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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:31 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:The idea that white people weren't enslaved is really funny when you actually know European history. It's not like Italy is famous for having one of the largest slave revolts ever that nearly broke the Roman Republic or anything.


Some people really take the Olympics of suffering seriously. Gotta be uniquely victimized.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:32 am

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Greater Malegron wrote:The mask comes off. You proved my point better than I could have. Let me guess, "you don't see race"?

I'm not colorblind, I see people of other races being denied opportunities and treated like subhumans because people think it has some sort of meaning.


I think Malegron actually thinks there's a scientific basis for race. Otherwise they're angry at a group of people that doesn't exist.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:51 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I'm not colorblind, I see people of other races being denied opportunities and treated like subhumans because people think it has some sort of meaning.


I think Malegron actually thinks there's a scientific basis for race. Otherwise they're angry at a group of people that doesn't exist.

She’s openly defended melanin theory. Which reminds me. Apparently there was some joke going around about the solstice or something like that.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:00 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:The idea that white people weren't enslaved is really funny when you actually know European history. It's not like Italy is famous for having one of the largest slave revolts ever that nearly broke the Roman Republic or anything.


Some people really take the Olympics of suffering seriously. Gotta be uniquely victimized.


Better having Israel while screamed at than dying in concentration camps while pitied.

Being victimized is not something honorable and worth celebrating. Instead it is something worth examining. Why did we get hurt? What could we have done to avoid that? What can we learn from the unfortunate events in terms of strategy and tactics?

For example “what shall Carthage have done to defeat Rome or at least survive it” is worth discussing. “How evil was the Roman Republic to Carthage” on the other hand is not worth discussing if you are actually Carthagian since discussing it does not actually improve Carthage or its diaspora in any way. It might be a useful topic in Roman internal politics or German / Persian propaganda but it is not very useful for surviving Carthagians.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:17 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I think Malegron actually thinks there's a scientific basis for race. Otherwise they're angry at a group of people that doesn't exist.

She’s openly defended melanin theory. Which reminds me. Apparently there was some joke going around about the solstice or something like that.

The joke is that black people will get superpowers for some reason
I don’t find it funny, but hey
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:19 am

Kowani wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:She’s openly defended melanin theory. Which reminds me. Apparently there was some joke going around about the solstice or something like that.

The joke is that black people will get superpowers for some reason
I don’t find it funny, but hey

I’d have bet good money Malegron believed it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:20 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I think Malegron actually thinks there's a scientific basis for race. Otherwise they're angry at a group of people that doesn't exist.

She’s openly defended melanin theory. Which reminds me. Apparently there was some joke going around about the solstice or something like that.


Black people were supposed to get superpowers. I'm sure someone already tried to fly only to realize to their horror that they were wrong.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:21 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Some people really take the Olympics of suffering seriously. Gotta be uniquely victimized.


Better having Israel while screamed at than dying in concentration camps while pitied.


Implying that's the only two choices.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:30 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Better having Israel while screamed at than dying in concentration camps while pitied.


Implying that's the only two choices.


The former is the best though.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:01 pm

Stylan wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
Either way, it's like the strawman of online leftism come to life.

Yeah, I imagine he's trolling. From the black nationalist flag to what he says - he has to be an advanced troll.


"Call of Fascism: Advanced Trollfare."
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:02 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Implying that's the only two choices.


The former is the best though.


Still though, doesn't change the fact that there are more that 2 choices.
That's what we call a "black and white fallacy".
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:35 pm

How about... Cultural Posadism?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:49 pm

Diarcesia wrote:How about... Cultural Posadism?


That's just storm area 51.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:26 pm

Zamundha wrote:(Image)


Nice picture.
What's this got to do with anything?
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How the hell did this happen?
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Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:36 pm

Well that whole incident was...interesting.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:38 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:How about... Cultural Posadism?


That's just storm area 51.

And Cultural Maoism?
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:37 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Stylan wrote:Yeah, I imagine he's trolling. From the black nationalist flag to what he says - he has to be an advanced troll.


"Call of Fascism: Advanced Trollfare."

