The Rise of China

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The weird COVID problem in Quebec is likely due to a racial conflict. Many white-blackists tend to get one issue very wrong. The level of racial conflict is related to genetic similarity. So black people do suffer from a very serious disadvantage as the rest of humanity without Sub-Saharan African ancestry actually tend to collude and gang up against them. If we understand this then the COVID woes in Quebec is easy to explain: enough non-blacks secretly decide that black people dying from COVID doesn’t matter hence they don’t care enough to keep COVID out. Black prior there are not wealthy enough nor do they have enough STEM people to stem the COVID problem. Compare that with Hawaii where the ethnic Japanese Governor actually cares at least about fellow Japanese Hawaiians which benefits all Hawaiians.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

1. Ultranationalism is high in places such as South Korea. That’s actually fine since it is really a very common Eurasian phenomenon from Poland to Japan. For actual homogeneous societies as long as ultranationalism does not lead to war or harassment of foreigners I guess it’s sort of ok. In agricultural NE Asia people just hate each other but do not actually kill each other due to the hatred so I guess that’s ok except for the situation of the Korean community in Japan.

2. Of course Tokyo is safe to visit (lol). America isn’t full of KKK either. The places that are actually full of violent ethnats who regularly commit violence to the point that it is not even safe to be in tend to be in East Europe and the Middle East. These are the most extreme ethnat places in the world.

3. China treating its own subjects like shit has nothing to do with communism. Instead it is an inherent trait of China likely due to extreme deprivation in the past. While communist, Cuba and Vietnam know more humanity than China.

Modern China is curiously building another Great Wall in its southern borders not to keep people out but to keep Chinese subjects from escaping. This shows the nature of China in all of its history: a huge prison. If China is abolished Chinese immigrants will immediately rush through the border.

For your own sake please forget that China even exists. It’s good to have friends from the entire world (I also do). With folks from Lebanon, Ukraine, India, Nigeria etc we learn more perspectives. The more we learn about the rest of the world the more absurd and out of place China looks. China needs to die so that the people can develop a better civilization both better for the people and more integrated with and understandable to the rest of the world.

1. Ultranationalism? We don't even care about our culture language etc like France does, much less have it rammed down everywhere (Samuel Paty). Get off the internet warriors, we are best friends anyways unlike you Westerners. In Europe you have dozens of countries because you revile each other, it's constant mitosis. Now I don't know, what's this? "Jewish religious fanatics spitting at Christian priests and nuns has become a tradition."--Jerusalem Post https://www.jpost.com/magazine/mouths-f ... ith-hatred And they are often your own citizens (not just Palestinians.)

2. You have no retort when it comes to Israel's record. As mentioned before, you "refuted" my pointing out Israel's massive human rights violations with "Oh but the savage Eastern Europeans kill everyone, at least israel doesn't do that, it generously didn't kill them all." Or rag on Ming dynasty china's sea ban/then am silenced when I bring up Israel's literal apartheid wall. And now you're on again about this mystical Great Wall. Which leads us to...


3. " China treating its own subjects like shit has nothing to do with communism. Instead it is an inherent trait of China likely due to extreme deprivation in the past. While communist, Cuba and Vietnam know more humanity than China." When you point at someone, 3 fingers points back at you.


Yes, as I posted her article 3 times above, the Stanford law school/harvard graduate and Presidential= advisor who lived her whole life outside of China chose China over USA when it came to covid responses, because who can trust the US when it comes to diseases.

"The more we learn about the rest of the world the more absurd and out of place China looks." Ggü the West who can't get its own problems like Covid together, you can stop preaching your ideology elsewhere with those "democracy centers/workshops" or whatever. I actually came to appreciate China a lot more after I was away for years. Western style incompetence like the Covid debacle would never be tolerated in Asia. I find it ridiculous for Quebec to want independence after it is by far the statistically the worst handled Covid province in Canada on top of their centuries long history of incompetence. I don't think you know what the slur you threw at millions of people 「low status」 is since you love calling entire ethnicities「mentally ill.」In light of that, it's actually your Israeli culture, not mine that should be「abolished」as you repeatedly agitate for.


