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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:26 pm

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Nope. I do gain a lot from bashing China and its traditionalism. Even if WWIII happens and after that a new China is popular I will still bash it. Its political system and international alignment do not matter.


Ah, so you're just a massive racist then.


Nope. I’m a social liberal who escaped from China hence I want China to be abolished for as long as China exists I’m not safe.
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Postby Federal Asia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:28 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Ah, so you're just a massive racist then.


Nope. I’m a social liberal who escaped from China hence I want China to be abolished for as long as China exists I’m not safe.


They're really broke at Langley uh?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:28 pm

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Nope. I’m a social liberal who escaped from China hence I want China to be abolished for as long as China exists I’m not safe.


They're really out of money at Langley uh?


I don’t actually know what Langley is.

Let’s return to the topic.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:34 pm

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...What do you actually know about Confucian philosophy?


I do. I do need to let you know that it does not treat women and children well. The latter is my real personal motivation to oppose any iteration of China.


And how is that different from Western patriarchy?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:36 pm

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I do. I do need to let you know that it does not treat women and children well. The latter is my real personal motivation to oppose any iteration of China.


And how is that different from Western patriarchy?


Western patriarchy is among the more moderate ones on this planet since at least it allows married men to be free from their parents. Please read some Emmanuel Todd if you are not sure about levels of the hell of patriarchy.

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Even then, western patriarchy is still evil. I oppose all patriarchies and especially the worst ones.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:44 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
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Ah, so you're just a massive racist then.


Nope. I’m a social liberal who escaped from China hence I want China to be abolished for as long as China exists I’m not safe.


Yet it also sounds like even if China adopted Western principles you would still advocate for its destruction.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:45 pm

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Nope. I’m a social liberal who escaped from China hence I want China to be abolished for as long as China exists I’m not safe.


Yet it also sounds like even if China adopted Western principles you would still advocate for its destruction.


Well that’s really because I don’t think it would. By opposing the traditional family and daring to suggest that people don’t have to obey their patriarchs I have trampled on the most sacred value in Sinic cultures. If communists are gone and traditionalists are back do you think the culture will condemn me less? Moreover right now Xi and his communists are allies of traditionalists.

Life is interesting and people can be creative in the West precisely because it is not full of parentism and other forms of authoritarianism.

Now you see my point of view? You don’t usually see me being emotional over anything but beating kids and any mention of traditional China do make me even madder than even communist China. So you know what my real beef is with.

Let’s return to the topic..
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:55 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Yet it also sounds like even if China adopted Western principles you would still advocate for its destruction.


Well that’s really because I don’t think it would. By opposing the traditional family and daring to suggest that people don’t have to obey their patriarchs I have trampled on the most sacred value in Sinic cultures. If communists are gone and traditionalists are back do you think the culture will condemn me less? Moreover right now Xi and his communists are allies of traditionalists.

Life is interesting and people can be creative in the West precisely because it is not full of parentism and other forms of authoritarianism.

Now you see my point of view? You don’t usually see me being emotional over anything but beating kids and any mention of traditional China do make me even madder than even communist China. So you know what my real beef is with.

Let’s return to the topic..

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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:50 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:This is why we need caning like what Singapore does. Catch them, cane them, and make them work in a labor camp for a few months to teach people to behave better.


We have caning here in Malaysia, which Singapore used to be part of until the racists kicked them out of the Federation. It's absolutely dehumanizing and barbaric.

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Freiheit Reich wrote:This is why we need caning like what Singapore does. Catch them, cane them, and make them work in a labor camp for a few months to teach people to behave better.


Sinostatism is always the worst cure of any disease. I would rather somehow trick violent extremists of any kind to handle their own problems like yakuzas as long as no civilians, defined as anyone other than these people or organized crime, get harmed.


Historical Anglostatism, actually. Caning is an artifact of British colonial rule across the present-day Commonwealth. I'm pretty sure Hong Kong also had it at one point. Caning is also practiced in many Muslim countries as a core part of sharia, namely hudud, so Islamostatism wouldn't be inaccurate either.

