Is polyandry bad?

[New haven america]

:meh:

There are crimes that are threats to society but which are not in themselves harmful. Ponzi schemes, for example.


That's my point. You can't decry physical violence without also decrying the state. Physical violence is the modus operandi of the state and its basis for existence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway

That's how prisons should be.

Keep in mind that most of the US Right Wing users view Norway as a failed socialist state or claim it only does so well because it's a tiny ethnostate.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

polyamorous relationships between consenting parties are as good/bad as monogamous ones.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

:meh:

There are crimes that are threats to society but which are not in themselves harmful. Ponzi schemes, for example.


That's my point. You can't decry physical violence without also decrying the state. Physical violence is the modus operandi of the state and its basis for existence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway

That's how prisons should be.

But violence is used to force compliance to imprisonment (e.g. restraining an escaping convict). Anyway, if liberty is valued in liberal thinking why is prolonged deprivation of it considered a lesser punishment to a shorter loss of it (merely detained for minutes or hours in which corporal punishment might take place)

[Jedi Council]

:meh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway

That's how prisons should be.

But violence is used to force compliance to imprisonment (e.g. restraining an escaping convict). Anyway, if liberty is valued in liberal thinking why is prolonged deprivation of it considered a lesser punishment to a shorter loss of it (merely detained for minutes or hours in which corporal punishment might take place)

Because physical harm is a greater infringement upon liberty than merely restricted movement.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Before we even get into the issue of what should or should not be done to fellow human beings, what is the point?

What is the benefit of lashing criminals? Who gains what from performing this action?

[Adamede]

Before we even get into the issue of what should or should not be done to fellow human beings, what is the point?

What is the benefit of lashing criminals? Who gains what from performing this action?

People with a domination kink.

[The Blaatschapen]

Not humans generally, women specifically

Really? Women are specifically monogamous by nature? I assume you can back that up with some sort of evidence? Both my wife and my girlfriend would disagree with you.

The jokester in me will say:

I can confirm.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

What is the benefit of lashing criminals?

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

[Necroghastia]

What is the benefit of lashing criminals?

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

Community service? Something constructive?
The article you linked even points out the merits of denunciation are dubious.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Community service?

Isn’t that too lenient for the crimes I mentioned?
Also it’s less of a deterrent.

[Necroghastia]

Community service?

Isn’t that too lenient for the crimes I mentioned?

You mentioned one crime. The other was like... the hell even lmao
In any case it's more civilized than lashes, jesus christ.

Also it’s less of a deterrent.

Source?

[Jedi Council]

What is the benefit of lashing criminals?

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

Adultery is not a crime.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

Adultery is not a crime.

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

[Jedi Council]

Adultery is not a crime.

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

I had even missed that bit but yes, false accusation of adultery is definitely not a crime

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Adultery is not a crime.

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

No you’re accuser must be

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

No you’re accuser must be

so if i say a guy's cheating and it turns out he isn't i must be publically flogged? sounds like bs to me.

[Jedi Council]

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

No you’re accuser must be

Thats exceptionally draconian, you do realize that right?

[Leiden Federated Allied State]

Why? Assuming everybody is OK with it, because choice matters, if my partner meets, say, my companionship needs and not my sexual needs, and vice versa, what's harmful about having partners that meet our sexual needs at the same time? This, fortunately, transcends the question of gender.

Because sexual jealousy is a natural emotion which can cause rivalry amongst males, dividing the state. I feel like this is the reason why most polyandrous societies either suffer from civil war (some tribes in tribal Nepal practice polyandry), inter-tribal rivalry (the Comanche) or are occupied by the enemy (Tibet). Sparta is the exception but literally everything in Sparta was about war.

True because it can sometimes lead to feuds between the male partners, that being said if happens to a female monarch with many husbands, they could have severe trust issues as it can possibly lead to a divisive state as they fight for dominance as the most favored by the woman. It is also possible that the woman may contract sexually transmitted diseases as many men enjoy the comfort of a prostitute.

[Jedi Council]

Because sexual jealousy is a natural emotion which can cause rivalry amongst males, dividing the state. I feel like this is the reason why most polyandrous societies either suffer from civil war (some tribes in tribal Nepal practice polyandry), inter-tribal rivalry (the Comanche) or are occupied by the enemy (Tibet). Sparta is the exception but literally everything in Sparta was about war.

True because it can sometimes lead to feuds between the male partners, that being said if happens to a female monarch with many husbands, they could have severe trust issues as it can possibly lead to a divisive state as they fight for dominance as the most favored by the woman. It is also possible that the woman may contract sexually transmitted diseases as many men enjoy the comfort of a prostitute.

I was prepared to give this an actual response until I finished reading it.

So a flabbergasted "what the fuck" will have to do.

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Why? Assuming everybody is OK with it, because choice matters, if my partner meets, say, my companionship needs and not my sexual needs, and vice versa, what's harmful about having partners that meet our sexual needs at the same time? This, fortunately, transcends the question of gender.

Because sexual jealousy is a natural emotion which can cause rivalry amongst males, dividing the state. I feel like this is the reason why most polyandrous societies either suffer from civil war (some tribes in tribal Nepal practice polyandry), inter-tribal rivalry (the Comanche) or are occupied by the enemy (Tibet). Sparta is the exception but literally everything in Sparta was about war.

How does polyamory have anything to do with China controlling Tibet? Do you think Tibet had a big army but they were all at swinger parties so China saw a chance to pounce?

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Because sexual jealousy is a natural emotion which can cause rivalry amongst males, dividing the state. I feel like this is the reason why most polyandrous societies either suffer from civil war (some tribes in tribal Nepal practice polyandry), inter-tribal rivalry (the Comanche) or are occupied by the enemy (Tibet). Sparta is the exception but literally everything in Sparta was about war.

How does polyamory have anything to do with China controlling Tibet? Do you think Tibet had a big army but they were all at swinger parties so China saw a chance to pounce?

china controls tibet because the chinese army has strict rules against polyandry, though the men do enjoy the company of multiple women from the nations they conquer

[Adamede]

What is the benefit of lashing criminals?

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

Fines, jail time, etc.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Deference and denunciation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denunciation_(penology)).

What do you think would be a better punishment for sexual harassment, false accusations of adultery etcetera?

Fines, jail time, etc.

just like any other crime, though i think "false accusations of adultery" aren't a crime

[Adamede]

especially not "false accusations of adultery
mfw i am single and am accused of cheating and must now be publicly flogged "

No you’re accuser must be

How about we just don’t flog people?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

No you’re accuser must be

How about we just don’t flog people?

You’re free to make a thread on this “is judicial corporal punishment justified?” or some such title would be available.