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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:11 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Nothing that can't be handled by decentralized workers' councils.

The same worker’s councils that… cause violence and anarchy within their own borders?

How does one "cause anarchy", and how can I join?
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:11 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Nothing that can't be handled by decentralized workers' councils.

The same worker’s councils that… cause violence and anarchy within their own borders?

Those ones, though I don't mean anarchy in the anarchy=chaos sense.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:12 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The same worker’s councils that… cause violence and anarchy within their own borders?

How does one "cause anarchy", and how can I join?

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Postby The Three Palins » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:12 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:This is why the second amendment is so important in America, so people can protect themselves from violent looters, vandals and anarchists


This is why better education about the second amendment is so important in America.

I'm not on your side, but still I have sympathy for any young punk who thinks it's legal to go out in the street and defend other people's property from "looters, vandals and anarchists". Even if the person they shoot turns out to be a real bad hombre, it's still a tragic waste of their life when the judge doesn't buy "free State means free estate so my client was acting constitutionally" and sends them down for Murder Two.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:12 pm

Nakena wrote:For a moment I thought literally "Vandals joined the fight in the US wtf?".

I mean imagine. Vandals are coming. Just because, its, uhm 2020.


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Postby Atheris » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:14 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nakena wrote:For a moment I thought literally "Vandals joined the fight in the US wtf?".

I mean imagine. Vandals are coming. Just because, its, uhm 2020.


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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:21 pm

Atheris wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Nothing that can't be handled by decentralized workers' councils.

Everything that can't be handled by decentralized workers' councils.

Having a competent military would be a good start, their consistent failure at that is the reason any revolutionary anarchist commune gets effortlessly crushed (for the better I must add)

Cordel One wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The same worker’s councils that… cause violence and anarchy within their own borders?

Those ones, though I don't mean anarchy in the anarchy=chaos sense.

That’s what it always practically ends up as, Marxism may be a viable threat, but anarchism is a joke
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:23 pm

The Three Palins wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:This is why the second amendment is so important in America, so people can protect themselves from violent looters, vandals and anarchists


This is why better education about the second amendment is so important in America.

I'm not on your side, but still I have sympathy for any young punk who thinks it's legal to go out in the street and defend other people's property from "looters, vandals and anarchists". Even if the person they shoot turns out to be a real bad hombre, it's still a tragic waste of their life when the judge doesn't buy "free State means free estate so my client was acting constitutionally" and sends them down for Murder Two.

Here’s a good idea

Random 4chan kids shouldn’t be enforcing the law, neither should police who care more about projecting their toughness than anything. We need to have a system like the French, where the military does the job of law enforcement, civilian police have proven to be bad at their job
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:24 pm

The Slayers Republic wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:"Fine people on both sides"

Do you have a problem with that statement?

I do. I'm worried that the amount is unspecified.

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Postby The Slayers Republic » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:44 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The Slayers Republic wrote:Do you have a problem with that statement?

I do. I'm worried that the amount is unspecified.

Ah, ok. That's understandable.

I was half expecting Sanghyeok to spam a wall of text that was "explaining" why I'm wrong while also being riddled with logical fallacies.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
The Three Palins wrote:
This is why better education about the second amendment is so important in America.

I'm not on your side, but still I have sympathy for any young punk who thinks it's legal to go out in the street and defend other people's property from "looters, vandals and anarchists". Even if the person they shoot turns out to be a real bad hombre, it's still a tragic waste of their life when the judge doesn't buy "free State means free estate so my client was acting constitutionally" and sends them down for Murder Two.

Here’s a good idea

Random 4chan kids shouldn’t be enforcing the law, neither should police who care more about projecting their toughness than anything. We need to have a system like the French, where the military does the job of law enforcement, civilian police have proven to be bad at their job

I... never expected myself to be agreeing with a fascist, but hey, stranger things have happened. I'd certainly appreciate a US Gendarmerie.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:18 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Atheris wrote:Everything that can't be handled by decentralized workers' councils.

Having a competent military would be a good start, their consistent failure at that is the reason any revolutionary anarchist commune gets effortlessly crushed (for the better I must add)

Cordel One wrote:Those ones, though I don't mean anarchy in the anarchy=chaos sense.