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Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:In order to solve violence, we just need to apply more violence.

Because that’s a solution that has never backfired on anyone that tried it throughout human history.

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You don't see much rebellion in Singapore. There are three different ethnic groups there and they are not attacking each other's places of worship. The Singapore government knows how to handle citizens that choose to be troublemakers.


"Democracy" in Singapore is a total farce. What's Singapore so afraid of that it has to curtail basic, civil liberties and political freedoms? What's Malaysia so afraid of, for that matter? Race riots and pogroms that shook both countries way back in the '60s? Get over it. Them, not you. All this is just an excuse for the city-state's rulers to justify clinging on to power. They only got lucky because Singapore's a tiny, easily-manageable chunk of rock, asphalt, and concrete compared to the Chinese behemoth up north.

Malaysia next door has been governed in a similarly authoritarian and heavy-handed manner for decades under the exact, same pretext of maintaining racial harmony at all costs and yet we are nowhere near as successful as Singapore. Like you, I've visited an advanced Asian country (Japan) and compared it favorably to Malaysia. Their roads, trains, and public infrastructure are leaps and bounds ahead of ours. I've also done likewise with New Zealand and Malaysia, NZ being, in your view, a "broken" Western society in desperate need of greatness.

I'm not prepared to risk my freedoms in search of a "better life" and national greatness, let alone have that ideal forced upon me by a communist, fascist, or Islamist regime. I'll take badly maintained roads and endemic corruption over overarching tyranny and political repression any day of the week. Malaysia over Hong Kong or Singapore, in other words.

YouTuber Laowhy86 used to compare Chinese and American cities the same way you have done. Luckily for him, he got redpilled and managed to escape China for good.

Also, for the record, Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan are actual democracies with equally prosperous economies. Hong Kong, China, and Singapore are not.

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Kowani wrote:Nope. We have video.
The BLM guy was clearly acting in self defense.
He was outnumbered, and only brandished the knife after he was shoved, at which point he tried to walk away. The crowd chased him as he was walking away, pulled down his mask over his face and punched him in the face, at which point they began beating on him. The knife wasn't used until that point.
Well, if this is true, then I wish him luck in avoiding any legal trouble for having defended himself from violent hooligans.


The Proud Boys were absolutely barbaric in the video. This is a clear-cut case of self-defense a la Rittenhouse.

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Both sides need to stop. This is simply insanity. I think both need to be investigated for connections to China and Russia.


Antifa/BLM may be ideologically related to the CCP and the CCCP, but that doesn't necessarily make them Chinese proxies. Far-leftist factions have a track record of extensive and often bloody infighting. The CCP and Antifa/BLM would sooner accuse one another of not being real communists/socialists than actually collaborate together. In the event of a communist revolution, the winning faction will be swept to power. The losing faction will be among the first to be purged in a Night of the Long Knives as Yuri Bezmenov himself warned all those years ago.

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Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:In this conflict without good faith we need to investigate both sides for connections to China and Russia.

How about we investigate the racist piles of shit who vandlised black churches and the toxic waste dump of an echo chamber that spawned them instead?


Setting fire to banners is nowhere near the same level as burning the entire church to the ground and looting and ransacking the interior. This is the equivalent of stomping on the Chinese flag or burning a copy of the Qur'an. Still a hate crime (political, not racist) given the banners were privately owned, and these hooligans still need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for infringing on private property rights. Had they set fire to their own, hand-drawn BLM banners and effigies or vandalized a public, state-owned BLM sign, statue, or monument, I would be praising them as heroes for their acts of open civil disobedience and freedom of expression instead of denouncing them for criminal intimidation.
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Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Antifa/BLM may be ideologically related to the CCP and the CCCP, but that doesn't necessarily make them Chinese proxies. Far-leftist factions have a track record of extensive and often bloody infighting. The CCP and Antifa/BLM would sooner accuse one another of not being real communists/socialists than actually collaborate together. In the event of a communist revolution, the winning faction will be swept to power. The losing faction will be among the first to be purged in a Night of the Long Knives as Yuri Bezmenov himself warned all those years ago.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:52 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:This is why we need caning like what Singapore does. Catch them, cane them, and make them work in a labor camp for a few months to teach people to behave better.