This is a waste of time. I won't be discussing here anymore, so please don't reply. This is for those posters replying to you making the same claims I'd debunked (repeatedly/earlier.)

You don’t even realize what’s interesting in the long run. A perfectly orderly society also tends to lack creativity. To allow a few people to do really interesting and good stuff we also have to allow more people to do crazy and harmful stuff since the two are often indistinguishable in the beginning. After all young Bill Gates was indistinguishable from delinquent youth since both tended to be outside home at night.

The main cultural malaise in agricultural NE Asia that affects Japan even more than China is too much conformism. The entire society is orderly to the point of sterility. This is why even Japan only has per capita contribution on Nature Index comparable to Spain and Italy. Why are Germanics different? Because they actually allow individuals to be independent from family. Look up Hajnal Line.

When I say I want to abolish China the main thing to be abolished is not even the communist government. Instead it is the stifling collectivist culture that caused the region to be sufficiently isolated and out of touch with the rest of the world that UK could show up with significant tech advantage to begin with.

From a utilitarian POV Ashkenazis and Israel are good. Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes and have tremendous religious, intellectual and economic contributions to the world. The world would not have lost much if China and Chinese never existed. Yet life would have been completely different if Jewish people had never existed, even more different than a world in which Anglos or Germans (in a modern sense) never existed. Without Jewish people it is likely that neither monotheism nor atheism would have been mainstream and the quality of philosophy would have been much lower.

“Western style incompetence like the Covid debacle would never be tolerated in Asia”

What is Asia? Is the Philippines in Asia? Or to you Asia literally means NE Asian majority countries (China, Japan, Koreans, Taiwan, Singapore, Mongolia)? NEA is a very special region and its behaviors are anything but normative on this planet.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

China continues to be shit and do shitty things.

Tldr on my idea to save china from an authoritarian dictatorship without causeing ww3 would be:

winnie the pooh needs to be yeeted from office now

Libertarian socialist reforms need to be done now

Elections must start and be free and fair

More political partys then just the one (technically two but defacto one)

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

China continues to be shit and do shitty things.

Tldr on my idea to save china from an authoritarian dictatorship without causeing ww3 would be:

winnie the pooh needs to be yeeted from office now

Libertarian socialist reforms need to be done now

Elections must start and be free and fair

More political partys then just the one (technically two but defacto one)

None of these is happening except for maybe the first.

It was morally good to start WWII in 1933 and abolish Nazi Germany with much lower human cost, not wait for it to start in 1939.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

China continues to be shit and do shitty things.

Tldr on my idea to save china from an authoritarian dictatorship without causeing ww3 would be:

winnie the pooh needs to be yeeted from office now

Libertarian socialist reforms need to be done now

Elections must start and be free and fair

More political partys then just the one (technically two but defacto one)

None of these is happening except for maybe the first.

It was morally good to start WWII in 1933 and abolish Nazi Germany with much lower human cost, not wait for it to start in 1939.

Yeah I rather not start war with a nuclear power

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

None of these is happening except for maybe the first.

It was morally good to start WWII in 1933 and abolish Nazi Germany with much lower human cost, not wait for it to start in 1939.

Yeah I rather not start war with a nuclear power

Then we are in danger of something worse.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yeah I rather not start war with a nuclear power

Then we are in danger of something worse.

Worse then billions dieing from nukes launching?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Then we are in danger of something worse.

Worse then billions dieing from nukes launching?

China doesn’t have that many nukes. However if it is not abolished soon it may begin to release bioweapons such as Ebola worldwide.

[Yuzu China]

1. Ultranationalism? We don't even care about our culture language etc like France does, much less have it rammed down everywhere (Samuel Paty). Get off the internet warriors, we are best friends anyways unlike you Westerners. In Europe you have dozens of countries because you revile each other, it's constant mitosis. Now I don't know, what's this? "Jewish religious fanatics spitting at Christian priests and nuns has become a tradition."--Jerusalem Post https://www.jpost.com/magazine/mouths-f ... ith-hatred And they are often your own citizens (not just Palestinians.)

