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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:23 am

Sahravana wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:First of all, as I’ve told the kids in my school, stop saying “the blacks”.
And secondly, a conservative isn’t shot every 29 hours. 1 out of 1000 conservatives aren’t going to get shot by police. Conservatives haven’t been profiled for centuries for being conservative, and aren’t incarcerated at higher rates for crimes they didn’t commit than liberals. Conservatives aren’t not having an opioid epidemic simply because doctors look at them and refuse to give them painkillers because they assume they’ll just sell them.
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you'd be surprised... it's not easy being a white man today, let alone a Christian.


What, did someone once call you a cracker or a holy roller? If so, my deepest sympathies, you truly can relate to the pain and terror black parents feel when they wonder if their 12 year old boy will be gunned down by police if he walks through the wrong neighborhood, your agony truly surpasses that of a transgender kid who is beaten and raped for going in the wrong bathroom.
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:23 am

Sahravana wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:First of all, as I’ve told the kids in my school, stop saying “the blacks”.
And secondly, a conservative isn’t shot every 29 hours. 1 out of 1000 conservatives aren’t going to get shot by police. Conservatives haven’t been profiled for centuries for being conservative, and aren’t incarcerated at higher rates for crimes they didn’t commit than liberals. Conservatives aren’t not having an opioid epidemic simply because doctors look at them and refuse to give them painkillers because they assume they’ll just sell them.
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you'd be surprised... it's not easy being a white man today, let alone a Christian.


Yes actually it is.

For instance, the probability of you getting shot dead by cops while doing something innocuous is substantially lower.

It is an amusing bit of stupidity to claim that the white man is being persecuted.

That is not so.

Assholes are being persecuted. Right now, there seem to be a goodly number of white guys acting like assholes. They seem to be getting spurred on by this one white guy asshole in a similarly white house.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:23 am

Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.


My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:23 am

Geneviev wrote:German news: How democratic are the USA?

So, what happened is clearly not great for America's international image. It's a little concerning that this is what Biden will be left with.


Unfortunately the people that should be embarrassed and ashamed have no self awareness of their embarrassment. They still see everywhere that isn't America as "some shithole" begging for American greatness to wash over them.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:24 am

Geneviev wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.

I just edited the post. For some reason, that article was on the front page on the website but it's actually from June.

Point still stands, now we know we where right to be worried.
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Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.


My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."

Nah, just the ones that support him, especially if the crime has to do with supporting him.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:24 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.


My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."

I wonder if we'll see that for the insurrectionists, pardons can be issued preemptively, I'm just not sure what they'll be charged with and where

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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:24 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Asherahan wrote:That is stupid level whataboutism.

I prefer to in cases like Sahravana I much prefer the "Yeah Get ready for the Gulag Approach."


Whataboutism is the action of levying a counteraccusation to distract from the initial argument. His claim is that the firing was an attack on free speech despite the fact it was a firing for criminal behavior incidental to a political event. I presented a scenario where the criminal behavior was incidental to the event but the criminal behavior was not of the variety that even an idealogue could give a pass. The situation is exactly the same but attempting to reach the same conclusion would make you feel foolsih, this is a tool for showing that the initial position was motivated by bias not logic.

Look I am not an English speaker so can we both agree to just sent the guy to the gulag along with the rest of his friends?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:25 am

Kowani wrote:Several US attorneys and the acting attorney general say that there will be prosecutions for what happened in the Capitol.

Good there should be.

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Postby Geneviev » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:25 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I just edited the post. For some reason, that article was on the front page on the website but it's actually from June.

Point still stands, now we know we where right to be worried.

Yeah. We were. And I'm sure there's some message in the fact that they put something so old back on the front page.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:25 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.


My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."

This just in, Ted Kaczynski has seized a post office after being pardoned by President Trump
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:25 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean, people where worried that Trump would attempt to burn it all down since he lost.


My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."

That’s far too clever for him, I was guessing he would ask the SCOTUS if he could “silently rewrite the Constitution.”
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:26 am

Corindia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
My money was on "pardon all criminals at once."

I wonder if we'll see that for the insurrectionists, pardons can be issued preemptively, I'm just not sure what they'll be charged with and where

I mean a pardon can be "Pardoned for all federal crimes, ever committed."
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Postby Sahravana » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:27 am

Page wrote:
Sahravana wrote:you'd be surprised... it's not easy being a white man today, let alone a Christian.


What, did someone once call you a cracker or a holy roller? If so, my deepest sympathies, you truly can relate to the pain and terror black parents feel when they wonder if their 12 year old boy will be gunned down by police if he walks through the wrong neighborhood, your agony truly surpasses that of a transgender kid who is beaten and raped for going in the wrong bathroom.

there is a noam chomsky quote in your signature.