We have caning here in Malaysia, which Singapore used to be part of until the racists kicked them out of the Federation. It's absolutely dehumanizing and barbaric.

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Sinostatism is always the worst cure of any disease. I would rather somehow trick violent extremists of any kind to handle their own problems like yakuzas as long as no civilians, defined as anyone other than these people or organized crime, get harmed.


Historical Anglostatism, actually. Caning is an artifact of British colonial rule across the present-day Commonwealth. I'm pretty sure Hong Kong also had it at one point. Caning is also practiced in many Muslim countries as a core part of sharia, namely hudud, so Islamostatism wouldn't be inaccurate either.

Freiheit Reich wrote:
You don't see much rebellion in Singapore. There are three different ethnic groups there and they are not attacking each other's places of worship. The Singapore government knows how to handle citizens that choose to be troublemakers.


"Democracy" in Singapore is a total farce. What's Singapore so afraid of that it has to curtail basic, civil liberties and political freedoms? What's Malaysia so afraid of, for that matter? Race riots and pogroms that shook both countries way back in the '60s? Get over it. Them, not you. All this is just an excuse for the city-state's rulers to justify clinging on to power. They only got lucky because Singapore's a tiny, easily-manageable chunk of rock, asphalt, and concrete compared to the Chinese behemoth up north.

Malaysia next door has been governed in a similarly authoritarian and heavy-handed manner for decades under the exact, same pretext of maintaining racial harmony at all costs and yet we are nowhere near as successful as Singapore. Like you, I've visited an advanced Asian country (Japan) and compared it favorably to Malaysia. Their roads, trains, and public infrastructure are leaps and bounds ahead of ours. I've also done likewise with New Zealand and Malaysia, NZ being, in your view, a "broken" Western society in desperate need of greatness.

I'm not prepared to risk my freedoms in search of a "better life" and national greatness, let alone have that ideal forced upon me by a communist, fascist, or Islamist regime. I'll take badly maintained roads and endemic corruption over overarching tyranny and political repression any day of the week. Malaysia over Hong Kong or Singapore, in other words.

YouTuber Laowhy86 used to compare Chinese and American cities the same way you have done. Luckily for him, he got redpilled and managed to escape China for good.

Also, for the record, Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan are actual democracies with equally prosperous economies. Hong Kong, China, and Singapore are not.

Awesomeland wrote:Well, if this is true, then I wish him luck in avoiding any legal trouble for having defended himself from violent hooligans.


The Proud Boys were absolutely barbaric in the video. This is a clear-cut case of self-defense a la Rittenhouse.

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Both sides need to stop. This is simply insanity. I think both need to be investigated for connections to China and Russia.


Antifa/BLM may be ideologically related to the CCP and the CCCP, but that doesn't necessarily make them Chinese proxies. Far-leftist factions have a track record of extensive and often bloody infighting. The CCP and Antifa/BLM would sooner accuse one another of not being real communists/socialists than actually collaborate together. In the event of a communist revolution, the winning faction will be swept to power. The losing faction will be among the first to be purged in a Night of the Long Knives as Yuri Bezmenov himself warned all those years ago.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:How about we investigate the racist piles of shit who vandlised black churches and the toxic waste dump of an echo chamber that spawned them instead?


Setting fire to banners is nowhere near the same level as burning the entire church to the ground and looting and ransacking the interior. This is the equivalent of stomping on the Chinese flag or burning a copy of the Qur'an. Still a hate crime (political, not racist) given the banners were privately owned, and these hooligans still need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for infringing on private property rights. Had they set fire to their own, hand-drawn BLM banners and effigies or vandalized a public, state-owned BLM sign, statue, or monument, I would be praising them as heroes for their acts of open civil disobedience and freedom of expression instead of denouncing them for criminal intimidation.


