American Politics I: It's All Applesauce

[Ranoria]

unfortunately, yes


well, some "verifieds" (parler version of blue checkmarks) are calling for the outright destruction of the GOP, lots of hot air for civil war, the entire SCOTUS is a deep state plant, some people claiming that the entire texas lawsuit was a distraction, and Qanon is back in full force

I hope they do destroy the party as they say and launch a primary challenge of every incumbent.

We do have a lot of incumbents who need to go. Establishing primaries as a legitimate threat to swamp monsters would be a nice change of pace.

As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.


If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.

You represent such a small percentage of the GOP that your opinions don't matter that much here.

The hell does that even mean?

[San Lumen]

I hope they do destroy the party as they say and launch a primary challenge of every incumbent.

We do have a lot of incumbents who need to go. Establishing primaries as a legitimate threat to swamp monsters would be a nice change of pace.

You represent such a small percentage of the GOP that your opinions don't matter that much here.

The hell does that even mean?

Go ahead primary them.

[Kowani]

Trump is now attacking the Supreme Court

So, you’re the President of the United States, and you just went through an election where you got more votes than any sitting President in history, by far - and purportedly lost. You can’t get “standing” before the Supreme Court, so you “intervene” with wonderful states that, after careful study and consideration, think you got “screwed”, something which will hurt them also. Many others likewise join the suit but, within a flash, it is thrown out and gone, without even looking at the many reasons it was brought. A Rigged Election, fight on!

[Nakena]

How surprising. He installed Federal Society members into SCOTUS not random Yes-man.

Who would have thought?

[Shazbotdom]

Trump is now attacking the Supreme Court

So, you’re the President of the United States, and you just went through an election where you got more votes than any sitting President in history, by far - and purportedly lost. You can’t get “standing” before the Supreme Court, so you “intervene” with wonderful states that, after careful study and consideration, think you got “screwed”, something which will hurt them also. Many others likewise join the suit but, within a flash, it is thrown out and gone, without even looking at the many reasons it was brought. A Rigged Election, fight on!

It was only a matter of time.

[Kowani]

How surprising. He installed Federal Society members into SCOTUS not random Yes-man.

Who would have thought?

insufficient devotion to Dear Leader is now a cardinal sin
oops

[The South Kuomintang]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

[Cannot think of a name]

Rick Perry did in 2009. For giggles I looked it up and Texas threatening to succeed is so fucking common that it has it's own Wiki page.

Threatening to succeed is Texas' "I don't need you mom and dad, Imma drop out of school and tour with my band."

Don't want to be the Grammar Nazi, but the word you are looking for is "secede".

Tf is "Threatening to succeed"?

laziness+autocorrect+bad spelling in general=me accidentally throwing unintended shade on Texas.

[Parxland]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

[Cannot think of a name]

Trump is now attacking the Supreme Court

So, you’re the President of the United States, and you just went through an election where you got more votes than any sitting President in history, by far - and purportedly lost. You can’t get “standing” before the Supreme Court, so you “intervene” with wonderful states that, after careful study and consideration, think you got “screwed”, something which will hurt them also. Many others likewise join the suit but, within a flash, it is thrown out and gone, without even looking at the many reasons it was brought. A Rigged Election, fight on!

Okay, but, like...the other guy got more. It's like he thinks he was running against other sitting presidents and Biden was just there like a bracket racer.

[Ranoria]

The Cato Institute's Ilya Shapiro, meanwhile, noted that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is bringing the suit without the support of his own solicitor general, Kyle Hawkins, who would normally lead litigation on behalf of the state.

"There's a reason why the Texas solicitor general's name isn't on the case," Shapiro said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus ... ction-suit

Fox, actually. Just an interesting tidbit. They pointed out a couple other issues with the lawsuit including but not limited to hypocrisy on Texas's end.

[The Alma Mater]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work.

And do you have any evidence whatsoever of that or is it just yet another baseless "kraken" ?

[Shazbotdom]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

There is actually no real evidence of widespread voter fraud, no matter how much Trump tries to push that bullshit QAnon Theory. So, sorry, but it is over.

