The American Empire

[Carrelie]

If I was forced to choose, I would probably go with the US as the major world power, especially when compared to what's going on in China right now.
Then again, it just feels like I'm stuck choosing the lesser of two evils. Having only one superpower isn't good, no matter which country it is. Like many things, it's good to have balance, and we don't appear to have that right now.

[Marsane]

The Uyghur cultural identity is of course objectively better than the Chinese one. If you check out older Uyghur buildings and Chinese ones you can easily see that the former look Middle Eastern and are objectively more complex and better than the latter.

Are you making the argument that ornamentation 'complexity' is an objective quantifier to determine which architectural style is "better"?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The Uyghur cultural identity is of course objectively better than the Chinese one. If you check out older Uyghur buildings and Chinese ones you can easily see that the former look Middle Eastern and are objectively more complex and better than the latter.

Are you making the argument that ornamentation 'complexity' is an objective quantifier to determine which architectural style is "better"?

Yes. Middle Eastern civilizations are grossly underrated. Japan is the most legitimate country in the world with the best genetic and cultural continuity (e.g. how many Y chromosome haplogroup D people exist in Japan, lots of the oldest companies in the world are in Japan, the imperial family never changed) while China is the worst.

[Federal Asia]

Was there a plan to exterminate Ashkenazis? Yes. Is there a plan to exterminate Uighurs/Tibetans? No

They're literally being put into concentration and arguably extermination (oh, excuse me, 're-education') camps as well as their cultural identity being constantly erased.

What's so bad about de-radicalizing extremist muslims?

[Atheris]

Are you making the argument that ornamentation 'complexity' is an objective quantifier to determine which architectural style is "better"?

Yes. Middle Eastern civilizations are grossly underrated. Japan is the most legitimate country in the world with the best genetic and cultural continuity while China is the worst.

...Who's gonna tell him?

[Federal Asia]

Are you making the argument that ornamentation 'complexity' is an objective quantifier to determine which architectural style is "better"?

Yes. Middle Eastern civilizations are grossly underrated. Japan is the most legitimate country in the world with the best genetic and cultural continuity while China is the worst.

This is plain blatant racism

[Atheris]

They're literally being put into concentration and arguably extermination (oh, excuse me, 're-education') camps as well as their cultural identity being constantly erased.

What's so bad about de-radicalizing extremist muslims?

They aren't doing that. They're literally rounding up entire villages and putting them into concentration camps. This is like talking about the Holocaust and asking "oh what's the issue about de-radicalizing extreme Zionists?"

How disgusting. What a bad take.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

They're literally being put into concentration and arguably extermination (oh, excuse me, 're-education') camps as well as their cultural identity being constantly erased.

What's so bad about de-radicalizing extremist muslims?

We don’t need to de-radicalize any Muslim. Instead we need to de-radicalize Sinostatists. Given that Sinostatists are generally not violent and have serious self-harm tendencies instead of tendencies to murder people the de-radicalization can proceed slowly and casually.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Yes. Middle Eastern civilizations are grossly underrated. Japan is the most legitimate country in the world with the best genetic and cultural continuity while China is the worst.

This is plain blatant racism

It isn’t. China is not a race. The awfulness of China is clearly not racial given that no such issues exist in Japan and nomadic tribes.

[Federal Asia]

What's so bad about de-radicalizing extremist muslims?

They aren't doing that. They're literally rounding up entire villages and putting them into concentration camps. This is like talking about the Holocaust and asking "oh what's the issue about de-radicalizing extreme Zionists?"

How disgusting. What a bad take.

The Holocaust was not directed against Zionists but against Jewish people as a whole. Not only that, but the Nazis even supported Zionism to get rid of the Jews.

Those villages were hosting Al-Qaeda terrorists, that's why they are kept in check

[Federal Asia]

This is plain blatant racism

It isn’t. China is not a race. The awfulness of China is clearly not racial given that no such issues exist in Japan and nomadic tribes.

You literally said that the Middle East and Japan are better than China because they have "better genetics"

If that's not a racist argument I don't know how to call it

[Carrelie]

What's so bad about de-radicalizing extremist muslims?

We don’t need to de-radicalize any Muslim. Instead we need to de-radicalize Sinostatists.

Well... you can't deny there are some Muslims that need de-radicalising. And if we're going to de-radicalise Sinostatists we may as well de-radicalise American nationalists too.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

It isn’t. China is not a race. The awfulness of China is clearly not racial given that no such issues exist in Japan and nomadic tribes.

You literally said that the Middle East and Japan are better than China because they have "better genetics"

If that's not a racist argument I don't know how to call it

Did you even read my argument at all? I said Japan has the best genetic and cultural continuity. That literally means they are good at preventing radical and catastrophic changes, not that they are genetically superior.

[Atheris]

They aren't doing that. They're literally rounding up entire villages and putting them into concentration camps. This is like talking about the Holocaust and asking "oh what's the issue about de-radicalizing extreme Zionists?"

How disgusting. What a bad take.

The Holocaust was not directed against Zionists but against Jewish people as a whole. Not only that, but the Nazis even supported Zionism to get rid of the Jews.