2. You have no retort when it comes to Israel's record. As mentioned before, you "refuted" my pointing out Israel's massive human rights violations with "Oh but the savage Eastern Europeans kill everyone, at least israel doesn't do that, it generously didn't kill them all." Or rag on Ming dynasty china's sea ban/then am silenced when I bring up Israel's literal apartheid wall. And now you're on again about this mystical Great Wall. Which leads us to...


3. " China treating its own subjects like shit has nothing to do with communism. Instead it is an inherent trait of China likely due to extreme deprivation in the past. While communist, Cuba and Vietnam know more humanity than China." When you point at someone, 3 fingers points back at you.


Yes, as I posted her article 3 times above, the Stanford law school/harvard graduate and Presidential= advisor who lived her whole life outside of China chose China over USA when it came to covid responses, because who can trust the US when it comes to diseases.

"The more we learn about the rest of the world the more absurd and out of place China looks." Ggü the West who can't get its own problems like Covid together, you can stop preaching your ideology elsewhere with those "democracy centers/workshops" or whatever. I actually came to appreciate China a lot more after I was away for years. Western style incompetence like the Covid debacle would never be tolerated in Asia. I find it ridiculous for Quebec to want independence after it is by far the statistically the worst handled Covid province in Canada on top of their centuries long history of incompetence. I don't think you know what the slur you threw at millions of people 「low status」 is since you love calling entire ethnicities「mentally ill.」In light of that, it's actually your Israeli culture, not mine that should be「abolished」as you repeatedly agitate for.


This is a waste of time. I won't be discussing here anymore, so please don't reply. This is for those posters replying to you making the same claims I'd debunked (repeatedly/earlier.)

You don’t even realize what’s interesting in the long run. A perfectly orderly society also tends to lack creativity. To allow a few people to do really interesting and good stuff we also have to allow more people to do crazy and harmful stuff since the two are often indistinguishable in the beginning. After all young Bill Gates was indistinguishable from delinquent youth since both tended to be outside home at night.

The main cultural malaise in agricultural NE Asia that affects Japan even more than China is too much conformism. The entire society is orderly to the point of sterility. This is why even Japan only has per capita contribution on Nature Index comparable to Spain and Italy. Why are Germanics different? Because they actually allow individuals to be independent from family. Look up Hajnal Line.

When I say I want to abolish China the main thing to be abolished is not even the communist government. Instead it is the stifling collectivist culture that caused the region to be sufficiently isolated and out of touch with the rest of the world that UK could show up with significant tech advantage to begin with.

From a utilitarian POV Ashkenazis and Israel are good. Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes and have tremendous religious, intellectual and economic contributions to the world. The world would not have lost much if China and Chinese never existed. Yet life would have been completely different if Jewish people had never existed, even more different than a world in which Anglos or Germans (in a modern sense) never existed. Without Jewish people it is likely that neither monotheism nor atheism would have been mainstream and the quality of philosophy would have been much lower.

“Western style incompetence like the Covid debacle would never be tolerated in Asia”

What is Asia? Is the Philippines in Asia? Or to you Asia literally means NE Asian majority countries (China, Japan, Koreans, Taiwan, Singapore, Mongolia)? NEA is a very special region and its behaviors are anything but normative on this planet.

Ok stop wasting my time for once (my prev reply was for those new to this thread who you force to waste their time@your repeated, same claims which I debunked multiple times). However, your new comment's racism has to be addressed.

「Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes.」 It doesn't matter who gets the noble prizes, learn how they are awarded first, etc and for what reason. For ex:Based off the Noble Prize statistics, you'd think women are inferior to men (per Nature Index): https://www.natureindex.com/news-blog/t ... -you-think

「Without Jewish people it is likely that neither monotheism nor atheism would have been mainstream」: If you don't know the history of your own country, don't lie about being ethnically Chinese; I debunked you many times. You don't even know basic maxims/proverbs much less K-12 history. And anyone can come up with a church, you have just started the Sinostatism one and I don't want to be your pastor when you retire.

「Stifling collectivist culture」

Go reread your textbooks because they're all outdated. I shock my professors with what we come up with here/use our media to explain class concepts in lecture or office hours to help my peers get concepts in a readily understandable way, and this is an Ivy league college with professors who graduated from a similar background. That doesn't give me a pass to shame them with words like yours.