If you go by what SCOTUS said in their brief, only two diverted from the other members which would mean that Trump appointees sided with those who said the case had no merits.

[Cannot think of a name]

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work.

And do you have any evidence whatsoever of that or is it just yet another baseless "kraken" ?

I mean, even the dissenting opinion was all, "We should have humored them, but this wasn't going anywhere."

[Omniabstracta]

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

There is actually no real evidence of widespread voter fraud, no matter how much Trump tries to push that bullshit QAnon Theory. So, sorry, but it is over.

If you go by what SCOTUS said in their brief, only two diverted from the other members which would mean that Trump appointees sided with those who said the case had no merits.

All of the justices took the side that the case had no merits, the two just said they should technically take the case but then rule that it had none anyway.

[The Alma Mater]

And do you have any evidence whatsoever of that or is it just yet another baseless "kraken" ?

I mean, even the dissenting opinion was all, "We should have humored them, but this wasn't going anywhere."

I am honestly starting to wonder if I am insane.

Please confirm: if everytime I use source X it turns out the information is complete and utter bullshit, should I, at some point, say when the samplesize is already well over 50, start considering the possibility that perhaps my source is shit ?

Because it seems that Trump supporters seem to believe it makes the source *better*.

[Shazbotdom]

There is actually no real evidence of widespread voter fraud, no matter how much Trump tries to push that bullshit QAnon Theory. So, sorry, but it is over.

If you go by what SCOTUS said in their brief, only two diverted from the other members which would mean that Trump appointees sided with those who said the case had no merits.

All of the justices took the side that the case had no merits, the two just said they should technically take the case but then rule that it had none anyway.

The funny issue is that it is now well past time for any new lawsuits to be put against the Election results. So, if they tried to put forth a new lawsuit, it should be summarily dismissed.

[The Black Forrest]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

Here be dragons.

The system is not fragile and the fact there were covid deaths falls into the areas of “what if”

Trump is a loser. People have to deal with it.

[Ranoria]

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

Here be dragons.

The system is not fragile and the fact there were covid deaths falls into the areas of “what if”

Trump is a loser. People have to deal with it.

I can say I'm really happy with le Supreme Court. This does at least show that their integrity is intact.

[Cannot think of a name]

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

Here be dragons.

The system is not fragile and the fact there were covid deaths falls into the areas of “what if”

Trump is a loser. People have to deal with it.

Actually what I think we're seeing ultimately is that the system is more robust than we thought.

[The Alma Mater]

Here be dragons.

The system is not fragile and the fact there were covid deaths falls into the areas of “what if”

Trump is a loser. People have to deal with it.

I can say I'm really happy with le Supreme Court. This does at least show that their integrity is intact.

Nah, it shows they consider state rights important. And ofc realise perfectly well that if they allowed this, other states could countersue Republican for active votersupression etc. With considerably more evidence than the trumpists were bringing.

[Cannot think of a name]

I can say I'm really happy with le Supreme Court. This does at least show that their integrity is intact.

Nah, it shows they consider state rights important. And ofc realise perfectly well that if they allowed this, other states could countersue Republican for active votersupression etc. With considerably more evidence than the trumpists were bringing.

It's interesting to think of it as the court saving the republicans from themselves.

[Ranoria]

I can say I'm really happy with le Supreme Court. This does at least show that their integrity is intact.

Nah, it shows they consider state rights important. And ofc realise perfectly well that if they allowed this, other states could countersue Republican for active votersupression etc. With considerably more evidence than the trumpists were bringing.

Like I said...their integrity is intact.

[Senkaku]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

I will say to you what every court in the land has said to Rudy Giuliani, Sydney Powell, and the state of Texas: “post proofs or get out”

[Neutraligon]

the election wasnt rigged

see how easy it is to tell the truth

Unfortunately, the case isn't done yet. QED, people have demonstrated how fragile and vulnerable the voting system is. The trick of using the recently deceased to vote really does work. It's kind of easy actually. With COVID, there's been so many deaths in the swing states that if the case is brought up again to the supreme court, they'll take it. The Texas lawsuit was just too vague and lightweight with it's allegations.

It had nothing to do with being vague and everything to do with Texas having no standing.