Should the United States Federal government be dissolved?

[Torisakia]

Is it really exaggerating if all the issues I've stated are actually occurring?

Yes.

Can't have anyone talk bad about the "best country in the world", I assume.

[Atheris]

Yes.

Can't have anyone talk bad about the "best country in the world", I assume.

No.

[Torisakia]

Can't have anyone talk bad about the "best country in the world", I assume.

No.

It's easy to be oblivious to reality when you're drowning in patriotism. But I need to remember that this is the internet and god forbid someone have a different opinion.

[Atheris]

No.

It's easy to be oblivious to reality when you're drowning in patriotism. But I need to remember that this is the internet and god forbid someone have a different opinion.

Can't win, don't try.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

He hates the entire US according to his sig, so he'll be the type to exaggerate our wrongs.

Is it really exaggerating if all the issues I've stated are actually occurring?

Are you one of those people that looks at the definition of "genocide" under international law while ignoring literally all case law in order to claim that something constitutes genocide?

[Torisakia]

Is it really exaggerating if all the issues I've stated are actually occurring?

Are you one of those people that looks at the definition of "genocide" under international law while ignoring literally all case law in order to claim that something constitutes genocide?

I'll admit that there may not be a coordinated effort, but we're slowly approaching that territory I'm afraid.

[No State Here]

I would have said yes five months ago, but no, the government is needed for some very basic things like defense and security. Taxation can fuck right off, though

[Fluffy Panda]

I disagree with the idea of equating the dissolation of the government of the US to the destruction of the US.

If anything, removal of the government would make the US significantly more powerful, or it could really destroy the US, depending on the Legislative power and how it functions.

Countries get stronger relative to others, if they make relatively more correct actions than others. What is correct action and what is incorrect action cannot be decided by government members. It can (and already did) be decided by the laws of physics. So, actions that goes against the laws of physics (for example if you pass a law that recognise "Earth is flat" you won't advance much) will weaken the country elative to others, if there are no other country who takes a lot more stupid steps than those.

So, we gotta take relatively more correct steps than others, to advance faster than others. That's the impotant thing, being relatively more correct in front of the laws of physics. We don't have to be %100 correct or rational (that's impossible anyway).

The problem with governments is that, no government will acknowledge thei wrong doings since it will strenghten the opposition. I can give dozens of examples from current, or previous governments, where they go through with the wrong doings for the sake of political agenda.

What was our main target again? "being relatively more correct in front of laws of physics". Do you see government serves that purpose? Like, really? That dude was stretching his finger over the "red button", and korean dude was also bragging about ho big his red button was on his table. Earth was that close to face nuclear genocide of human race. So, what would we need to reach that "being relatively more correct" target?

No government.
Scientific parliament with no political party or group. Just independent scientists, who has to prove their thesis with math and physics for them to be a Law. Then parliament could appoint service members to certain temporary missions for few months. There wouldn't be irrational decision, there wouldn't be corruption in large scales. US, or other scientfic non-governmental democracies, would advance forward like never before.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I would have said yes five months ago, but no, the government is needed for some very basic things like defense and security. Taxation can fuck right off, though

...Please explain how the state is supposed to provide defense and security without taxation to fund it.

[Atheris]

I would have said yes five months ago, but no, the government is needed for some very basic things like defense and security. Taxation can fuck right off, though

As in, "I have legitimate grievances" or "I call taxes theft"? Genuine question.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I would have said yes five months ago, but no, the government is needed for some very basic things like defense and security. Taxation can fuck right off, though

As in, "I have legitimate grievances" or "I call taxes theft"? Genuine question.

It's never legitimate grievances, because there are none. It's nothing but "feh, I dun wanna pay no gawd damn taxes"

[Atheris]

As in, "I have legitimate grievances" or "I call taxes theft"? Genuine question.

It's never legitimate grievances, because there are none. It's nothing but "feh, I dun wanna pay no gawd damn taxes"

Ah, so the latter.

Now, is it "I don't understand how taxes work so I call them theft," "NOTHING HAS INTRINSIC VALUE SO TAXATION HAS NO MEANING," or "My money, my rules"?

