Corporal punishment of children 「Yes or No?」

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

It absolutely should be allowed.

I believe in the truth of the the phrase “Spare the rod and spoil the child”, and I’ve seen enough of these Gen Alpha kids in public to know why corporal punishment of children is needed. I’m a minor, and I got spanked with a wooden spoon if I did something like disrespect my parents. The thing is, it worked. While I wasn’t an ass to my parents all the time, the spanking was a preemptive measure to prevent such a problem in the future. To those who say that use of a “weapon” is excessive, in the case of spanking or belt whipping, touching a kid’s ass is pretty fucking weird if you ask me. Of course, excessive corporal punishment for the sake of hitting some poor kid is just sick, but when used in moderation, it works. A lot of smaller kids who are at the age when this should be happening aren’t disciplined at all. I see them openly scream at their parents in public when they are told “no” for once in their life. The parents of these children are so concerned with not hurting their little precious that the forgo all parental authority and responsibilities just so their kid is “happy”.

Thanks for letting me know that beating kids is mostly about status.

[Nevertopia]

the body of evidence regarding childhood development have categorically placed corporal punishment of children as ineffective and as a vector for delinquency and criminal behaviour in later stages of life. It is with this evidence and body of work that I make the case that corporal punishment for children is not only ineffective but damaging to the child's growth in the long-term. As social animals dogs have a few things in common with humans, one of those things is how one raises a dog is directly linked to how the pet behaves as it gets older. An abused dog will become violent and a loved dog will become affectionate, there are parallels of this with humans. Childhood trauma is linked with mental illness and behavioural problems later in life much like how a dog would behave when abused. While it wont be a literal translation to a human child, the case is that corporal punishment adversely affects the growth of a child. The answer is simple.

No.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

the body of evidence regarding childhood development have categorically placed corporal punishment of children as ineffective and as a vector for delinquency and criminal behaviour in later stages of life. It is with this evidence and body of work that I make the case that corporal punishment for children is not only ineffective but damaging to the child's growth in the long-term. As social animals dogs have a few things in common with humans, one of those things is how one raises a dog is directly linked to how the pet behaves as it gets older. An abused dog will become violent and a loved dog will become affectionate, there are parallels of this with humans. Childhood trauma is linked with mental illness and behavioural problems later in life much like how a dog would behave when abused. While it wont be a literal translation to a human child, the case is that corporal punishment adversely affects the growth of a child. The answer is simple.

No.

If you read the poster above me you will see that it is not about childhood development haha. Instead it is about social control and power show (show that parents are the dictators with impunity). For its intended use beating children indeed works very well.

[Nevertopia]

the body of evidence regarding childhood development have categorically placed corporal punishment of children as ineffective and as a vector for delinquency and criminal behaviour in later stages of life. It is with this evidence and body of work that I make the case that corporal punishment for children is not only ineffective but damaging to the child's growth in the long-term. As social animals dogs have a few things in common with humans, one of those things is how one raises a dog is directly linked to how the pet behaves as it gets older. An abused dog will become violent and a loved dog will become affectionate, there are parallels of this with humans. Childhood trauma is linked with mental illness and behavioural problems later in life much like how a dog would behave when abused. While it wont be a literal translation to a human child, the case is that corporal punishment adversely affects the growth of a child. The answer is simple.

No.

If you read the poster above me you will see that it is not about childhood development haha. Instead it is about social control and power show (show that parents are the dictators with impunity). For its intended use beating children indeed works very well.

If you understood textbook childhood development you would understand that for its intended use beating children doesnt work very well because they just learn to hide the behaviour and only teaches them to give the impression that they are being controlled and dominated.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

If you read the poster above me you will see that it is not about childhood development haha. Instead it is about social control and power show (show that parents are the dictators with impunity). For its intended use beating children indeed works very well.

If you understood textbook childhood development you would understand that for its intended use beating children doesnt work very well because they just learn to hide the behaviour and only teaches them to give the impression that they are being controlled and dominated.

Well that’s indeed what I don’t know about. Given that BDSM and cults exist I would assume that some level of physical pain is effective in controlling a person and preventing them from unorthodox thoughts.

Hell I never thought about these things before since I’m not authoritarian and can not understand why some humans derive happiness from such behavior.

[Nevertopia]

If you understood textbook childhood development you would understand that for its intended use beating children doesnt work very well because they just learn to hide the behaviour and only teaches them to give the impression that they are being controlled and dominated.

Well that’s indeed what I don’t know about. Given that BDSM and cults exist I would assume that some level of physical pain is effective in controlling a person and preventing them from unorthodox thoughts.

Youre just a kid arent you? As an adult I hope you look back at what you just said and realized how embarrassing it is.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Well that’s indeed what I don’t know about. Given that BDSM and cults exist I would assume that some level of physical pain is effective in controlling a person and preventing them from unorthodox thoughts.

Youre just a kid arent you? As an adult I hope you look back at what you just said and realized how embarrassing it is.

“Youre just a kid”

Nope. Moreover it is interesting that you use the word “kid” as an insult.

I’m generally fine with people admitting all kinds of antisocial motives. However dishonesty is not something I tolerate very well. Please just admit that you think children are subhuman.

Yeah I get that most people are not as honest as Robin Hanson.

[Nevertopia]

Youre just a kid arent you? As an adult I hope you look back at what you just said and realized how embarrassing it is.

“Youre just a kid”

Nope. Moreover it is interesting that you use the word “kid” as an insult.

I’m generally fine with people admitting all kinds of antisocial motives. However dishonesty is not something I tolerate very well. Please just admit that you think children are subhuman.

Yeah I get that most people are not as honest as Robin Hanson.

If you understood what I said you wouldnt have replied this way.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

“Youre just a kid”

Nope. Moreover it is interesting that you use the word “kid” as an insult.

I’m generally fine with people admitting all kinds of antisocial motives. However dishonesty is not something I tolerate very well. Please just admit that you think children are subhuman.

Yeah I get that most people are not as honest as Robin Hanson.

If you understood what I said you wouldnt have replied this way.

You are not engaging in a rational discussion which I’m very glad to know. Instead you simply try to parent me as if a random rebel who have freed himself from parentism is so dangerous that he has to be controlled right now.

This is evidence that I have exposed a dark corner of human hypocrisy and now humans are embarrassed.

[Sanghyeok]

If you read the poster above me you will see that it is not about childhood development haha. Instead it is about social control and power show (show that parents are the dictators with impunity). For its intended use beating children indeed works very well.

If you understood textbook childhood development you would understand that for its intended use beating children doesnt work very well because they just learn to hide the behaviour and only teaches them to give the impression that they are being controlled and dominated.

I'm shocked we're in agreement here, but you're right. Studies have shown that corporal punishment not only fails to be effective in disciplining but also leads to many problems in their emotional and (possibly) cognitive development later on.