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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:02 am

Cordel One wrote:
Galloism wrote:So, to go back to the usage of "house on fire" to disparage and diminish other groups problems or involvement in police brutality.

Everyone should ignore black lives matter and embrace men's lives matter. I should ignore this because this is not the house that's on fire. Or at least, it's a minor kitchen fire while the other cause is a raging inferno.

Is that what we're supposed to do? Because if we're not concerned except for the house that's on fire, this is clearly the one that's on fire in the most extreme and demonstrable fashion.

Disproportionate brutality against men should be stopped, but this doesn't mean BLM should be abandoned. Look at your own graph, black men have to worry about it more than double white men.

Anyways, it's true that men are the subject of some biases that need to end, along with the idea of "alpha males".

But when it comes to the "house on fire", which has the greatest discrimination?

Or, put a better way, which would eliminating discrimination have greater impact - treating black people (highest impacted race) like asians (lowest impacted race), or treating men (highest impacted sex) like women (lowest impacted sex)?
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Postby An-Tanwir » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:03 am

This is why Antifa exists.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:04 am

An-Tanwir wrote:This is why Antifa exists.

Antifa is a joke
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:05 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
An-Tanwir wrote:This is why Antifa exists.

Antifa is a joke

So is fascism.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:14 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
An-Tanwir wrote:This is why Antifa exists.

Antifa is a joke

Anti-fascism is cool

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Postby Rusozak » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:16 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
An-Tanwir wrote:This is why Antifa exists.

Antifa is a joke


Only in a sense of beating a dead horse.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:20 am

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Freiheit Reich wrote:
Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

This is what we call "fucked up".


Even animals stereotype. A rabbit will likely run away from a dog or a tiger but not a beetle or a turtle. This relates to survival instincts. Women are much more likely to be raped by young men than old women. A woman being cautious around a young man doesn't mean she hates all young men. She is just being sensible.
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Postby Saint Yosx » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:35 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Atheris wrote:This is what we call "fucked up".


Even animals stereotype. A rabbit will likely run away from a dog or a tiger but not a beetle or a turtle. This relates to survival instincts. Women are much more likely to be raped by young men than old women. A woman being cautious around a young man doesn't mean she hates all young men. She is just being sensible.



That's not stereotyping, that's called being aware and smart. Stereotyping is assuming things that are usually exaggerated or taken to great lengths, being smart is just knowing to be careful period.

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Federal Asia
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Postby Federal Asia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:12 pm

The funny thing is that Ethiopia was Christian while these folks were still offering beer to Odin
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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:28 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Antifa is a joke

Anti-fascism is cool


Anti-fascism is very cool but a chaotic collective of privileged college students, looters, and anarchists are not. (In my book.)
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Postby Federal Asia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:30 pm

Nejii wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Anti-fascism is cool


Anti-fascism is very cool but a chaotic collective of privileged college students, looters, and anarchists are not. (In my book.)


Most WW2 European antifascist leaders had college education and organised acts of sabotage against the cops and infrastructure (see the Italian, Polish and French Resistance for example)
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:31 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Antifa is a joke

Anti-fascism is cool

I mean, if you want to be serious about it, you can do much better than milkshakes
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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:32 pm

Federal Asia wrote:
Nejii wrote:
Anti-fascism is very cool but a chaotic collective of privileged college students, looters, and anarchists are not. (In my book.)


Most WW2 European antifascist leaders had college education and organized acts of sabotage against the cops and infrastructure (see the Italian, Polish and French Resistance for example)


And ANTIFA has nothing like that.

Also, this isn't Nazi Germany or even a relatable equivalent. (They need to) Chill.
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Postby Federal Asia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:34 pm

Nejii wrote:Also, this isn't Nazi Germany or even a relatable equivalent.


That's debatable
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Postby Saint Yosx » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:34 pm

Nejii wrote:
Federal Asia wrote:
Most WW2 European antifascist leaders had college education and organized acts of sabotage against the cops and infrastructure (see the Italian, Polish and French Resistance for example)


And ANTIFA has nothing like that.

Also, this isn't Nazi Germany or even a relatable equivalent. (They need to) Chill.



yeah fighting violence with violence is never ok, that' why we must be independent. When I say independent that does not mean I'm centrists. It means that I want the best not for a party to win. ANTIFA and Fascism both equally suck.

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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:38 pm

Federal Asia wrote:
Nejii wrote:Also, this isn't Nazi Germany or even a relatable equivalent.


That's debatable


No, it's not.
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Postby Federal Asia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:40 pm

Nejii wrote:
Federal Asia wrote:
That's debatable


No, it's not.


*Reads sig*

"The Horst-Wessel-Lied is a catchy song."

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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:42 pm

Federal Asia wrote:
Nejii wrote:
No, it's not.


*Reads sig*

"The Horst-Wessel-Lied is a catchy song."

*Passes*


I appreciate melody and well orchestrated music. I also love the Soviet national anthem and I'm certainly no Marxist.
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Postby Saint Yosx » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:45 pm

Federal Asia wrote:
Nejii wrote:
No, it's not.


*Reads sig*

"The Horst-Wessel-Lied is a catchy song."

*Passes*


I mean there's lots of ideas that started in not so good places, Freedom of religion was created by Genghis Khan, Hitler made programs to decrease smoking, etc. Just because you appreciate one aspect of that culture does not mean you approve of all of it.

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Postby Section 79 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:46 pm

An-Tanwir wrote:This is why Antifa exists.


The answer to domestic terrorism isn't more domestic terrorism.

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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:47 pm

Saint Yosx wrote:
Federal Asia wrote:
*Reads sig*

"The Horst-Wessel-Lied is a catchy song."

*Passes*


I mean there's lots of ideas that started in not so good places, Freedom of religion was created by Genghis Khan, Hitler made programs to decrease smoking, etc. Just because you appreciate one aspect of that culture does not mean you approve of all of it.


Thank you. :ugeek:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:51 pm

"But guys antifa are da real boogieman!!!"

Anyway, this is shity of them to do. But not really suprised that *gasp* Trump has some racist violent criminals supporting him. Who would have known?

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Postby Nejii » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:54 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"But guys antifa are da real boogieman!!!"

Anyway, this is shity of them to do. But not really suprised that *gasp* Trump has some racist violent criminals supporting him. Who would have known?


Every side has it's extremists. "Tis unfortunate but...
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Postby Arvenia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:57 pm

Nejii wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"But guys antifa are da real boogieman!!!"

Anyway, this is shity of them to do. But not really suprised that *gasp* Trump has some racist violent criminals supporting him. Who would have known?


Every side has it's extremists. "Tis unfortunate but...

Yeah, those are the far-left and the far-right.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:59 pm

Loben III wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I mean, kinda.


Crowd control being used to control crowds, shocker.

also were the churches insured?



Gasing peaceful protesters beacuse the orange man wanted to simp for evangelical votes is not ok. Ever.

Lafayette square was more bad then the gassing of Hong Kong protesters. Beacuse you expect this shit from China but the US? No.

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