Now let's see how offensive your words are: 「The world would not have lost much if C̶h̶i̶n̶e̶s̶e̶ Jewish people never existed.」

So what would we have lost according to you is merely「monotheism and atheism.」

I.e. mere feudal superstitions. Ok, it took me like 5 seconds to come up w these ideologies, thank you everyone for wasting your time. Even a preschooler could come up with them, my baby cousin tried both out before. Or read "Life of Pi" if you're into that theology stuff, there are billions of such books including Trump's "art of the deal" or (Jewish) Ayn Rand's atheism. I only mention Western books here because we aren't all locked into our country like you claim.

Unfortunately, it seems that what you have NOT invented is emotional maturity such as not calling billions of people 「mentally diseased.」 That's the most important 「theological concept」 of all if you're into feudal superstitions. And that is something even my preschool baby cousin understands.

As you can see, there is no point in further discussion with Nekostan at all. I'm off.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The weird COVID problem in Quebec is likely due to a racial conflict. Many white-blackists tend to get one issue very wrong. The level of racial conflict is related to genetic similarity. So black people do suffer from a very serious disadvantage as the rest of humanity without Sub-Saharan African ancestry actually tend to collude and gang up against them. If we understand this then the COVID woes in Quebec is easy to explain: enough non-blacks secretly decide that black people dying from COVID doesn’t matter hence they don’t care enough to keep COVID out. Black prior there are not wealthy enough nor do they have enough STEM people to stem the COVID problem. Compare that with Hawaii where the ethnic Japanese Governor actually cares at least about fellow Japanese Hawaiians which benefits all Hawaiians.

The idea that all other races gang up on blacks is simply not true. A black person walking through South Bronx (which is half hispanic) would be accepted more readily than a white man, and some of your self described woke types are often very anti white but very pro black even if they themselves are hispanic or native american.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Worse then billions dieing from nukes launching?

China doesn’t have that many nukes. However if it is not abolished soon it may begin to release bioweapons such as Ebola worldwide.

"Not that many". If it's a number above 0, it's too many nukes.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The weird COVID problem in Quebec is likely due to a racial conflict. Many white-blackists tend to get one issue very wrong. The level of racial conflict is related to genetic similarity. So black people do suffer from a very serious disadvantage as the rest of humanity without Sub-Saharan African ancestry actually tend to collude and gang up against them. If we understand this then the COVID woes in Quebec is easy to explain: enough non-blacks secretly decide that black people dying from COVID doesn’t matter hence they don’t care enough to keep COVID out. Black prior there are not wealthy enough nor do they have enough STEM people to stem the COVID problem. Compare that with Hawaii where the ethnic Japanese Governor actually cares at least about fellow Japanese Hawaiians which benefits all Hawaiians.

The idea that all other races gang up on blacks is simply not true. A black person walking through South Bronx (which is half hispanic) would be accepted more readily than a white man, and some of your self described woke types are often very anti white but very pro black even if they themselves are hispanic or native american.

The word “Hispanic” is inherently unclear. I assume that you mean Puerto Rican or Dominicans. There are genetic reasons why people from the Caribbeans are acceptable to both, namely they are actually mixed race.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

China doesn’t have that many nukes. However if it is not abolished soon it may begin to release bioweapons such as Ebola worldwide.

"Not that many". If it's a number above 0, it's too many nukes.

China existing will lead to even more deaths. Just like Nazi Germany the faster the abolition the lower the body count.

[Yuzu China]

"Not that many". If it's a number above 0, it's too many nukes.

China existing will lead to even more deaths. Just like Nazi Germany the faster the abolition the lower the body count.

This coming from the same guy who implied women are inferior to men (per Nature Index): https://www.natureindex.com/news-blog/t ... -you-think

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

China existing will lead to even more deaths. Just like Nazi Germany the faster the abolition the lower the body count.

This coming from the same guy who implied women are inferior to men (per Nature Index): https://www.natureindex.com/news-blog/t ... -you-think

I never implied that. What’s even funnier is that I never said anything remotely like that here ever. Don’t put your words in my mouths. It is obvious that genders shouldn’t be equal and females are superior to males regardless of species. It is biological reality.

