Vandals Hit Black Churches During Weekend Pro-Trump Rallies

[Freiheit Reich]

This is actually not true but leftists refuse to articles that dispute these claims. Racist police officers exist just as child molesting priests exist but it is a very tiny minority. the media just wants us to believe most cops and priests are bad. If BLM truly cared about blacks, why not work on reducing gang violence which kills a lot more blacks than police officers do? Why not work on reducing divorce rates so children don't live in single parent homes (possibly the biggest issue facing black youth today)?

Police Use of Deadly Force Is Not About Racism

https://townhall.com/columnists/davidwo ... t-n2577797

in 2018 there were approximately 7,400 black homicide victims, more than half of America’s total homicides, and nearly all were murdered by other blacks.

There actually is racism within the police force, but disregarding that, black people and BLM supporters have actually been attempting to curb gang violence etc in our communities.
Part of the reason black kids are growing up in single parent homes is the fathers keep getting shot or imprisoned for crimes white people get slaps on the wrist for or for crimes they didn’t even commit. Black on black crime is about the same rate as white on white crime and the thing is, black on black crime makes more sense, because black people are more likely to be poor, as statistically, we’re more likely to be paid less than white people for the same job and same work. Poor people are more likely to turn to crime and more likely to be involved in violent crime. A lot of it is things like robbery, because when you do have money for food you’re more likely to try and rob and kill someone who does.

You have a decent point, but explain why single parent families are much more common now than before LBJ's Great Society program made people depend on welfare instead of fathers. Also, do you think blacks in 2020 are discriminated against more vs. in 1940?

The Welfare State's Legacy

https://www.creators.com/read/walter-wi ... tes-legacy

Walter Williams: Blacks of yesteryear and today

https://triblive.com/opinion/walter-wil ... and-today/

The out-of-wedlock birth rate among Blacks in 1940 was about 11%; today, it is 75%. Black female-headed households were just 18% of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68% today.

One important step is for Black Americans to stop being “useful tools” for the leftist, hate-America agenda. Many Black problems are exacerbated by guilt-ridden white people.

[Cordel One]

At this point, you and everyone else have been educated about the numerous reasons why the phrase "all lives matter" is bullshit, at least stop pretending that there isn't reactionary intent behind it.

I believe that all races should be treated equally and that we need a colorblind society. Liberals will call this idea racist which is more Orwellian nonsense. Imagine, being against racism makes me racist. This would be comical if people weren't losing their jobs over this. How about, 'all lives matter including black lives (ALMIBL).'

We don't live ikn a colorblind society, and ALM completely misses the point of BLM. Of course all lies matter, but only some of them are being disproportionately treated like they don't.

Would you try to redirect half the firefighters to your own house if your neighbor's house was the one burning down? All houses matter, after all.

[Galloism]

I believe that all races should be treated equally and that we need a colorblind society. Liberals will call this idea racist which is more Orwellian nonsense. Imagine, being against racism makes me racist. This would be comical if people weren't losing their jobs over this. How about, 'all lives matter including black lives (ALMIBL).'

We don't live ikn a colorblind society, and ALM completely misses the point of BLM. Of course all lies matter, but only some of them are being disproportionately treated like they don't.

Would you try to redirect half the firefighters to your own house if your neighbor's house was the one burning down? All houses matter, after all.

I’ll point out that something on the order of 99% of all police killings are of men. Which house is the one burning again?

[Kowani]

There actually is racism within the police force, but disregarding that, black people and BLM supporters have actually been attempting to curb gang violence etc in our communities.
Part of the reason black kids are growing up in single parent homes is the fathers keep getting shot or imprisoned for crimes white people get slaps on the wrist for or for crimes they didn’t even commit. Black on black crime is about the same rate as white on white crime and the thing is, black on black crime makes more sense, because black people are more likely to be poor, as statistically, we’re more likely to be paid less than white people for the same job and same work. Poor people are more likely to turn to crime and more likely to be involved in violent crime. A lot of it is things like robbery, because when you do have money for food you’re more likely to try and rob and kill someone who does.

You have a decent point, but explain why single parent families are much more common now than before LBJ's Great Society program made people depend on welfare instead of fathers. Also, do you think blacks in 2020 are discriminated against more vs. in 1940?