The idea of caning is dehumanizing which is why it is so effective. Even a big tough gangster who would be the head rooster in the harshest prison will feel like a helpless child as he is hit with a cane. The humiliation is sometimes more painful than the actual pain from the cane (although that would also hurt a lot). This humiliation will teach a valuable lesson that being an A$$#@!3 is not tolerable. Vandals like Michael Fay, BLM rioters, and the jerks who destroyed banners on private property deserve to be humiliated with the cane. I bet Malaysia has less petty vandalism than the USA and I didn't see a lot of graffiti when I went there which means that perhaps caning works.
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Postby Saint Yosx » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:04 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
We have caning here in Malaysia, which Singapore used to be part of until the racists kicked them out of the Federation. It's absolutely dehumanizing and barbaric.



Historical Anglostatism, actually. Caning is an artifact of British colonial rule across the present-day Commonwealth. I'm pretty sure Hong Kong also had it at one point. Caning is also practiced in many Muslim countries as a core part of sharia, namely hudud, so Islamostatism wouldn't be inaccurate either.



"Democracy" in Singapore is a total farce. What's Singapore so afraid of that it has to curtail basic, civil liberties and political freedoms? What's Malaysia so afraid of, for that matter? Race riots and pogroms that shook both countries way back in the '60s? Get over it. Them, not you. All this is just an excuse for the city-state's rulers to justify clinging on to power. They only got lucky because Singapore's a tiny, easily-manageable chunk of rock, asphalt, and concrete compared to the Chinese behemoth up north.

Malaysia next door has been governed in a similarly authoritarian and heavy-handed manner for decades under the exact, same pretext of maintaining racial harmony at all costs and yet we are nowhere near as successful as Singapore. Like you, I've visited an advanced Asian country (Japan) and compared it favorably to Malaysia. Their roads, trains, and public infrastructure are leaps and bounds ahead of ours. I've also done likewise with New Zealand and Malaysia, NZ being, in your view, a "broken" Western society in desperate need of greatness.

I'm not prepared to risk my freedoms in search of a "better life" and national greatness, let alone have that ideal forced upon me by a communist, fascist, or Islamist regime. I'll take badly maintained roads and endemic corruption over overarching tyranny and political repression any day of the week. Malaysia over Hong Kong or Singapore, in other words.

YouTuber Laowhy86 used to compare Chinese and American cities the same way you have done. Luckily for him, he got redpilled and managed to escape China for good.

Also, for the record, Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan are actual democracies with equally prosperous economies. Hong Kong, China, and Singapore are not.



The Proud Boys were absolutely barbaric in the video. This is a clear-cut case of self-defense a la Rittenhouse.



Antifa/BLM may be ideologically related to the CCP and the CCCP, but that doesn't necessarily make them Chinese proxies. Far-leftist factions have a track record of extensive and often bloody infighting. The CCP and Antifa/BLM would sooner accuse one another of not being real communists/socialists than actually collaborate together. In the event of a communist revolution, the winning faction will be swept to power. The losing faction will be among the first to be purged in a Night of the Long Knives as Yuri Bezmenov himself warned all those years ago.



Setting fire to banners is nowhere near the same level as burning the entire church to the ground and looting and ransacking the interior. This is the equivalent of stomping on the Chinese flag or burning a copy of the Qur'an. Still a hate crime (political, not racist) given the banners were privately owned, and these hooligans still need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for infringing on private property rights. Had they set fire to their own, hand-drawn BLM banners and effigies or vandalized a public, state-owned BLM sign, statue, or monument, I would be praising them as heroes for their acts of open civil disobedience and freedom of expression instead of denouncing them for criminal intimidation.


The idea of caning is dehumanizing which is why it is so effective. Even a big tough gangster who would be the head rooster in the harshest prison will feel like a helpless child as he is hit with a cane. The humiliation is sometimes more painful than the actual pain from the cane (although that would also hurt a lot). This humiliation will teach a valuable lesson that being an A$$#@!3 is not tolerable. Vandals like Michael Fay, BLM rioters, and the jerks who destroyed banners on private property deserve to be humiliated with the cane. I bet Malaysia has less petty vandalism than the USA and I didn't see a lot of graffiti when I went there which means that perhaps caning works.



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