That’s what it always practically ends up as, Marxism may be a viable threat, but anarchism is a joke

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Postby Chernoslavia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:58 pm

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Violence from both sides suck and need to be severely punished. It is one thing to express an opinion and it is something else to resort to force.

"Fine people on both sides"


He's just saying that anyone who does violence needs to be punished. And I agree with him.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:06 pm

Oh don’t worry, it doesn’t count if it’s ~real Americans~ defending themselves against more... cosmopolitan? *urban*?... populations ;)
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Postby Aeritai » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:33 pm

Hitting African-American Churches huh? That's really hypocritical of them to do that sort of thing.
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Postby Mecha Bavarian » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:27 pm

Excuse me, i am a dumb foreigner, but America have churches only for black people?
Does that means that i can not pray to God there?
Can i go to an all-white church there?
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:09 am

Mecha Bavarian wrote:Excuse me, i am a dumb foreigner, but America have churches only for black people?
Does that means that i can not pray to God there?
Can i go to an all-white church there?

No.
It just means that the congregations of those churches are majority black.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:13 am

Mecha Bavarian wrote:Excuse me, i am a dumb foreigner, but America have churches only for black people?
Does that means that i can not pray to God there?
Can i go to an all-white church there?


They're leftovers of the segregation era, where congregations were split on racial lines.

Tat being said, I doubt anyone would prevent you from visiting or attending regularly these days.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:26 am

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Mecha Bavarian wrote:Excuse me, i am a dumb foreigner, but America have churches only for black people?
Does that means that i can not pray to God there?
Can i go to an all-white church there?


They're leftovers of the segregation era, where congregations were split on racial lines.

Tat being said, I doubt anyone would prevent you from visiting or attending regularly these days.


In general?....sure. After the the last church shooter (I forgot his name), you will probably be watched.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:28 am

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Postby ImperialRussia » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:34 am

More evidence that police force needs to reform suppress vandals and rioters under the democratic party

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Postby Mecha Bavarian » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:37 am

Kowani wrote:No.
It just means that the congregations of those churches are majority black.


So the title "Black Churches" is misleading. It shoudl say: "Churches that are usually visited by blacks".
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Postby The Three Palins » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:49 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Mecha Bavarian wrote:Excuse me, i am a dumb foreigner, but America have churches only for black people?
Does that means that i can not pray to God there?
Can i go to an all-white church there?


They're leftovers of the segregation era, where congregations were split on racial lines.

Tat being said, I doubt anyone would prevent you from visiting or attending regularly these days.


And have remained split on religious lines. If a white Christian moves into the area and goes along to their local church, it probably won't be the race of the congregation that makes them not want to come back. Or even not feeling welcome. It will be because they're used to Mainline Protestant and Southern Baptist is quite different.

I'm not sure if that's maintaining segregation, or if it's outweighed by the white Christians who keep coming back and build links between the white and black communities through church. I think the church-goers who really want segregation are probably gathering some place else not in church, so at worst the effect of Christianity to continue segregation would be neutral.
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Postby The Three Palins » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:54 am

Mecha Bavarian wrote:
Kowani wrote:No.
It just means that the congregations of those churches are majority black.


So the title "Black Churches" is misleading. It shoudl say: "Churches that are usually visited by blacks".


With colleges we say "traditionally black college" and most people can figure out that they still have mostly black students.

I'm a lot more tolerant of self-segregation in church, than in college. It's segregation by choice, but churches are a refuge from the world. Colleges should be more a reflection of the world outside. In any case, as long as they're not turning people away for their race, I guess it has to be tolerated.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:49 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
The Three Palins wrote:
This is why better education about the second amendment is so important in America.

I'm not on your side, but still I have sympathy for any young punk who thinks it's legal to go out in the street and defend other people's property from "looters, vandals and anarchists". Even if the person they shoot turns out to be a real bad hombre, it's still a tragic waste of their life when the judge doesn't buy "free State means free estate so my client was acting constitutionally" and sends them down for Murder Two.

Here’s a good idea

Random 4chan kids shouldn’t be enforcing the law, neither should police who care more about projecting their toughness than anything. We need to have a system like the French, where the military does the job of law enforcement, civilian police have proven to be bad at their job


Nope. That’s a very bad idea.
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