American Politics I: It's All Applesauce

[Borderlands of Rojava]

> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."

What world are you living in where ANY of that is true?

Hes living in imaginationland. He can't admit that his hero is a disgrace whose actions caused 4 deaths, damage to the capitol building and multiple injuries.

[Nakena]

No, Antifa are just the brownshirts. The DNC is the fascist cult, as evidenced by most of their beliefs being indistinguishable from the NSDAP, aside from who they think is pure and who they think is impure.

The fuck?

Basically a proof of concept post. Make some hilarious claim or post with a lot of buzzwords and people are more likely react to it than to an effort post.

[The Emerald Legion]

I watched it too. And thats what he did.

You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.

So question. If someone tells you your fears are baseless imaginings. Are you more or less likely to listen to them?

[The Marlborough]

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2020/12/24/a-basic-fact-about-trump-is-now-clear-column/

A quick read on trumpism and fascism.

Paxton himself doesn't consider Trumpism to be a form of fascism.

[Valrifell]

You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.

Like I said yesterday:

What should he much do at this point. He is at the end of his lame duck period. Game's over.

And of course he isn't dropping his election fraud storyline. Its unrealistically to expect he would suddenly change? no surprises there. He's done for. And likely there wont be a run in 2024.

So I don't get the outrage.

Because his rhetoric directly lead to the events we're discussing? Something can be unsurprising and yet totally outrageous when it happens. What he should do is stand down, whether or not it's realistic is irrelevant to the question of "how miffed I should be if he dosen't".

I don't get the lack of outrage.

[The Emerald Legion]

What world are you living in where ANY of that is true?

Hes living in imaginationland. He can't admit that his hero is a disgrace whose actions caused 4 deaths, damage to the capitol building and multiple injuries.

I've literally said the exact same argument for almost five years now. It has nothing to do with recent events.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.

So question. If someone tells you your fears are baseless imaginings. Are you more or less likely to listen to them?

You can't stop making excuses can you?

[Kexholm Karelia]

You can dislike Trump, but do you know how insanely evil Hitler was?

And how different would Trump be given the amount of power that Hitler had?

Hitler is such a unique level of pure evil and malice that no one in all of history save for maybe Genghis Khan could come close. Stalin and Mao were people who just didn’t care about anyone, Hitler actively despised and exterminated people groups

[Spirit of Hope]

You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.

So question. If someone tells you your fears are baseless imaginings. Are you more or less likely to listen to them?

So Trump shouldn't stop telling people lies because they might stop believing him?

[Ifreann]

>Trump tries to overthrow congress

"The DNC are the fascists"

> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."

Amazing the shit one has to believe to remain a Trump supporter.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Hes living in imaginationland. He can't admit that his hero is a disgrace whose actions caused 4 deaths, damage to the capitol building and multiple injuries.

I've literally said the exact same argument for almost five years now. It has nothing to do with recent events.

I know you've been making the same bad faith argument for years now. I think we all know that considering you keep trying and failing to downplay what just happened and what Trump has been leading us up to for 4 years.

[The Marlborough]

You can dislike Trump, but do you know how insanely evil Hitler was?

And how different would Trump be given the amount of power that Hitler had?

Hitler wanted to commit genocide for the sake of genocide, Trump doesn't.

[Kexholm Karelia]

"The REAL fascist cult is antifa guys"

No, Antifa are just the brownshirts. The DNC is the fascist cult, as evidenced by most of their beliefs being indistinguishable from the NSDAP, aside from who they think is pure and who they think is impure.

The DNC isn’t fascist lmao

[Vassenor]

> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

>MFW

[San Lumen]

Hes living in imaginationland. He can't admit that his hero is a disgrace whose actions caused 4 deaths, damage to the capitol building and multiple injuries.

I've literally said the exact same argument for almost five years now. It has nothing to do with recent events.

what argument is that?

You never said what is the alleged system you want to get rid of to let cities die as you put it. The government also has no power to dissolve them dispute what you think.

[Valrifell]

You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.

So question. If someone tells you your fears are baseless imaginings. Are you more or less likely to listen to them?

