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Postby Disgraces » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:15 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Adamede wrote:No, it’s predates the US itself because in the English language it refers to a specific group of people/nation and has for centuries, and as such isn’t changing anytime soon.

You’re free to call us whatever you u want in Spanish, and you’re also free to call yourselves whatever you want, but the name in English isn’t going to change, especially not to one of the dumbass alternatives that I keep on seeing.

Yup

Liberals want to cry foul play about how calling Americans American is somehow racist or exclusionary but I honestly agree that we should just keep it for the sake of our culture

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pm

Disgraces wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:Yup

Liberals want to cry foul play about how calling Americans American is somehow racist or exclusionary but I honestly agree that we should just keep it for the sake of our culture

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I haven't seen a conservative whining about the use of the word 'American'

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:21 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Adamede wrote:No, it’s predates the US itself because in the English language it refers to a specific group of people/nation and has for centuries, and as such isn’t changing anytime soon.

You’re free to call us whatever you u want in Spanish, and you’re also free to call yourselves whatever you want, but the name in English isn’t going to change, especially not to one of the dumbass alternatives that I keep on seeing.

Yup

Liberals want to cry foul play about how calling Americans American is somehow racist or exclusionary but I honestly agree that we should just keep it for the sake of our culture

Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:21 pm

Disgraces wrote:It "predates the US itself" because it literally doesn't have another denonym.


Alright, I still don't see why Americans can't identify themselves as Americans, and why that has to be a problem for Argentinians, Brazilians, and so forth.
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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:Yup

Liberals want to cry foul play about how calling Americans American is somehow racist or exclusionary but I honestly agree that we should just keep it for the sake of our culture

Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~

No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:24 pm

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Glorious Hong Kong wrote:I would strongly prefer if that didn't happen, but if the American people decide to abolish the United States and live in 50+ countries, that's their prerogative. The huge flipside is that China and Russia would quickly fill the void. I prefer to see a strong, stable, and prosperous America that can stare down its enemies.


The nation is RADICALLY split politically, we are already living in two nations per se.

No actually, the US population generally has the same culture and goals.

The problem though is that one side, The Republican Party (Or the American Fascist Party if you prefer) leadership, has duped ~1/2 the country into believing that anything that helps them is actually harmful and anti-American.

Like farmers who rail against welfare but happily cash in their monthly subsidy checks, or people who think taxing the 1% would raise costs for the average person, etc...
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:24 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~

No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

So you think Trump's a liberal?
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Postby Disgraces » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:25 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~

No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

I prefer to call it reason.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:25 pm

New haven america wrote:Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~


That's been the case well before Trump.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:26 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Disgraces wrote:It "predates the US itself" because it literally doesn't have another denonym.


Alright, I still don't see why Americans can't identify themselves as Americans, and why that has to be a problem for Argentinians, Brazilians, and so forth.

It seems like a non-issue that only busybodies really complain about honestly.
Really I think the reason the Founding Fathers went with 'America' was either because they thought that we were destined to take over the hemisphere, or perhaps they arrogantly thought that the other natives would never throw off their colonizers.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:27 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:Ah yes, liberal as a buzzword for anything you don't like or disagree with.

And here I thought kicking Trump out would be enough to end the use, but cest la vie~

No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

I complain about liberals too but this sounds like the kind of thing someone who's never actually met a liberal would say.

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:28 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

So you think Trump's a liberal?

Trump has been saving American culture. But yes, sort of - he's not extreme enough. The Republican party is too moderate for my liking.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:28 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:So you think Trump's a liberal?

Trump has been saving American culture. But yes, sort of - he's not extreme enough. The Republican party is too moderate for my liking.

What parts of American culture?
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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:No, liberal as a valid qualifier for people who want to destroy our culture and traditions for not apparent reason

I complain about liberals too but this sounds like the kind of thing someone who's never actually met a liberal would say.

I read the news. I'm entitled to an informed opinion.

Case in point: any news article about Berkeley.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:29 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:So you think Trump's a liberal?

Trump has been saving American culture. But yes, sort of - he's not extreme enough. The Republican party is too moderate for my liking.

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Lol okay boyo.

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:Trump has been saving American culture. But yes, sort of - he's not extreme enough. The Republican party is too moderate for my liking.

What parts of American culture?

The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:30 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I complain about liberals too but this sounds like the kind of thing someone who's never actually met a liberal would say.

I read the news. I'm entitled to an informed opinion.

Case in point: any news article about Berkeley.

Fox News isn't news.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:30 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I complain about liberals too but this sounds like the kind of thing someone who's never actually met a liberal would say.

I read the news. I'm entitled to an informed opinion.

Case in point: any news article about Berkeley.

Entitled to? Surely.
In possession of? Doubt.

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:I read the news. I'm entitled to an informed opinion.

Case in point: any news article about Berkeley.

Fox News isn't news.

Not fox news

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:31 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:What parts of American culture?

The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

Ah so an extremely narrow view of American history that ignores about %95 of it, that makes sense.

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

Ah so an extremely narrow view of American history that ignores about %95 of it, that makes sense.

Where is the 95% of American history that supposedly is not Christian, not Protestant, and primarily speaks a language other than English?

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Postby Disgraces » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:32 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:What parts of American culture?

The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

Are you a klansman by any chance?
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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:32 pm

Disgraces wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

Are you a klansman by any chance?

no, I'm not racist

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:32 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:What parts of American culture?

The part where America is supposed to be a 1. Christian country with a 2. Protestant work ethic 3. that is proud to speak English.

1. Nope, US is secular, it never adopted a state religion.
2. Yes, Donald Trump, the billionaire whose family started out as German immigrants running brothels and is a trust fund baby truly is the spitting image of the Protestant work ethic.
3. America has no official language. Again, it never adopted a state language.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:33 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
New haven america wrote:What parts of American culture?

The part where America is supposed to be a Christian country with a Protestant work ethic that is proud to speak English.

Supposed to be? According to what lmfao
Don't you think if that was the case the founders would've made those things, y'know, the law lmao
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