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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:27 pm

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The CCP is just another set of tyrants with their rifle sites on me.

And me, as I hate them... We may have to team up. It may be the only way!


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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:28 pm

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Do you think the existence of Bavaria and Free City of Lübeck is inherently problematic?

No, as long as there peaceful with eachother and Germany, which in a developed country like that is likely. But in Asia? The stakes are MUCH higher.


Hmm why?

China is a global problem precisely because it is strong and that Chinese people do have a lot of positive traits which when used for evil can be formidable. A similar entity in Africa for example can be taken out without a global conflict when it becomes too insane (e.g. Amin and Bokassa).
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Postby GermanNationalRepublic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:28 pm

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:That’s essentially a might makes right argument. If that’s the case then why do we even oppose human rights abuses? I mean, the only viable solution to the problem of Jews existing is the Holocaust, said Nazis..

we don't. human rights are fake which means there's no such thing as a human rights abuse :D 8)

So Water, Food, and Dignity are not a right? I don’t feel like I shouldn’t go with food and water, just like everyone else should (except for people who are REALLY bad, like genocide bad.)
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:29 pm

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:That’s essentially a might makes right argument. If that’s the case then why do we even oppose human rights abuses? I mean, the only viable solution to the problem of Jews existing is the Holocaust, said Nazis..

we don't. human rights are fake which means there's no such thing as a human rights abuse :D 8)


You are likely from China then.

There are numerous groups on this planet and no matter how much they hate each other they usually accept human rights.
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Postby Disgraces » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:29 pm

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Postby Ithalian Empire » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:30 pm

GermanNationalRepublic wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The CCP is just another set of tyrants with their rifle sites on me.

And me, as I hate them... We may have to team up. It may be the only way!


Hurt them economically. Stop buying made in china, stop supporting companies that tow the line of the CCP. I don't hate the Chinese, I hate there government and what they stand for.

Also good idea to keep your rifle by your side.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:That’s essentially a might makes right argument. If that’s the case then why do we even oppose human rights abuses? I mean, the only viable solution to the problem of Jews existing is the Holocaust, said Nazis..

we don't. human rights are fake which means there's no such thing as a human rights abuse :D 8)

This is a bit right?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:30 pm

GermanNationalRepublic wrote:
Khoronzon wrote:we don't. human rights are fake which means there's no such thing as a human rights abuse :D 8)

So Water, Food, and Dignity are not a right? I don’t feel like I shouldn’t go with food and water, just like everyone else should (except for people who are REALLY bad, like genocide bad.)


From a Sinostatist POV they are not a right. If China wants you to starve to death you’d better voluntarily starve to death without complaining. After all that’s how China “worked” in history.
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Postby Ethics Committee of the SCPF » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:30 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not like it matters. Industrial civilization is rapidly heading towards the cliff and not even attempting to hit the brakes.


Yeah tbh China's glory days will probably last 5 minutes before the climate induced dark ages go global and all of mankind (except people who live in Burlington Vermont and Manchester New Hampshire) is plunged into 1000 years of chaos and darkness.

Actually 999 but 1000 sounds better.

Why those specific cities? I would think people who live in Iceland and Switzerland would be safe.
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Postby GermanNationalRepublic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:31 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
GermanNationalRepublic wrote:No, as long as there peaceful with eachother and Germany, which in a developed country like that is likely. But in Asia? The stakes are MUCH higher.


Hmm why?

China is a global problem precisely because it is strong and that Chinese people do have a lot of positive traits which when used for evil can be formidable. A similar entity in Africa for example can be taken out without a global conflict when it becomes too insane (e.g. Amin and Bokassa).

Why?

1) The Middle East
2) India and Pakistan’s inevitable sh*itshow
3) North Korea
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:31 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not like it matters. Industrial civilization is rapidly heading towards the cliff and not even attempting to hit the brakes.


Yeah tbh China's glory days will probably last 5 minutes before the climate induced dark ages go global and all of mankind (except people who live in Burlington Vermont and Manchester New Hampshire) is plunged into 1000 years of chaos and darkness.

Actually 999 but 1000 sounds better.


To address climate change abolish China.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
Cats rule; dogs drool; Israel rocks; China sucks.
Abolish China and save lives.
What is Sinostatism?
Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Postby GermanNationalRepublic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:32 pm

Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah tbh China's glory days will probably last 5 minutes before the climate induced dark ages go global and all of mankind (except people who live in Burlington Vermont and Manchester New Hampshire) is plunged into 1000 years of chaos and darkness.

Actually 999 but 1000 sounds better.

Why those specific cities? I would think people who live in Iceland and Switzerland would be safe.

And Siberia, as increased temperatures make for MORE farmland
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:33 pm

GermanNationalRepublic wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Hmm why?

China is a global problem precisely because it is strong and that Chinese people do have a lot of positive traits which when used for evil can be formidable. A similar entity in Africa for example can be taken out without a global conflict when it becomes too insane (e.g. Amin and Bokassa).

Why?

1) The Middle East
2) India and Pakistan’s inevitable sh*itshow
3) North Korea


All entities in the Middle East, ISIS included, are not remotely as amoral as China. They just believe in Medieval ethics, not absence of ethics.