Are all of you just unable to fathom the idea that an unironic racist who isn't a nazi could exist? This is why the left is losing. We refuse to own up to rot from within. Not every asshole is a white supremacist troll.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:43 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
"Call of Fascism: Advanced Trollfare."

Are all of you just unable to fathom the idea that an unironic racist who isn't a nazi could exist? This is why the left is losing. We refuse to own up to rot from within. Not every asshole is a white supremacist troll.

Of course overt racists who aren't Nazis or even white supremacists exist, but they're not the greatest threat given their lack of numbers or power. And people like that aren't exactly leftist.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:48 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Are all of you just unable to fathom the idea that an unironic racist who isn't a nazi could exist? This is why the left is losing. We refuse to own up to rot from within. Not every asshole is a white supremacist troll.

Of course overt racists who aren't Nazis or even white supremacists exist, but they're not the greatest threat given their lack of numbers or power. And people like that aren't exactly leftist.

I didn't say they were leftist. They do hang around leftist circles though. And what irks me is that GM is a legit, actual racist, but you guys can't accept that and assume she's a troll. So when I say you guys can't fathom it, I mean it.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:49 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Of course overt racists who aren't Nazis or even white supremacists exist, but they're not the greatest threat given their lack of numbers or power. And people like that aren't exactly leftist.

I didn't say they were leftist. They do hang around leftist circles though. And what irks me is that GM is a legit, actual racist, but you guys can't accept that and assume she's a troll. So when I say you guys can't fathom it, I mean it.

They may very well be racist, I haven't denied that at all.
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Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
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Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:50 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I didn't say they were leftist. They do hang around leftist circles though. And what irks me is that GM is a legit, actual racist, but you guys can't accept that and assume she's a troll. So when I say you guys can't fathom it, I mean it.

They may very well be racist, I haven't denied that at all.

New Yugo, Stylan, and Stroakuss did.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:52 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
"Call of Fascism: Advanced Trollfare."

Are all of you just unable to fathom the idea that an unironic racist who isn't a nazi could exist? This is why the left is losing. We refuse to own up to rot from within. Not every asshole is a white supremacist troll.


That's not what I was saying. I was just making a quick joke.
I do understand that non-Nazi/white racists do exist.
Doesn't matter where racism comes from. Doesn't matter if it favours whites, blacks, yellows, browns, blues, greens, purples...
Racism is racism, and racism is not cool.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Sure, there's factbooks and stuff, but they don't really matter because the owner of this account is a lazy, unproductive, indecisive loser who may or may not have a thing for half human hybrids, big mechs and even bigger ships.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:55 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Are all of you just unable to fathom the idea that an unironic racist who isn't a nazi could exist? This is why the left is losing. We refuse to own up to rot from within. Not every asshole is a white supremacist troll.


That's not what I was saying. I was just making a quick joke.
I do understand that non-Nazi/white racists do exist.
Doesn't matter where racism comes from. Doesn't matter if it favours whites, blacks, yellows, browns, blues, greens, purples...
Racism is racism, and racism is not cool.

Well fine. Jury's still out on Stylan and Stroakuss.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:40 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
That's not what I was saying. I was just making a quick joke.
I do understand that non-Nazi/white racists do exist.
Doesn't matter where racism comes from. Doesn't matter if it favours whites, blacks, yellows, browns, blues, greens, purples...
Racism is racism, and racism is not cool.

Well fine. Jury's still out on Stylan and Stroakuss.


The person in question is not a Nazi and is a racist.

Hope that clears things up even though I have never said Nazis or white people hold a monopoly on racism. After all, black separatists exist.
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Postby Nilokeras » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:47 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Of course overt racists who aren't Nazis or even white supremacists exist, but they're not the greatest threat given their lack of numbers or power. And people like that aren't exactly leftist.

I didn't say they were leftist. They do hang around leftist circles though. And what irks me is that GM is a legit, actual racist, but you guys can't accept that and assume she's a troll. So when I say you guys can't fathom it, I mean it.


One would have hoped you've been around the site long enough to develop your sense of credulity about such things but alas.
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