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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ranoria wrote:As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.


If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Don’t love a man who has no problem with sacrificing you, your loved ones or your democracy. Don’t love politicians.


It’s fascinating how the sisters comment of him always being a cruel and vindictive man never made the airways.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:47 pm

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Everhall wrote:Can Trump just concede already?


He won’t. It would mean he is a loser, He is. However, he is delusional enough to think he can never lose.


He’s a textbook narcissist and has the coping skills of a child. Wealth and a proclivity for suing his way out of trouble have rendered him psychologically little more than a 70+ year old toddler.
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Postby Ranoria » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:47 pm

Odreria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Don’t love politicians.

Except george galloway

And Vermin Supreme, right?
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:47 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mind you, I’m not saying this to criticize you but this is the result of the GOP letting itself be strangled by a failed businessman and shit reality TV character. They could’ve stopped Trump already. But they don’t have a spine.

As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.

The lengths you're willing to go to to avoid engaging in any wrongthink about your messiah continues to genuinely astonish me. The man is pushing the country to the brink of civil war and you're still ready to blame someone, anyone else. It's Ted Cruz! It's Texas! What is going to be enough to break the spell? Does he actually have to personally spit on you or something?

The Reformed American Republic wrote:They want a dictator not rule of law.

If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.

There's reason to suspect he was going to and was dissuaded, given the disposition of troops around DC early in the summer. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean people don't want it to happen, that he doesn't want it to happen, or that it couldn't happen.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don’t love a man who has no problem with sacrificing you, your loved ones or your democracy. Don’t love politicians.


It’s fascinating how the sisters comment of him always being a cruel and vindictive man never made the airways.


I know, right. And she didn’t mince or embellish it.
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Postby The Giant Space Wyrm » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:48 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Don’t love a man who has no problem with sacrificing you, your loved ones or your democracy. Don’t love politicians.

How can you say that when Vermin Supreme exists? Are you against a free pony for every American!? Do you hate ponies!?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:49 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This time around I’m not so sure you’re going to be correct.

Trump has already stated before that he has no problem with going independent, on top of that a large chunk of his base hates the GOP now, including McConnell, Kav (who they now think is a rapist), and ACB (who they now think is in bed with the Clintons)

Since when does his base hate Kav and ACB? Are the Newsmax/OAN radicalizing news cycles really moving that fast and I'm just behind the times? I can see them not liking McConnell, since no one really LIKES gerontocracy except for the gerontocrats, but I distinctly recall them rallying aggressively to Kav's support and cheering on ACB's nomination and confirmation.

They’ve turned on them ever since they both ruled against the Texas lawsuit.

I don't think he'd have a problem with going independent, but I do think he'll now be reluctant to, because he sees himself as having won control of the GOP and will be loath to lose it (see: how he's behaved about losing the presidency). He'd much rather stay on top of the Republican heap and burn the party down from the inside out.

I doubt that
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:49 pm

The Giant Space Wyrm wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Don’t love a man who has no problem with sacrificing you, your loved ones or your democracy. Don’t love politicians.

How can you say that when Vermin Supreme exists? Are you against a free pony for every American!? Do you hate ponies!?


Years of working with politicos. Use them to achieve things and discard them when they’re not useful, but don’t love politicians. They have no love for you.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Since when does his base hate Kav and ACB? Are the Newsmax/OAN radicalizing news cycles really moving that fast and I'm just behind the times? I can see them not liking McConnell, since no one really LIKES gerontocracy except for the gerontocrats, but I distinctly recall them rallying aggressively to Kav's support and cheering on ACB's nomination and confirmation.

They’ve turned on them ever since they both ruled against the Texas lawsuit.

I will once again cite Vergniaud. This shit is turning into a national psychosis.
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Postby Odreria » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Odreria wrote:Except george galloway

And Vermin Supreme, right?

of course
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Ranoria wrote:As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.

The lengths you're willing to go to to avoid engaging in any wrongthink about your messiah continues to genuinely astonish me. The man is pushing the country to the brink of civil war and you're still ready to blame someone, anyone else. It's Ted Cruz! It's Texas! What is going to be enough to break the spell? Does he actually have to personally spit on you or something?

