love her, of course, and she's a great woman in a lot of ways. But she's not the most politically savvy person in the world.

Also, apparently Dishonored is antifa confirmed?

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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:45 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)


"The confederate flag, which never reached the Capital during the Civil War, made it to those hallowed halls under your watch."

OUCH.


anyone with a flag other than the united states is displaying treasonous activity and should be arrested, this nation has no place for traitors like the confederates.
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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:45 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

Expansion of the supreme court and abolishment of the electoral college

Lol, no


Yes, it's the only way to ensure the saftey of the people from extremism, also, FBI needs WAY more power.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:45 pm

Nakena wrote:Some title suggestions:

"A Capitol Storm"

"Twilight of Trumpland"

"The Great Wall of Washington DC"


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Postby Celestial Wave » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:45 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
"The confederate flag, which never reached the Capital during the Civil War, made it to those hallowed halls under your watch."

OUCH.


anyone with a flag other than the united states is displaying treasonous activity and should be arrested, this nation has no place for traitors like the confederates.

Well, I mean freedom of expression does apply, even at the capitol. I certainly don't sympathize with neo-confederates, but if that were an actual law it would apply to flags of other nations, pride flags, etc.
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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:46 pm

Nazeroth wrote:national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

Expansion of the supreme court and abolishment of the electoral college


Arresting people for violation of pandemic measures is incredibly stupid. Arrest requires very close contact, not just with the arresting officers but also with staff at the police station and jail and then if people are incarcerated in close quarters that will definitely turn into a superspreader event.

In fact it would be common sense to arrest and incarcerate as few people as possible right now. Anyone who isn't dangerous should just be given a notice to appear in court.

Also let's keep mask mandates within reason. I wear a mask on dense public streets but I'm not going to put on a mask when I'm walking through the forest.
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Postby Istoreya » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:46 pm

Celestial Wave wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Impeaching him again will prevent him from running in 2024 though, won't it? And he's certainly implied he intends to.

He has? Even if he does run I don't think he would get the Republican nomination again.

In his comment about allowing an orderly transition of power to Biden, he calls the last four years "the greatest first term" and that this is "only the start" of making America great again. So, as much as you are right in that his chances of being nominated are... well, not good, it's certainly being implied that he doesn't think he's done with the Presidency.

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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Page wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

Expansion of the supreme court and abolishment of the electoral college


Arresting people for violation of pandemic measures is incredibly stupid. Arrest requires very close contact, not just with the arresting officers but also with staff at the police station and jail and then if people are incarcerated in close quarters that will definitely turn into a superspreader event.

In fact it would be common sense to arrest and incarcerate as few people as possible right now. Anyone who isn't dangerous should just be given a notice to appear in court.

Also let's keep mask mandates within reason. I wear a mask on dense public streets but I'm not going to put on a mask when I'm walking through the forest.


"within reason" is a reactioary response, these people need to be shown their "freedoms" are limited.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Gravlen wrote:Party of law and order:

Once Capitol Police officer is in critical condition and 15 were hospitalized after up to 60 officers were injured after a violent pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol on Wednesday.

"I'm livid about the whole thing," said Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who added that several police were hit in the lead with lead pipes.


Seriously, stop hitting people in the lead!

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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Nazeroth wrote:national lockdown NOW! for the saftey of the people!

anyone outside without a mask needs to be arrested

Expansion of the supreme court and abolishment of the electoral college

I agree but good luck with that.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

read your own damn sources
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:48 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
"The confederate flag, which never reached the Capital during the Civil War, made it to those hallowed halls under your watch."

OUCH.


anyone with a flag other than the united states is displaying treasonous activity and should be arrested, this nation has no place for traitors like the confederates.


Ok. Time to round up the LGBT crowd then, and BLM, along with the neoconfederates.
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Postby Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:48 pm

No one ever invades the National People's Congress of China.

No one ever questions the legitimacy of the election of the President of China.

But yeah, sure, China is the dictatorship :(

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