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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:27 am

Geneviev wrote:German news: How democratic are the USA?

So, what happened is clearly not great for America's international image. It's a little concerning that this is what Biden will be left with.

Edit: This is actually old, and I didn't realize because it was on the front page again. Sorry.


Try being an American who lives here lol. All my friends and family know me by now but I'll never forget in November 2016 when I walked into my German class on Wednesday morning and everyone stared at me and I was just like "es ist nicht meine Schuld, ich wollte Bernie Sanders".

And this summer I went to my friend's birthday party and I smoked a joint and then had to answer everyone's Trump questions.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:27 am

Page wrote:
Geneviev wrote:German news: How democratic are the USA?

So, what happened is clearly not great for America's international image. It's a little concerning that this is what Biden will be left with.

Edit: This is actually old, and I didn't realize because it was on the front page again. Sorry.


Try being an American who lives here lol. All my friends and family know me by now but I'll never forget in November 2016 when I walked into my German class on Wednesday morning and everyone stared at me and I was just like "es ist nicht meine Schuld, ich wollte Bernie Sanders".

And this summer I went to my friend's birthday party and I smoked a joint and then had to answer everyone's Trump questions.

I am still trying to explain Trump to my friends in China...China.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:28 am

Page wrote:
Geneviev wrote:German news: How democratic are the USA?

So, what happened is clearly not great for America's international image. It's a little concerning that this is what Biden will be left with.

Edit: This is actually old, and I didn't realize because it was on the front page again. Sorry.


Try being an American who lives here lol. All my friends and family know me by now but I'll never forget in November 2016 when I walked into my German class on Wednesday morning and everyone stared at me and I was just like "es ist nicht meine Schuld, ich wollte Bernie Sanders".

And this summer I went to my friend's birthday party and I smoked a joint and then had to answer everyone's Trump questions.

I'm sorry. My family is definitely not happy with Trump either, and I have to explain to them that I actually like America.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:29 am

Sahravana wrote:
Page wrote:
What, did someone once call you a cracker or a holy roller? If so, my deepest sympathies, you truly can relate to the pain and terror black parents feel when they wonder if their 12 year old boy will be gunned down by police if he walks through the wrong neighborhood, your agony truly surpasses that of a transgender kid who is beaten and raped for going in the wrong bathroom.

there is a noam chomsky quote in your signature.

Lemme guess.. he's an evil old jew destroying america?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:29 am

read your own damn sources
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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:29 am

Sahravana wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:First of all, as I’ve told the kids in my school, stop saying “the blacks”.
And secondly, a conservative isn’t shot every 29 hours. 1 out of 1000 conservatives aren’t going to get shot by police. Conservatives haven’t been profiled for centuries for being conservative, and aren’t incarcerated at higher rates for crimes they didn’t commit than liberals. Conservatives aren’t not having an opioid epidemic simply because doctors look at them and refuse to give them painkillers because they assume they’ll just sell them.
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you'd be surprised... it's not easy being a white man today, let alone a Christian.

It's really fucking easy being white in the US.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:29 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Corindia wrote:I wonder if we'll see that for the insurrectionists, pardons can be issued preemptively, I'm just not sure what they'll be charged with and where

I mean a pardon can be "Pardoned for all federal crimes, ever committed."

Oh, I thought they had to list the specific crimes, even if it was prior to being charged, but that would certainly cover them. This is probably moot anyway since none of them paid Trump, so they shouldn't expect him to look out for them once they've served their purpose.

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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:29 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Page wrote:
Try being an American who lives here lol. All my friends and family know me by now but I'll never forget in November 2016 when I walked into my German class on Wednesday morning and everyone stared at me and I was just like "es ist nicht meine Schuld, ich wollte Bernie Sanders".

And this summer I went to my friend's birthday party and I smoked a joint and then had to answer everyone's Trump questions.

I am still trying to explain Trump to my friends in China...China.

Just send them a link to Trump saying China. They will understand.
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:30 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Sahravana wrote:there is a noam chomsky quote in your signature.

Lemme guess.. he's an evil old jew destroying america?


Shhhh, you have to say (((Cultural Marxist))) now or the PC police will get you.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:30 am

Asherahan wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I am still trying to explain Trump to my friends in China...China.

Just send them a link to Trump saying China. They will understand.

They just ask me why he sounds so stupid.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:31 am

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Heloin wrote:Accusing Emerald of all people of being a radical socialist is fucking hilarious.

Calling literally anyone in this thread a radical socialist is pretty funny.

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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:31 am

Asherahan wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I am still trying to explain Trump to my friends in China...China.

Just send them a link to Trump saying China. They will understand.


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