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Miternet wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:And as we've learned from cases where drugged-up suspects have taken multiple gunshots and still kept on charging like a rhino, sometimes the only way to render the suspect not a threat is to not stop shooting until they drop to the ground.

Was he charging though? As I recall, he was walking away from the cop as he was shot.

Miternet wrote:Was he charging though? As I recall, he was walking away from the cop as he was shot.

Des-Bal wrote:

Sundiata wrote:Disgusting.

Someone made in the image of God shot down like an animal, is that the kind of country we choose to be?

No, obviously we're the kind that surrenders children to armed men.

Also you don't shoot animals in cars, that's almost exclusively a method of shooting humans.

Sundiata wrote:Why should this human being have been shot to death rather than restrained non-lethally? Emphasis on human being.

Des-Bal wrote:Please stop forming opinions about things before you know what they are.

Sundiata wrote:But why should he have potentially been shot to death? I still don't see why all the officers involved could not have completely restrained him.

Des-Bal wrote:

Sundiata wrote:But why should he have potentially been shot to death? I still don't see why all the officers involved could not have completely restrained him.

There were two, they tried to repeatedly and consistently. You're saying "why doesn't everything always work?" Blame god.

Des-Bal wrote:

Esternial wrote:Seven times...a bit excessive, innit?

No. You shoot until they go down, because you feel they're a deadly threat and you want to stop them before you or someone else could be killed.

If you shoot someone once, see how they're feeling about it, then shoot again it doesn't look like you were deploying the last recourse to stop them it looks like a fucked up torture thing. Same thing with "shooting them in the leg" if you don't feel it's necessary to shoot someone until they go down you shouldn't be fucking shooting them.

G-Tech Corporation wrote:

Esternial wrote:Seven times...a bit excessive, innit?

Not really - the calculation is really just “am I now using lethal force?”. If the answer is yes, one bullet is not inherently less lethal than seven. A single shot can kill someone instantly. You’ve already passed that barrier of using lethal force. At that point the calculation remaining is not how many times do I shoot this man to keep him alive, but how many times do I shoot this man to have the highest probability of him no longer being a threat.

Most military and law enforcement personnel are trained to perform what we call a magdump on a target within their threat range - you shoot until the magazine runs dry, because that gives the highest probability that that threat is no longer a threat.

The answer to the question of “why was he shot seven times?” isn’t “because the officer thought that six would be too few”, but rather that the officer probably didn’t have more bullets.

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Miternet wrote:
Was he charging though? As I recall, he was walking away from the cop as he was shot.

He was armed and a threat to others. He gets shot till he drops.

Sundiata wrote:Blame God, really?

If you don't care that a man was shot seven times to the extent that he became disabled, that's enough of this conversation for me. You might not think much of it, but I did pray for you as well as the family of Jacob Blake.

Miternet wrote:
How compassionate.

Miternet wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:He was armed and a threat to others. He gets shot till he drops.

How compassionate.

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Miternet wrote:
How compassionate.

Why does a man who was trying to kidnap a car full of children deserve my tears?

Des-Bal wrote:

Sundiata wrote:Blame God, really?

If you don't care that a man was shot seven times to the extent that he became disabled, that's enough of this conversation for me. You might not think much of it, but I did pray for you as well as the family of Jacob Blake.

I do care, I wish Jacob Blake made different choices.

Miternet wrote:
How compassionate.

Sounds like he was too much of a pussy to take 7 bullets and retain use of his legs.

Miternet wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:Why does a man who was trying to kidnap a car full of children deserve my tears?

The least you can do is to try to disguise your glee at a black man being maimed. Also the evidence he was kidnapping anyone are circumstantial at best.

But don't let that get in the way of your boodlust.

Miternet wrote:

Des-Bal wrote:
I do care, I wish Jacob Blake made different choices.

Says the guy celebrating his maiming.

Yeah, you really care. I can tell you're all torn up inside.

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Miternet wrote:
How compassionate.

Why does a man who was trying to kidnap a car full of children deserve my tears?