The American Empire

[Carrelie]

Btw the Middle East is boring, East Asia rulezz

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting.

Ahem. Bhutan, Japan, Nepal, India, etc.
Are you trying to imply that the cultures of these nations are the same?

[United Chinese Communes]

don't know if this is relevant but isn't this whole site literally based on a story where the United States basically dominated the world markets?

Yes, indeed it is. The threat posed by America has been widely recognised for some time, primarily by non-Americans for some reason.

I hate to interrupt this conversation, but here already exists a thread to discuss Chinese actions. Several, in fact. The purpose of this thread, as outlined in the OP, is to discuss the actions of America.

It is yet another Sinostatist thread so we have to call a spade spade.

I have no idea what 'sinostatism' is, and it sounds like something you've made up.

[Federal Asia]

Btw the Middle East is boring, East Asia rulezz

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting.

Only if you find tribalism, underdevelopment, ethnic strife and religious moonbattery "interesting"

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting.

Ahem. Bhutan, Japan, Nepal, India, etc.
Are you trying to imply that the cultures of these nations are the same?

When exactly is South Asia a part of East Asia?! The Indosphere is of course a very interesting place.

[Federal Asia]

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting even though it does often lack tech progress.

I don’t see how you can actually consider MENA a boring place when lots of interesting events have happened there. Have you even tried Turkish, Iranian or Arab food?

Well I'm of MENA descent myself

[Carrelie]

Ahem. Bhutan, Japan, Nepal, India, etc.
Are you trying to imply that the cultures of these nations are the same?

When exactly is South Asia a part of East Asia?!

East Asia is a vague concept. I'll drop the India part if it's necessary.
No, you cannot convince me that Bhutan and Nepal are not in East Asia.

[Atheris]

Ahem. Bhutan, Japan, Nepal, India, etc.
Are you trying to imply that the cultures of these nations are the same?

When exactly is South Asia a part of East Asia?!

South Asia is Indochina, Burma (Myanmar), Thailand, Malaysia/Singapore, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Papua New Guinea, or at least from my old geography textbooks.

Also, Japan is nowhere close to South Asia.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting.

Only if you find tribalism, underdevelopment, ethnic strife and religious moonbattery "interesting"

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

When exactly is South Asia a part of East Asia?!

East Asia is a vague concept. I'll drop the India part if it's necessary.
No, you cannot convince me that Bhutan and Nepal are not in East Asia.

What? Your definition is very weird. If you add Nepal then yes it becomes more interesting.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

:rofl:
Did the OP seriously just try to claim that the world would be better if China was the top superpower? Excuse me while I laugh some more
In all seriousness, heck no it would not be. The only thing the CCP is good for is censorship and fake elections, for the love of all that is good. Just because a system sometimes allows for bad things to happen within it does NOT mean the system itself is bad. The American system can be very good, and has been. A very large percentage of our modern conveniences come from the USA in some way and has done considerable good. I'm not saying the resources of the USA haven't been used for bad things, they most certainly have times. But does that really justify considering China a better superpower? God forbid. I'll be damned the day China surpasses the USA in economic and military power, that will be one of the worst days in the history of the world, what's sure to follow will end the lives of millions.

Firstly, that was not my argument. I am putting China and the US on the same level, pointing out they are in fact both completely terrible. The American Empire and its system of world domination are objectively bad things for the majority of people around the world. It is supremely destructive and exploitative on a global scale, while at least for now China is largely confined to its borders. Would China establish a similar system if it rose to the status of global superpower? Quite probably. But as of this moment, that system serves America. It is the presently existing threat.

It is not true that China is confined to its borders. It constantly harasses its neighbors in the South China Sea, is building bases there, sends ships and planes to the Japanese Senkaku Islands, and is currently building bases worldwide. They have forces stationed in Africa, plan to build up a port in Iran, are working on a base in Cambodia. Just look at its One Belt, One Road project.

[Federal Asia]

Only if you find tribalism, underdevelopment, ethnic strife and religious moonbattery "interesting"

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

I'm myself of MENA descent actually, that's why I've come to hate that region

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting even though it does often lack tech progress.

