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Is cereal soup?

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Is Cereal Soup?

Yes
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Yes in saying that it is with milk or water
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No
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Your A Crazy Person THUS I do not care
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Is cereal soup?

Postby East British Indian Company » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:45 am

Definition of soup: Soup is a primarily liquid food, generally served warm or hot, that is made by combining ingredients of meat or vegetables with stock, or water. Hot soups are additionally characterized by boiling solid ingredients in liquids in a pot until the flavors are extracted, forming a broth.
Yet it can be made cold if your crazy and can be made from greens.
Thus, can cereal be soup?
I believe so!
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Postby New haven america » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:49 am

Yes.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:53 am

Cereal is a time Vortex.
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:04 am

No but it is pasta.
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Postby Free Las Pinas » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:08 am

Cereals are seeds/grains of grasses. Putting grains into milk doesn’t make soup.

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Postby THe KINGdOM OF ANATOLiA » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:11 am

"Definition of soup: Soup is a primarily liquid food, generally served warm or hot, that is made by combining ingredients of meat or vegetables with stock, or water. Hot soups are additionally characterized by boiling solid ingredients in liquids in a pot until the flavors are extracted, forming a broth."
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Postby The Three Palins » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:12 am

Cold soup does not have to be cooked, so the definition seems to affirm.

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Postby Elsa De Arendelle » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:20 am

Gazpacho requires no cooking yet it's still viewed as a soup.

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Postby East British Indian Company » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:26 am

The Three Palins wrote:Cold soup does not have to be cooked, so the definition seems to affirm.

How could you let this vital question go un-polled?

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Postby The Three Palins » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 am

"Bowl of cereal" more strongly implies "ready to eat". And "packet of cereal" would be the opposite.

So my final ruling is "sometimes"

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Postby New Ruchaar » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:32 am

Ive had this conversation more times than I want.

Soup is made from boiling meat or vegetables and is liquid.

Cereal only describes the cereal. It does not describe breakfast cereal which is the cereal and the milk. “Cereal” describes a kind of grain. It is a solid.

Cereal is in no way shape or form a soup.
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No because I never have it with milk oltte 8)
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Postby The Three Palins » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:39 am

New Ruchaar wrote:Ive had this conversation more times than I want.

Soup is made from boiling meat or vegetables and is liquid.

Cereal only describes the cereal. It does not describe breakfast cereal which is the cereal and the milk. “Cereal” describes a kind of grain. It is a solid.

Cereal is in no way shape or form a soup.


Soup: can only be one thing, and gazpacho soup isn't soup because it doesn't fit your definition

Cereal: can only be one thing (grain etc) and when someone puts "cereal" on the shopping list you will bring them the cheapest cereal by weight, but it's wheat for feeding chickens.

Cereal is always a soup, if you define the terms differently.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:40 am

Given the existence of cold and uncooked soups, yes.
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Postby Port Spratly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:49 am

Is rice congee a soup?

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Postby Esternial » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:52 am

Clearly you are all novices in food taxonomy.

Cereal with milk has some relation to soup, but does not fit within the genus. It's an assembly-only dish, whereas soups typically involve cooking or blending. Soups require a power outlet or a heat source.

That isn't to say a soup can't be like a cereal. Letter soup is sort of a cereal, in the same way dolphins are fish. They're not - they're mammals, but they have resembling properties. This we call convergent evolution - letter soup and cereal are like dolphins and sharks.

Note also you typically add cereal first, then the milk. For letter soup, it's usually the other way around.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:56 am

Port Spratly wrote:Is rice congee a soup?


Porridge is a type of soup, so yes.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:56 am

No. Soup, like sandwiches, is whatever I believe it to be, and my understanding of it does not include cereal, at least as we know it.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Port Spratly wrote:Is rice congee a soup?


Porridge is a type of soup, so yes.

Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:58 am

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Porridge is a type of soup, so yes.

Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.


Yes

Embrace your soup overlords.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:59 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.


Yes

Embrace your soup overlords.

I always found the concept of "liquid food" suspicious. Now I see why.
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Postby Port Spratly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:00 am

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Porridge is a type of soup, so yes.

Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.


The difference between soup and stews is the amount of liquid they contain. While soups contain enough cooking liquid to fill a bowl and allow its ingredients to float, stews contain just a bit of cooking liquid to simmer the other ingredients.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:02 am

Port Spratly wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.


The difference between soup and stews is the amount of liquid they contain. While soups contain enough cooking liquid to fill a bowl and allow its ingredients to float, stews contain just a bit of cooking liquid to simmer the other ingredients.

Where do you draw the line on substances like porridge or congee? Would a thick and a thin porridge be entirely different types of food, despite being... the same food? It makes no sense. Trying to define this stuff is like trying to take over Afghanistan and Vietnam at the same time
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:02 am

soup is soup
cereal is cereal
in conclusion, hot dogs are sandwiches
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Postby Esternial » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:05 am

Port Spratly wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Are all stews soups now too? This is why one can't blunder into trying to draw empirical lines between types of food.


The difference between soup and stews is the amount of liquid they contain. While soups contain enough cooking liquid to fill a bowl and allow its ingredients to float, stews contain just a bit of cooking liquid to simmer the other ingredients.

Stews are typically also more thick in consistency of the "cooking liquid", either because of the addition of cornstarch or other means.

You're all looking at this question far too simply. There isn't but one difference between soup, stew and cereal. There are so many unique and identifying traits. End this culinary reductionism!

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