Those villages were hosting Al-Qaeda terrorists, that's why they are kept in check

Uighurs are not Pashtun. Why would they harbor Pashtun nationalists?

Sure, they may be getting help from Al-Qaeda, but a majority of interred Uighurs are likely not militarists nor nationalists. It's ethnic cleansing to a T.

[Federal Asia]

You literally said that the Middle East and Japan are better than China because they have "better genetics"

If that's not a racist argument I don't know how to call it

Did you even read my argument at all? I said Japan has the best genetic and cultural continuity. That literally means they are good at preventing radical and catastrophic changes, not that they are genetically superior.

Still not a reason to support the West over China. Genetics has nothing to do with it

[Federal Asia]

The Holocaust was not directed against Zionists but against Jewish people as a whole. Not only that, but the Nazis even supported Zionism to get rid of the Jews.

Those villages were hosting Al-Qaeda terrorists, that's why they are kept in check

Uighurs are not Pashtun. Why would they harbor Pashtun nationalists?

Sure, they may be getting help from Al-Qaeda, but a majority of interred Uighurs are likely not militarists nor nationalists. It's ethnic cleansing to a T.

Peaceful Uighurs support the CCP

[Atheris]

Uighurs are not Pashtun. Why would they harbor Pashtun nationalists?

Sure, they may be getting help from Al-Qaeda, but a majority of interred Uighurs are likely not militarists nor nationalists. It's ethnic cleansing to a T.

Peaceful Uighurs support the CCP

Peaceful Uighurs are being put in concentration camps.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Did you even read my argument at all? I said Japan has the best genetic and cultural continuity. That literally means they are good at preventing radical and catastrophic changes, not that they are genetically superior.

Still not a reason to support the West over China. Genetics has nothing to do with it

Wut? You never read my arguments, do you?

China is the worst place on this planet and the cause of that is NOT genetic. Otherwise why are Singapore and Taiwan not China?

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

Did the OP seriously just try to claim that the world would be better if China was the top superpower? Excuse me while I laugh some more
In all seriousness, heck no it would not be. The only thing the CCP is good for is censorship and fake elections, for the love of all that is good. Just because a system sometimes allows for bad things to happen within it does NOT mean the system itself is bad. The American system can be very good, and has been. A very large percentage of our modern conveniences come from the USA in some way and has done considerable good. I'm not saying the resources of the USA haven't been used for bad things, they most certainly have at times. But does that really justify considering China a better superpower? God forbid. I'll be damned the day China surpasses the USA in economic and military power, that will be one of the worst days in the history of the world, what's sure to follow will end the lives of millions.

[United Chinese Communes]

I hate to interrupt this conversation, but here already exists a thread to discuss Chinese actions. Several, in fact. The purpose of this thread, as outlined in the OP, is to discuss the actions of America.

[The Oriental Regional Government]

don't know if this is relevant but isn't this whole site literally based on a story where the United States basically dominated the world markets?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I hate to interrupt this conversation, but here already exists a thread to discuss Chinese actions. Several, in fact. The purpose of this thread, as outlined in the OP, is to discuss the actions of America.

It is yet another Sinostatist thread so we have to call a spade spade.

[Federal Asia]

I hate to interrupt this conversation, but here already exists a thread to discuss Chinese actions. Several, in fact. The purpose of this thread, as outlined in the OP, is to discuss the actions of America.

It is yet another Sinostatist thread so we have to call a spade spade.

Btw the Middle East is boring, East Asia rulezz

[United Chinese Communes]

:rofl:
Did the OP seriously just try to claim that the world would be better if China was the top superpower? Excuse me while I laugh some more
In all seriousness, heck no it would not be. The only thing the CCP is good for is censorship and fake elections, for the love of all that is good. Just because a system sometimes allows for bad things to happen within it does NOT mean the system itself is bad. The American system can be very good, and has been. A very large percentage of our modern conveniences come from the USA in some way and has done considerable good. I'm not saying the resources of the USA haven't been used for bad things, they most certainly have times. But does that really justify considering China a better superpower? God forbid. I'll be damned the day China surpasses the USA in economic and military power, that will be one of the worst days in the history of the world, what's sure to follow will end the lives of millions.

Firstly, that was not my argument. I am putting China and the US on the same level, pointing out they are in fact both completely terrible. The American Empire and its system of world domination are objectively bad things for the majority of people around the world. It is supremely destructive and exploitative on a global scale, while at least for now China is largely confined to its borders. Would China establish a similar system if it rose to the status of global superpower? Quite probably. But as of this moment, that system serves America. It is the presently existing threat.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

It is yet another Sinostatist thread so we have to call a spade spade.

Btw the Middle East is boring, East Asia rulezz

In what sense? What’s really funny is that contemporary East Asia (minus China and North Korea) is both rich and boring (lacks cultural and thought diversity) while the Middle East is interesting even though it does often lack tech progress.

I don’t see how you can actually consider MENA a boring place when lots of interesting events have happened there. Have you even tried Turkish, Iranian or Arab food?