The Welfare State's Legacy

https://www.creators.com/read/walter-wi ... tes-legacy

Walter Williams: Blacks of yesteryear and today

https://triblive.com/opinion/walter-wil ... and-today/

The out-of-wedlock birth rate among Blacks in 1940 was about 11%; today, it is 75%. Black female-headed households were just 18% of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68% today.

One important step is for Black Americans to stop being “useful tools” for the leftist, hate-America agenda. Many Black problems are exacerbated by guilt-ridden white people.

yeah see there was this whole policy called the War on Drugs which disproportionately affected black people
small thing, maybe you've heard of it
and then after that things like redlining and hiring discrimination made it impossible for black people to build generational wealth
oh and then we can add in deindustrialization and the 2008 financial crash which also disproportionately affected black people
this is not hard

[Cordel One]

We don't live ikn a colorblind society, and ALM completely misses the point of BLM. Of course all lies matter, but only some of them are being disproportionately treated like they don't.

Would you try to redirect half the firefighters to your own house if your neighbor's house was the one burning down? All houses matter, after all.

I’ll point out that something on the order of 99% of all police killings are of men. Which house is the one burning again?

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

[Vassenor]

We don't live ikn a colorblind society, and ALM completely misses the point of BLM. Of course all lies matter, but only some of them are being disproportionately treated like they don't.

Would you try to redirect half the firefighters to your own house if your neighbor's house was the one burning down? All houses matter, after all.

I’ll point out that something on the order of 99% of all police killings are of men. Which house is the one burning again?

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make other than crowbar in yet another BUT THE MEN THO into this debate.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Have people agreed on anything?

[Galloism]

I’ll point out that something on the order of 99% of all police killings are of men. Which house is the one burning again?

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

[Freiheit Reich]

I’ll point out that something on the order of 99% of all police killings are of men. Which house is the one burning again?

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

[Galloism]

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

Discrimination based on immutable characteristics is not ok.

[Insaanistan]

I think at this point we need to conclude that it is necessary for black majority cities to have more autonomy. We can’t actually figure out what they really want which is precisely evidence that they are a free people who need self-rule and can not be ruled by a bureaucracy. Free people are what democracy really needs and only free people can sustain a democracy. Both African Americans and many rural whites are free people and let’s allow them to continue to be free.

Are European laws really appropriate for Africans? Maybe the answer is actually “false”. Given that West Europeans are more domesticated than all peoples other than Ashkenazi Jews and Northeast Asians applying criminal code fit for West Europeans to Africans can indeed be unusually harsh. Maybe laws such as those that criminalize battery that does not cause death or permanent injury should indeed be repealed in these areas and they should decide for themselves whether they want policing of any kind and if so who get to be the police and how policing is done.

WHAT
THE
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[Insaanistan]

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

Everyone POC’s houses, with black people having the biggest one and the Native American one burning the longest.

[Saint Yosx]

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

So you are excusing racisms and discrimination? That is so untrue. If I put a black child and a white child in a room, they will treat each other the same, because we are not born with hate we are taught to hate. Even if we did not grow up in a racist home per say, spreading lies like "Stereotyping is good sometimes for survival" is teaching hate.

[Vassenor]

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

Everyone POC’s houses, with black people having the biggest one and the Native American one burning the longest.

But that makes it not about oppressing men specifically so it can't be right.

[Galloism]

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

Everyone POC’s houses, with black people having the biggest one and the Native American one burning the longest.

That doesn't really fit the data.

[Atheris]

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

This is what we call "fucked up".

[Saint Yosx]

Most people consider men more dangerous than women regardless of race and statistics show this is a valid fear just as it is normal to be more afraid of a tiger than a fox if walking in the wild. Young people ages 20-39 are also more dangerous than people over 70 regardless of race. Statistics will also support this fear as valid. Sometimes we stereotype with a good reason because this helps protect us.

This is what we call "fucked up".

Exactly, man I'm getting goosebumps from this... and that's what caused world war II...

[Salus Maior]

This is what we call "fucked up".

Exactly, man I'm getting goosebumps from this... and that's what caused world war II...

That was actually Germany invading Poland.

[Cordel One]

Racists generally consider black men to be scarier than black women.

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

The houses of minorities, primarily. Besides, it's not like women have it easy.

[Galloism]

This is true. But they also seem to consider American Indian men, Asian men, Hispanic men, white men, and every other group of men scarier than black women, American Indian women, Asian women, white women, or any other group of women.