I don’t see how you can actually consider MENA a boring place when lots of interesting events have happened there. Have you even tried Turkish, Iranian or Arab food?

Well I'm of MENA descent myself

I very strongly doubt that.

[United Chinese Communes]

When exactly is South Asia a part of East Asia?!

South Asia is Indochina, Burma (Myanmar), Thailand, Malaysia/Singapore, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Papua New Guinea, or at least from my old geography textbooks.

Also, Japan is nowhere close to South Asia.

That's more Southeast Asia. South Asia is India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

I'm myself of MENA descent actually, that's why I've come to hate that region

Which ethnic group are you from?

[Rusozak]

Only if you find tribalism, underdevelopment, ethnic strife and religious moonbattery "interesting"

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

I mean, the Nazis had a lot of slavic allies despite the long term plans they had for the slavs. You would be surprised how many outsiders a genocidal ethno-state can dupe into supporting them until it's their turn to enter the gas chambers.

[Federal Asia]

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

I mean, the Nazis had a lot of slavic allies despite the long term plans they had for the slavs. You would be surprised how many outsiders a genocidal ethno-state can dupe into supporting them until it's their turn to enter the gas chambers.

Are you comparing the Chinese to the Nazis?

[Rusozak]

I mean, the Nazis had a lot of slavic allies despite the long term plans they had for the slavs. You would be surprised how many outsiders a genocidal ethno-state can dupe into supporting them until it's their turn to enter the gas chambers.

Are you comparing the Chinese to the Nazis?

The PRC as a state, not all Chinese.

[Marsane]

Yes. Middle Eastern civilizations are grossly underrated. Japan is the most legitimate country in the world with the best genetic and cultural continuity (e.g. how many Y chromosome haplogroup D people exist in Japan, lots of the oldest companies in the world are in Japan, the imperial family never changed) while China is the worst.

That's a silly argument, there's no way to objectively 'quantify' art and architecture like that.

[Betoni]

Dude, you must be of Chinese origins lol. I definitely don’t expect people from any other ethnic group to have such views. Don’t deny..

I mean, the Nazis had a lot of slavic allies despite the long term plans they had for the slavs. You would be surprised how many outsiders a genocidal ethno-state can dupe into supporting them until it's their turn to enter the gas chambers.

Or how many times the US has installed and backed such governments.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

I mean, the Nazis had a lot of slavic allies despite the long term plans they had for the slavs. You would be surprised how many outsiders a genocidal ethno-state can dupe into supporting them until it's their turn to enter the gas chambers.

Or how many times the US has installed and backed such governments.

The US did not back or install the Nazi government or slavic states during the time period being referenced.

[Federal Asia]

Are you comparing the Chinese to the Nazis?

The PRC as a state, not all Chinese.

This shows how out-of-touch you are from history. The PRC doesn't want to make another Holocaust, it's all your paranoia and it's frankly insulting to the victims of the actual Nazi Holocaust for you to make such a comparison

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The PRC as a state, not all Chinese.

This shows how out-of-touch you are from history. The PRC doesn't want to make another Holocaust, it's all your paranoia and it's frankly insulting to the victims of the actual Nazi Holocaust for you to make such a comparison

China frequently autogenocides in history. The PRC is just the latest version of the same autogenocidal state.

[Federal Asia]

This shows how out-of-touch you are from history. The PRC doesn't want to make another Holocaust, it's all your paranoia and it's frankly insulting to the victims of the actual Nazi Holocaust for you to make such a comparison

China frequently autogenocides in history.

Ya'll have reached Meme Level at this point tbh

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

The PRC as a state, not all Chinese.

This shows how out-of-touch you are from history. The PRC doesn't want to make another Holocaust, it's all your paranoia and it's frankly insulting to the victims of the actual Nazi Holocaust for you to make such a comparison

That's not quite true, look at what they are doing to the Uyghur Muslims.

[Cordel One]

When we're discussing China on the American empire thread and America on the Chinese empire thread