The India vs Pakistan issue is really a border conflict no different from Armenia vs Azerbaijan, not an existential one.

NK is a small China.
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Current Queen: Sarah IV (House of Moshel)
Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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Abolish China and save lives.
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Must read on China by David Goldman https://www.tabletmag.com/amp/sections/ ... ina-empire

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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:33 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Jershaland wrote:China is an authoritarian state arguably currently committing genocide against its Muslim population. It is also imperialistic. So if your looking for peace they aren't the ones that are going to bring it.

Don't forget their active suppression of any dissent (as well as their ridiculous censorship of calling Xi Jinping "Winnie the Pooh"). China's rise to global power will only lead to the rise of authoritarianism.

And their wanting to force "Ji Xinping Thought" onto their own children, their forced sterilisations and abortions, their forced organ removal from political dissidents (and the fact they even lock people up for political dissent).

A future with China under Xi Jinping at its helm would be very grim indeed.

Fortunately, many companies see the road China's on for what it is and have moved production out of China. One third of companies have moved, or plan to move imminently, out of China (including Apple, Microsoft and Google).

Change won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:33 pm

How many of these fucking threads do we need
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:34 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah tbh China's glory days will probably last 5 minutes before the climate induced dark ages go global and all of mankind (except people who live in Burlington Vermont and Manchester New Hampshire) is plunged into 1000 years of chaos and darkness.

Actually 999 but 1000 sounds better.


To address climate change abolish China.

If anything, given America has emitted more CO2 than any other country, at 25% of historical emissions, roughly twice that of China, America should probably be abolished instead of China.
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Postby Ethics Committee of the SCPF » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:34 pm

GermanNationalRepublic wrote:
Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:Why those specific cities? I would think people who live in Iceland and Switzerland would be safe.

And Siberia, as increased temperatures make for MORE farmland

Can’t wait to start a farm in Siberia while the word suffers from Chinese Authoritarianism
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:34 pm

Senkaku wrote:How many of these fucking threads do we need

Arguably, the one last month was one too many.
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Postby Ethics Committee of the SCPF » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:35 pm

Oops mistake
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:35 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
To address climate change abolish China.

If anything, given America has emitted more CO2 than any other country, at 25% of historical emissions, roughly twice that of China, America should probably be abolished instead of China.


The issue of climate change denial in America is also a serious problem, yes. It does need to be addressed but America does not have to be abolished to address it.
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Postby GermanNationalRepublic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:35 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
GermanNationalRepublic wrote:Why?

1) The Middle East
2) India and Pakistan’s inevitable sh*itshow
3) North Korea


All entities in the Middle East, ISIS included, are not remotely as amoral as China. They just believe in Medieval ethics, not absence of ethics.

The India vs Pakistan issue is really a border conflict no different from Armenia vs Azerbaijan, not an existential one.

NK is a small China.

Iran? Hello? Almost caused WW3 exactly a year ago!

The Indo-Pakistan War will have devastating effects for India and Pakistan, but don’t forget damage won’t be just limited to them.

North Korea has also almost started WW3
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:36 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:I’ve just read that China’s economy may overtake the US economy as world number one by 2028.

I am very excited about this and I would hope that China can avoid some of the pitfalls (ex fighting expensive and controversial wars to topple governments oceans away) that other top economic powers have run into. I am hoping for a new century of peace, economic cooperation and global growth. While Chinese economic partnerships in Africa and elsewhere have created some inequality (which in my view is inevitable), they have also objectively brought up the GDPs of those countries by providing capital. I would hope that China continues its trademark policies of encouraging win-win economic solutions and opportunities for everyone.

Sources:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... a-55454146

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... vertake-us

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... my-earlier

NSG, what do you think the world will look like? I am very optimistic.

Yes, because the closest thing we have to modern day Nazi Germany is so interested in peace and cooperation.
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Postby GermanNationalRepublic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:36 pm

Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:
GermanNationalRepublic wrote:And Siberia, as increased temperatures make for MORE farmland

Can’t wait to start a farm in Siberia while the word suffers from Chinese Authoritarianism

Same, im actually learning Russian rn just for that!
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Postby Khoronzon » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:36 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:There are numerous groups on this planet and no matter how much they hate each other they usually accept human rights.

that's because they aren't cool and based like china which doesn't need to suck up to western ideology 8) deng gang stay winning

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:36 pm

Another China thread? Shit.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:37 pm

GermanNationalRepublic wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
All entities in the Middle East, ISIS included, are not remotely as amoral as China. They just believe in Medieval ethics, not absence of ethics.

The India vs Pakistan issue is really a border conflict no different from Armenia vs Azerbaijan, not an existential one.

NK is a small China.

Iran? Hello? Almost caused WW3 exactly a year ago!

The Indo-Pakistan War will have devastating effects for India and Pakistan, but don’t forget damage won’t be just limited to them.

North Korea has also almost started WW3


Iran War would not cause WWIII.

All the former Indo-Pakistani Wars were not like that. They have a nuclear hotline and know what they are doing.

NK is something else lol since it is a small China. The current DPRK needs to be overthrown and a new liberal democratic North Korea should be established.
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