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Is Celibacy Good?

Postby Esalia » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:35 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Maybe we should have a celibacy thread.


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The polyandry thread got onto a tangent around celibacy. That isn't the topic of that thread, but luckily it is the topic of this one!

To steal the first line of Wikipedia, "celibacy is the state of voluntarily being unmarried, sexually abstinent, or both, usually for religious reasons". Some people might see it as a moral good, that one should strive to be celibate for whatever reason. Others might not care about striving to be celibate, and that it really should be up to us if we want to be celibate or not. And there might be a few of you who think we should be the exact opposite of celibate and be as sexually active as we can manage.

So, NSG, is celibacy a moral good that we all should strive for, or is it something that we shouldn't really care about achieving (or something else)? Why/why not?

As for my opinion, I don't think we should really care about being celibate all that much. If you want to be celibate, go right ahead, I'm not going to stop you. I don't think we as a society should expect people to be celibate though, especially since I don't see anything inherently wrong with being sexually active.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:36 pm

It's not a-moral.

Morality has nothing to do with it.
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Postby Sundiata » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:38 pm

Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:38 pm

It's neither good or bad.

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Postby Middle Barael » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:40 pm

I feel that this is a non-issue, it is somebody’s choice but it’s not moral or immoral
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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:42 pm

It just is. There’s nothing inherently good or bad about celibacy or promiscuity.

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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:42 pm

Sundiata wrote:Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.

Sex isn’t cumbersome for everyone dude.

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Postby Sundiata » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:42 pm

Nakena wrote:It's neither good or bad.

It's really quite good if one can overcome its challenges.
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Postby Disgraces » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:43 pm

I don't see how it can be good or bad
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:43 pm

It's good in the sense that there's nothing wrong with it

Similarly, banging every adult your heart desires is good in the sense that there's nothing wrong with it (as long as your participants are willing).
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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Nakena wrote:It's neither good or bad.

It's really quite good if one can overcome its challenges.

So is promiscuity.

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Postby Esalia » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Sundiata wrote:Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.


Well it was incredibly easy to have deep friendships and relationships "unencumbered" by sex for me, no discipline needed.

Having no sexual attraction will do that for you.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:45 pm

If you don't like sex, then yeah. Probably.

If you do like sex, then usually not.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:45 pm

Esalia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.


Well it was incredibly easy to have deep friendships and relationships "unencumbered" by sex for me, no discipline needed.

Having no sexual attraction will do that for you.

No sexual attraction in that you’re ace or that no one is attracted to you, or both?

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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:45 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Nakena wrote:It's neither good or bad.

It's really quite good if one can overcome its challenges.


What challenges?

It's a very easy thing to do, you don't even have to think about it. You literally just don't have to go out, meet people, flirt with them/hit on them, hook up with them or date them for a while before hooking up with them.

If anything, just to have sex is far more challenging simply because there are more steps to walk through and more effort you have to put into reaching the endgoal.
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Postby Sundiata » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:45 pm

Adamede wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.

Sex isn’t cumbersome for everyone dude.

What do you mean? It's great to have friendships where you're not being hit on or someone stops talking to you because they're expecting "more" from you. Celibacy maintains that stability on your end as an individual, allowing for beautiful relationships.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Esalia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Yes, celibacy is the best way to be if one can discipline themselves. It's nice to have deep friendships and relationships unencumbered by sex.


Well it was incredibly easy to have deep friendships and relationships "unencumbered" by sex for me, no discipline needed.

Having no sexual attraction will do that for you.


Really just cheating the system entirely though.

Like playing a game of Monopoly but already having a get out of jail free card in your pocket.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Fun Fact: It is impossible for Celibacy to be involuntary as it as it is always the result of personal choice and decision making. It can only be voluntary, it's literally in the definition of the word.
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Postby Esalia » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Adamede wrote:
Esalia wrote:
Well it was incredibly easy to have deep friendships and relationships "unencumbered" by sex for me, no discipline needed.

Having no sexual attraction will do that for you.

No sexual attraction in that you’re ace or that no one is attracted to you, or both?


I'm ace.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Adamede wrote:Sex isn’t cumbersome for everyone dude.

What do you mean? It's great to have friendships where you're not being hit on or someone stops talking to you because they're expecting "more" from you. Celibacy maintains that stability on your end as an individual, allowing for beautiful relationships.

That’s not same thing as celibacy dude. You can have an active sexual life and not want to bang all your friends too.

Goddam I’m a virgin and even I understand that.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sundiata wrote:It's really quite good if one can overcome its challenges.


What challenges?

It's a very easy thing to do, you don't even have to think about it. You literally just don't have to go out, meet people, flirt with them/hit on them, hook up with them or date them for a while before hooking up with them.


For everything else, there's mastercard.

If anything, just to have sex is far more challenging simply because there are more steps to walk through and more effort you have to put into reaching the endgoal.


I stand by my statement.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:48 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Adamede wrote:Sex isn’t cumbersome for everyone dude.

What do you mean? It's great to have friendships where you're not being hit on or someone stops talking to you because they're expecting "more" from you. Celibacy maintains that stability on your end as an individual, allowing for beautiful relationships.

What type of friends do you have Sun?
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:49 pm

Who cares?
It's just an arbitrary choice that anyone can decide to make or not make. There's little morality involved.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:49 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
What challenges?

It's a very easy thing to do, you don't even have to think about it. You literally just don't have to go out, meet people, flirt with them/hit on them, hook up with them or date them for a while before hooking up with them.


For everything else, there's mastercard.

If anything, just to have sex is far more challenging simply because there are more steps to walk through and more effort you have to put into reaching the endgoal.


I stand by my statement.

Whatever happened to good ole back alley cash payments?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:49 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Adamede wrote:Sex isn’t cumbersome for everyone dude.

What do you mean? It's great to have friendships where you're not being hit on or someone stops talking to you because they're expecting "more" from you. Celibacy maintains that stability on your end as an individual, allowing for beautiful relationships.

But... that's all stuff that can still happen when you're celibate.

In fact, it's probably more likely to.
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