Moreover it must be interesting to imagine an all-male version of humanity. They would have died out in 80 years lol.

[Yuzu China]

This coming from the same guy who implied women are inferior to men (per Nature Index): https://www.natureindex.com/news-blog/t ... -you-think

I never implied that. What’s even funnier is that I never said anything remotely like that here ever. Don’t put your words in my mouths. It is obvious that genders shouldn’t be equal and females are superior to males regardless of species. It is biological reality.

「Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes.」(That/its implications debunked by me, above.)

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I never implied that. What’s even funnier is that I never said anything remotely like that here ever. Don’t put your words in my mouths. It is obvious that genders shouldn’t be equal and females are superior to males regardless of species. It is biological reality.

「Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes.」(That/its implications debunked by me, above.)

So you agree that the claim is actually factually accurate and that you are the one who tries to make me look bad by your “implications”, right? It does not solve the problem that the world would have been just fine if China and its inhabitants never existed. This actually does not apply to many other peoples. For example if Africans never existed then humans by definition can not. If Greeks never existed I couldn’t imagine what politics and philosophy would have been like.

[Yuzu China]

「Jewish people get about 20% or more of Nobel Prizes.」(That/its implications debunked by me, above.)

So you agree that the claim is actually factually accurate and that you are the one who tries to make me look bad by your “implications”, right?

What kind of sorcery is this. This made as much sense as you claiming that Israel is better than those savage Eastern Europeans who "kill everyone" because it doesn't kill all the Palestinians when trying to refute me noting your hypocrisy on Israel.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

So you agree that the claim is actually factually accurate and that you are the one who tries to make me look bad by your “implications”, right?

What kind of sorcery is this. This made as much sense as you claiming that Israel is better than those savage Eastern Europeans who "kill everyone" because it doesn't kill all the Palestinians when trying to refute me noting your hypocrisy on Israel.

How many Palestinians did Israel even kill compared to their total population? There is no hypocrisy here.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

There will be one day when China will finally cease to exist. That will be a great day for the people of Japan, Korea, Taiwan and all other humans.

[Yuzu China]

If Greeks never existed I couldn’t imagine what politics and philosophy would have been like.

As I stated before. The politics/philosophy feudal superstitions like atheism or democracy can be invented by a 3 year old, yet despite these "enlightened philosophers" you don't understand that it's not appropriate to fling around ableist slurs, much less at entire ethnicities as "mentally diseased."

I don't think any of your philosophers have the emotional maturity of a mere 3 year old.

We can keep wasting each other's time, but just know that Nekostan is an Israeli keyboard warrior who doesn't understand his own civilization, much less that of others or what to do with them.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

As I stated before. The politics/philosophy feudal superstitions like atheism or democracy can be invented by a 3 year old, yet despite these "enlightened philosophers" you don't understand that it's not appropriate to fling around ableist slurs, much less at entire ethnicities as "mentally diseased."

I don't think any of your philosophers have the emotional maturity of a mere 3 year old.

We can keep wasting each other's time, but just know that Nekostan is an Israeli keyboard warrior who doesn't understand his own civilization, much less that of others or what to do with them.

You are now at DH0 (Ad Hominem).

[Yuzu China]

As I stated before. The politics/philosophy feudal superstitions like atheism or democracy can be invented by a 3 year old, yet despite these "enlightened philosophers" you don't understand that it's not appropriate to fling around ableist slurs, much less at entire ethnicities as "mentally diseased."

I don't think any of your philosophers have the emotional maturity of a mere 3 year old.

We can keep wasting each other's time, but just know that Nekostan is an Israeli keyboard warrior who doesn't understand his own civilization, much less that of others or what to do with them.

You are now at DH0 (Ad Hominem).

Ok:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/201 ... ists-find/

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science ... belltitem2

This is a waste of time. I'm off.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

You are now at DH0 (Ad Hominem).

Ok:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/201 ... ists-find/

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science ... belltitem2

This is a waste of time. I'm off.

Humanity : 1
Sinostatism: 0

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Sinostatism and its dear “K-12 history”, cherished by Sinostatists, is nonsense just like nationalist “histories” elsewhere lol.