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National Capitalist United States
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:11 pm

Cordel One wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:But comrade, bourgeoisie will willingly allow their wealth to be redistributed and will not attempt to hoard anything!

Oh, but you don't need cops when you adhere to Piñata Economics.

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Postby This website sucks » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:13 pm

Thank god you people will never be in power of anything important lmao.

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Postby Miternet » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:24 pm

Yes but they need to be reformed.

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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:28 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Oh, but you don't need cops when you adhere to Piñata Economics.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:31 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Oh, but you don't need cops when you adhere to Piñata Economics.

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"Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
Dreaming is the first step, and realising those dreams are the second.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
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Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
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Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
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Postby Adamede » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:36 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Oh, but you don't need cops when you adhere to Piñata Economics.

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:48 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
"Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
Dreaming is the first step, and realising those dreams are the second.


Step three is mass-murder.
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National Capitalist United States
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:50 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
"Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
Dreaming is the first step, and realising those dreams are the second.


Step three is mass-murder.

Then proceeding to claim that it wasn`t real communism/it was fascism painted in red 70 years later on Twitter.com
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:52 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
"Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
Dreaming is the first step, and realising those dreams are the second.


Step three is mass-murder.

No, that's step four. idk what step three is, you threw straw all over the manual.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:01 pm

Cordel One wrote:No, that's step four. idk what step three is, you threw straw all over the manual.

That's not straw it's history and I'm not surprised you don't recognize it. I say again, Mish-Mosh. Communism is idiotic and anyone jerking off about the day the workers rise to kill the rich is as delusional as the good ol' boys talking about going innawoods when FEMA opens the death camps and the race wars begin. Revolutionary socialism is a juvenile murder fantasy that butts into every single topic of conversation because the larp never ends.
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:05 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:No, that's step four. idk what step three is, you threw straw all over the manual.

That's not straw it's history and I'm not surprised you don't recognize it. I say again, Mish-Mosh. Communism is idiotic and anyone jerking off about the day the workers rise to kill the rich is as delusional as the good ol' boys talking about going innawoods when FEMA opens the death camps and the race wars begin. Revolutionary socialism is a juvenile murder fantasy that butts into every single topic of conversation because the larp never ends.

I'd say it's more about being a keyboard warrior on the internet nowdays
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:24 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:No, that's step four. idk what step three is, you threw straw all over the manual.

That's not straw it's history and I'm not surprised you don't recognize it. I say again, Mish-Mosh. Communism is idiotic and anyone jerking off about the day the workers rise to kill the rich is as delusional as the good ol' boys talking about going innawoods when FEMA opens the death camps and the race wars begin. Revolutionary socialism is a juvenile murder fantasy that butts into every single topic of conversation because the larp never ends.

Communism is when bad ignore the Zaptistas, Paris Commune, and destabiliation and coups caused by the CIA

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:33 pm

Cordel One wrote:Communism is when bad ignore the Zaptistas, Paris Commune, and destabiliation and coups caused by the CIA



You just listed some losers in a forest, a glorious regime that lasted two months, and capitalism winning. Because communism doesn't work.
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:52 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Communism is when bad ignore the Zaptistas, Paris Commune, and destabiliation and coups caused by the CIA



You just listed some losers in a forest, a glorious regime that lasted two months, and capitalism winning. Because communism doesn't work.

Insulting some communes and using intervention by a superpower as evidence that communism "doesn't work" doesn't prove anything.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:No, that's step four. idk what step three is, you threw straw all over the manual.

That's not straw it's history and I'm not surprised you don't recognize it. I say again, Mish-Mosh. Communism is idiotic and anyone jerking off about the day the workers rise to kill the rich is as delusional as the good ol' boys talking about going innawoods when FEMA opens the death camps and the race wars begin. Revolutionary socialism is a juvenile murder fantasy that butts into every single topic of conversation because the larp never ends.


I'm surprised you're not tired of using "mish-mosh" whenever you can't win an argument.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:56 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
"Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
Dreaming is the first step, and realising those dreams are the second.


Step three is mass-murder.


When did I ever say I would support murdering innocent people (like police are doing in many nations around the world as of present) ?
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:59 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Communism is when bad ignore the Zaptistas, Paris Commune, and destabiliation and coups caused by the CIA



You just listed some losers in a forest, a glorious regime that lasted two months, and capitalism winning. Because communism doesn't work.

Join National Syndicalism, it’s the economic equality and prosperity of theoretical communism without the bad economic policies and hate-boner for nationhood and cultural values
Not an adherent of Italian Fascism anymore, leaning more and more towards Falangist Syndicalism
Corporatism and Corporatocracy are completely different things
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Postby Music Nations » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:59 pm

This website sucks wrote:Thank god you people will never be in power of anything important lmao.

How can you be so sure of that, though?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:00 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:

You just listed some losers in a forest, a glorious regime that lasted two months, and capitalism winning. Because communism doesn't work.

Join National Syndicalism, it’s the economic equality and prosperity of theoretical communism without the bad economic policies and hate-boner for nationhood and cultural values


I prefer keeping my Jewish friends alive, so I'll decline.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:09 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Join National Syndicalism, it’s the economic equality and prosperity of theoretical communism without the bad economic policies and hate-boner for nationhood and cultural values


I prefer keeping my Jewish friends alive, so I'll decline.

Not sure where Jews come from, think you’re mixing up NatSynd (which was the ideology of the Falange) with Hitlerism
Not an adherent of Italian Fascism anymore, leaning more and more towards Falangist Syndicalism
Corporatism and Corporatocracy are completely different things
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:15 pm

Cordel One wrote:Insulting some communes and using intervention by a superpower as evidence that communism "doesn't work" doesn't prove anything.


Achieving nothing of value, failing within two months, and being stymied repeatedly by the flawed you seek to replace are major problems when they're your shining cities on the hill.

Sanghyeok wrote:
I'm surprised you're not tired of using "mish-mosh" whenever you can't win an argument.


Yeah again "Mish-Mosh" is the statement of the problem, it is not an argument or a substitute for an argument. I'm saying it repeatedly because it's a consistent problem, your anti-police shtick is part of a broader patchwork of bad ideas.

Sanghyeok wrote:
When did I ever say I would support murdering innocent people (like police are doing in many nations around the world as of present) ?


Sanghyeok wrote:I prefer keeping my Jewish friends alive, so I'll decline.


Oh hey, when you were talking about someone else's pet ideology you didn't turn off the part of your brain that sees mass graves.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:16 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Oh hey, when you were talking about someone else's pet ideology you didn't turn off the part of your brain that sees mass graves.


And you fail to see the deaths and failures that come with policing and capitalism.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:19 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:And you fail to see the deaths and failures that come with policing and capitalism.


No. No I don't. It's just that the imperfect systems I support work, and the ones you support don't.
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Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:23 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Insulting some communes and using intervention by a superpower as evidence that communism "doesn't work" doesn't prove anything.


Achieving nothing of value, failing within two months, and being stymied repeatedly by the flawed you seek to replace are major problems when they're your shining cities on the hill.

Again, massive intervention by the ominant ideology. Every major society seemed indestructible at its peak and imposed its will on others.

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Postby Kubra » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:15 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Communism is when bad ignore the Zaptistas, Paris Commune, and destabiliation and coups caused by the CIA



You just listed some losers in a forest, a glorious regime that lasted two months, and capitalism winning. Because communism doesn't work.
that'll be a yikes from me dawg
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