[The Two Jerseys]

Are you one of those people that looks at the definition of "genocide" under international law while ignoring literally all case law in order to claim that something constitutes genocide?

I'll admit that there may not be a coordinated effort, but we're slowly approaching that territory I'm afraid.

Yes, the police should have successfully wiped out the black population by the time the Sun swallows up the Earth...

[Der Befreier]

Not totally dissolved, just heavily reformed and revised. Heavily.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I'll admit that there may not be a coordinated effort, but we're slowly approaching that territory I'm afraid.

Yes, the police should have successfully wiped out the black population by the time the Sun swallows up the Earth...

The black population is increasing. Truly we're subjecting them to genocide.

[The Two Jerseys]

Yes, the police should have successfully wiped out the black population by the time the Sun swallows up the Earth...

The black population is increasing. Truly we're subjecting them to genocide.

Hitler would be in awe of our genocidal efficiency.

[Atheris]

Yes, the police should have successfully wiped out the black population by the time the Sun swallows up the Earth...

The black population is increasing. Truly we're subjecting them to genocide.

Literally worse than Pol Pot.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

Yes, the police should have successfully wiped out the black population by the time the Sun swallows up the Earth...

The black population is increasing. Truly we're subjecting them to genocide.

This doesn't mean it isn't genocide per se but makes it highly improbable. Especially in light of the possible extent of the US's reach in this context (see eg, ICTY's Brđanin (IT-99-36) Trial Judgement), the claim of a genocide going on is clearly absurd though.

[Der Befreier]

The black population is increasing. Truly we're subjecting them to genocide.

Hitler would be in awe of our genocidal efficiency.

Less than a thousand African Americans dead within the last four years as far as police shootings. As far as “natural death” goes, African Americans are right on par with the everyone else in the US. I’m a leftist myself but let’s not go overboard here. Less than a thousand over four years doesn’t even compare to literal millions in less than a decade by genocide.

[Atheris]

Hitler would be in awe of our genocidal efficiency.

Less than a thousand African Americans dead within the last four years as far as police shootings. As far as “natural death” goes, African Americans are right on par with the everyone else in the US. I’m a leftist myself but let’s not go overboard here. Less than a thousand over four years doesn’t even compare to literal millions in less than a decade by genocide.

For reference to genocide:

Pol Pot killed or exiled 100% of all Cambodian Viets.

One. Hundred. Percent.

[Der Befreier]

Less than a thousand African Americans dead within the last four years as far as police shootings. As far as “natural death” goes, African Americans are right on par with the everyone else in the US. I’m a leftist myself but let’s not go overboard here. Less than a thousand over four years doesn’t even compare to literal millions in less than a decade by genocide.

For reference to genocide:

Pol Pot killed or exiled 100% of all Cambodian Viets.

One. Hundred. Percent.

Tragic. It and the Holocaust were both humanitarian travesties. While what’s going on in the US needs to be remedied ASAP it irks me with all these Holocaust and other genocide comparisons.

[Torisakia]

For reference to genocide:

Pol Pot killed or exiled 100% of all Cambodian Viets.

One. Hundred. Percent.

Tragic. It and the Holocaust were both humanitarian travesties. While what’s going on in the US needs to be remedied ASAP it irks me with all these Holocaust and other genocide comparisons.

It's liable to reach higher levels if we don't do something about it soon. Maybe not Holocaust levels, but significant nonetheless.

[Der Befreier]

Tragic. It and the Holocaust were both humanitarian travesties. While what’s going on in the US needs to be remedied ASAP it irks me with all these Holocaust and other genocide comparisons.

It's liable to reach higher levels if we don't do something about it soon. Maybe not Holocaust levels, but significant nonetheless.

As I said, it needs to be remedied ASAP.

[Ethel mermania]

Founding Fathers: "We'll call our country 'the United States of India'."

East India Company: "Oi! You wot? Fite me, m8!"

Honestly, America is the best possible name for the Union for a lot of reasons.

Britain 2.0

[Torisakia]

It's liable to reach higher levels if we don't do something about it soon. Maybe not Holocaust levels, but significant nonetheless.

As I said, it needs to be remedied ASAP.

That's honestly wishful thinking. This will continue to be an issue for decades to come.