You're not going to listen to me anyway. All of your engagements make it shockingly clear that you have little interest in good faith discussion with groups you already consider to be your "enemy" be they liberal, leftist, or happen to live in a city.

[The Emerald Legion]

> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."

What world are you living in where ANY of that is true?

The real world? I'm sorry you're ignorant of the unfortunate state of the world.

[Thermodolia]

And as I said before, if these Trump supporters staged an insurrection at the Zhongnanhai Complex in Beijing in a bid to overthrow the communist regime, I would be cheering them on, not condemning them. It is right and proper to wage war on tyranny. It is wrong and indecent to wage war on democracy. Americans support Hong Kong democracy. They also support American democracy. Where's the hypocrisy in that?

Antifa/BLM, and now, Donald Trump, are responsible for giving China the fodder it needs to propagate its vile communist propaganda IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC IN WHICH 350,000 AMERICANS AND 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DIED while the Chinese economy prospers and the CCP boasts about its superior cultural and political system. When are we going to start fucking winning and stop fucking losing to these imperialist tyrants?

Joe Biden had better grow a spine and start talking and tweeting like his predecessor when it comes to China and Russia, unlike his weak, cowardly former boss Obama. Red lines must be drawn and they must be strictly and consistently ENFORCED. America needs a strong leader more than ever before, because might makes right is the only language the enemies of freedom and democracy understand. Neoliberalism and political cowardice must be eliminated.

Hong Kong Belongs to China so does Taiwan.

No. Free Tibet, Free Hong Kong, Free Taiwan. Fuck the PRC.

Also Tibetans and Hong Kongers didn’t get to decide if they wanted to be apart of China or not

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Yeah, Trump is like Diet Hitler.

You can dislike Trump, but do you know how insanely evil Hitler was?

Yeah, I know my shit.

Also my post was clearly meant to be humorous. Trump is closer to a Mussolini than a Hitler. Still, a bit of hyperbole for the sake of le humour isn't a bad thing.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

What world are you living in where ANY of that is true?

The real world? I'm sorry you're ignorant of the unfortunate state of the world.

In the real world there wasn't just a small protest at the capitol and this is worse than anything antifa ever did. So no, you're living in an alternate reality.

[Thermodolia]

The fuck?

Basically a proof of concept post. Make some hilarious claim or post with a lot of buzzwords and people are more likely react to it than to an effort post.

Fair

[Nakena]

Like I said yesterday:

What should he much do at this point. He is at the end of his lame duck period. Game's over.

And of course he isn't dropping his election fraud storyline. Its unrealistically to expect he would suddenly change? no surprises there. He's done for. And likely there wont be a run in 2024.

So I don't get the outrage.

Because his rhetoric directly lead to the events we're discussing? Something can be unsurprising and yet totally outrageous when it happens. What he should do is stand down, whether or not it's realistic is irrelevant to the question of "how miffed I should be if he dosen't".

I don't get the lack of outrage.

I am talking about the censorshipped video where he talked about people should be going home.

What he should do is stand down, whether or not it's realistic is irrelevant to the question of "how miffed I should be if he dosen't".

I don't know why you expect him to suddenly something extremly untrumpian. It's Trump, so chances are, and we know after four years, he's going to do trumpian things as we know. So this was another trumpian thing. No surprises there.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Hes living in imaginationland. He can't admit that his hero is a disgrace whose actions caused 4 deaths, damage to the capitol building and multiple injuries.

I've literally said the exact same argument for almost five years now. It has nothing to do with recent events.

Dude I agree with you on things but if the DNC was fascist, the protestors yesterday would all be dead and no one would be able to speak out against them like you are online, and also we wouldn’t have an elected congress but labor union representatives who are really just arms of the state

[The Emerald Legion]

So question. If someone tells you your fears are baseless imaginings. Are you more or less likely to listen to them?

You're not going to listen to me anyway. All of your engagements make it shockingly clear that you have little interest in good faith discussion with groups you already consider to be your "enemy" be they liberal, leftist, or happen to live in a city.

If I considered someone an enemy, I wouldn't be talking to them. The fact that I'm still talking is a sign that I'm being stubbornly optimistic in hoping that one day you lot will see the light.

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