If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.

There's reason to suspect he was going to and was dissuaded, given the disposition of troops around DC early in the summer. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean people don't want it to happen, that he doesn't want it to happen, or that it couldn't happen.

The reason why is because the military told Trump to go to hell over using military force to stop the riots/protests.

We came very very close this summer to having a military coup. If Trump had ordered the military to stop the protests Trump would have been thrown out of office by the military
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mind you, I’m not saying this to criticize you but this is the result of the GOP letting itself be strangled by a failed businessman and shit reality TV character. They could’ve stopped Trump already. But they don’t have a spine.

As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:They want a dictator not rule of law.

If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.

You represent such a small percentage of the GOP that your opinions don't matter that much here.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:The lengths you're willing to go to to avoid engaging in any wrongthink about your messiah continues to genuinely astonish me. The man is pushing the country to the brink of civil war and you're still ready to blame someone, anyone else. It's Ted Cruz! It's Texas! What is going to be enough to break the spell? Does he actually have to personally spit on you or something?


There's reason to suspect he was going to and was dissuaded, given the disposition of troops around DC early in the summer. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean people don't want it to happen, that he doesn't want it to happen, or that it couldn't happen.

The reason why is because the military told Trump to go to hell over using military force to stop the riots/protests.

We came very very close this summer to having a military coup. If Trump had ordered the military to stop the protests Trump would have been thrown out of office by the military

I mean, maybe? Hopefully? The risk that they would've certainly seems to have been enough to dissuade him, but I'm not 100% confident they actually would have. It's a moot point now, anyways.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.
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Postby Omniabstracta » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mind you, I’m not saying this to criticize you but this is the result of the GOP letting itself be strangled by a failed businessman and shit reality TV character. They could’ve stopped Trump already. But they don’t have a spine.

As much as I love Trump I can't defend him on this at this point. Ugh. It's bad, the whole thing's bad. Texas is pissing me off, too. I mean the more this goes on the more I'm despising politicians in general. It's certainly turned me off to Ted Cruz.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:They want a dictator not rule of law.

If we wanted a dictator Trump would have used the insurrection act the deal with the riots. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Trump didn’t invoke the Insurrection Act because Esper and and other heads made clear that the military wasn’t going to humor despotism. That the Secretary of Defense must make such a statement in the first place, and that he was effectively fired for doing so, is a sign in itself.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.


Now who are acting like snowflakes this time around?
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

Well, we were going to get there eventually, I guess my timeline was just a little off. Fucking Christ.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

That's nice. How is the country supposed to function moving forward? I don't see how it can.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:56 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The reason why is because the military told Trump to go to hell over using military force to stop the riots/protests.

We came very very close this summer to having a military coup. If Trump had ordered the military to stop the protests Trump would have been thrown out of office by the military

I mean, maybe? Hopefully? The risk that they would've certainly seems to have been enough to dissuade him, but I'm not 100% confident they actually would have. It's a moot point now, anyways.

Dude the army, Air Force and navy all put out press releases stating that they supported the right of Americans to protest and that they would not interfere with such rights.

There’s a reason why Trump got Barr and his goons out there because they’ll do want Trump wants.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:00 pm

For a good laugh and because this tramples Trump’s ego, have a read.

“Europe’s largest news magazine names Trump the “Loser of the Year”” :rofl:
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

Prepare for eight idiots hold up in an unused park building or some shit.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

I encountered some of those people. They don't consider me a true American as I don't support Trump.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

Prepare for eight idiots hold up in an unused park building or some shit.

I wish. It's more dangerous than that.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:02 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Prepare for eight idiots hold up in an unused park building or some shit.

I wish. It's more dangerous than that.

It’s really not.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:03 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump Twitter Sphere is now suggesting civil war.

Prepare for eight idiots hold up in an unused park building or some shit.

That, plus 4 years of hysterics while Biden does centrist things.

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