In fact, there is not a single classification of women who gets killed as much as any single classification of men (with Asian men getting killed the least among men, but still more than any race of women).

So which house is on fire again?

The houses of minorities, primarily. Besides, it's not like women have it easy.

When it comes to being killed by police, it's the houses of minorities, and not the houses with men in them, even though men are something on the order of 25 to 30 times more likely to be killed by police than women (for comparison, black vs white is about 4 times).

I didn't say women have it easy or hard. I asked who's houses are on fire. If you're going to use the "house on fire" reasoning to ignore other people's problems, then I have the strongest claim to "house on fire" of almost anyone. Seriously.

Look at this graph:



For something more colorful:



(EDIT: Here's the study - https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793 )

Now, who's house is really on fire when it comes to discriminatory levels of killing? Black people, or men?

Black men of course get the brunt of it, and I think we should all acknowledge that, but if we're going by "who's house is on fire" as to what's important and who we can ignore, gender is significantly more impactful than race - in extreme fashion.

[Cordel One]

The houses of minorities, primarily. Besides, it's not like women have it easy.

When it comes to being killed by police, it's the houses of minorities, and not the houses with men in them, even though men are something on the order of 25 to 30 times more likely to be killed by police than women (for comparison, black vs white is about 4 times).

I didn't say women have it easy or hard. I asked who's houses are on fire. If you're going to use the "house on fire" reasoning to ignore other people's problems, then I have the strongest claim to "house on fire" of almost anyone. Seriously.

Look at this graph:



Now, who's house is really on fire when it comes to discriminatory levels of killing? Black people, or men?

Black men of course get the brunt of it, and I think we should all acknowledge that, but if we're going by "who's house is on fire" as to what's important and who we can ignore, gender is significantly more impactful than race - in extreme fashion.

For this specific type of fire? Black men, epecially. In this case it is worse for men than women.

[Galloism]

For this specific type of fire? Black men, epecially. In this case it is worse for men than women.

So, to go back to the usage of "house on fire" to disparage and diminish other groups problems or involvement in police brutality.

Everyone should ignore black lives matter and embrace men's lives matter. I should ignore this because this is not the house that's on fire. Or at least, it's a minor kitchen fire while the other cause is a raging inferno.

Is that what we're supposed to do? Because if we're not concerned except for the house that's on fire, this is clearly the one that's on fire in the most extreme and demonstrable fashion.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

For this specific type of fire? Black men, epecially. In this case it is worse for men than women.

So, to go back to the usage of "house on fire" to disparage and diminish other groups problems or involvement in police brutality.

Everyone should ignore black lives matter and embrace men's lives matter. I should ignore this because this is not the house that's on fire. Or at least, it's a minor kitchen fire while the other cause is a raging inferno.

Is that what we're supposed to do? Because if we're not concerned except for the house that's on fire, this is clearly the one that's on fire in the most extreme and demonstrable fashion.

I always did find it interesting how police brutality is looked through the lens of race based identity politics rather than gender

[Saint Yosx]

So, to go back to the usage of "house on fire" to disparage and diminish other groups problems or involvement in police brutality.

Everyone should ignore black lives matter and embrace men's lives matter. I should ignore this because this is not the house that's on fire. Or at least, it's a minor kitchen fire while the other cause is a raging inferno.

Is that what we're supposed to do? Because if we're not concerned except for the house that's on fire, this is clearly the one that's on fire in the most extreme and demonstrable fashion.

I always did find it interesting how police brutality is looked through the lens of race based identity politics rather than gender

Never thought of it like that...

[Cordel One]

For this specific type of fire? Black men, epecially. In this case it is worse for men than women.

So, to go back to the usage of "house on fire" to disparage and diminish other groups problems or involvement in police brutality.

Everyone should ignore black lives matter and embrace men's lives matter. I should ignore this because this is not the house that's on fire. Or at least, it's a minor kitchen fire while the other cause is a raging inferno.

Is that what we're supposed to do? Because if we're not concerned except for the house that's on fire, this is clearly the one that's on fire in the most extreme and demonstrable fashion.

Disproportionate brutality against men should be stopped, but this doesn't mean BLM should be abandoned. Look at your own graph, black men have to worry about it more than double white men.

Anyways, it's true that men are the subject of some biases that need to end, along with the idea of "alpha males".