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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:18 am

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Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.


I watched it too. And thats what he did.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:18 am



Yeah thats state run propaganda for you.

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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:18 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:More like an ad-hoc autoputsch but even still that doesn't make him Hitler.


Yeah, Trump is like Diet Hitler.

I wouldn't compare him to Hitler at all. He's like the Poundland Marcos.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:19 am

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
As per the Wikipedia article on fascism.
That sounds an awful lot like what Trump and his worst supporters wanted. Yet somehow "they're not fascists."

This is just an overview of certain characteristics, not actually what makes something fascist. Many non-fascist regimes have shared similar characteristics.


Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through protectionist and economic interventionist policies.


This alone does not a fascist make but its once again part of Trump's campaign. If you would like, I can keep posting similarities between fascism and Trumpism, because they're easy to draw when they're the same thing.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:19 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:More like an ad-hoc autoputsch but even still that doesn't make him Hitler.


Yeah, Trump is like Diet Hitler.

You can dislike Trump, but do you know how insanely evil Hitler was?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:19 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
Yeah, Trump is like Diet Hitler.

I wouldn't compare him to Hitler at all. He's like the Poundland Marcos.


I'd say he's Mussolini.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:20 am

Nakena wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.


I watched it too. And thats what he did.


You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:20 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:I wouldn't compare him to Hitler at all. He's like the Poundland Marcos.


I'd say he's Mussolini.


Berlusconi on crack.

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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:20 am



And as I said before, if these Trump supporters staged an insurrection at the Zhongnanhai Complex in Beijing in a bid to overthrow the communist regime, I would be cheering them on, not condemning them. It is right and proper to wage war on tyranny. It is wrong and indecent to wage war on democracy. Americans support Hong Kong democracy. They also support American democracy. Where's the hypocrisy in that?

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Joe Biden had better grow a spine and start talking and tweeting like his predecessor when it comes to China and Russia, unlike his weak, cowardly former boss Obama. Red lines must be drawn and they must be strictly and consistently ENFORCED. America needs a strong leader more than ever before, because might makes right is the only language the enemies of freedom and democracy understand. Neoliberalism and political cowardice must be eliminated.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:21 am

Valrifell wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I watched it too. And thats what he did.


You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.


It took him hours to even do that after his staffers demanded he do it. If Trump had full control and Pence didn't go around him, the Capitol would be destroyed.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:21 am

It feels like this thread has bearly started and it's allmost 500 pages.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:21 am

Nakena wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I'd say he's Mussolini.


Berlusconi on crack.


Erdogan but without the stache.
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:22 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:This is just an overview of certain characteristics, not actually what makes something fascist. Many non-fascist regimes have shared similar characteristics.


Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through protectionist and economic interventionist policies.


This alone does not a fascist make but its once again part of Trump's campaign. If you would like, I can keep posting similarities between fascism and Trumpism, because they're easy to draw when they're the same thing.

Only in very superficial ways. Bonapartism has very similar characteristics but is not considered fascism.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:22 am

Valrifell wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I watched it too. And thats what he did.


You have to admit it's pretty half hearted if he only does it after reaffirming the claims that the people were rioting over.


Like I said yesterday:

What should he much do at this point. He is at the end of his lame duck period. Game's over.

And of course he isn't dropping his election fraud storyline. Its unrealistically to expect he would suddenly change? no surprises there. He's done for. And likely there wont be a run in 2024.

So I don't get the outrage.

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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:22 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:


And as I said before, if these Trump supporters staged an insurrection at the Zhongnanhai Complex in Beijing in a bid to overthrow the communist regime, I would be cheering them on, not condemning them. It is right and proper to wage war on tyranny. It is wrong and indecent to wage war on democracy. Americans support Hong Kong democracy. They also support American democracy. Where's the hypocrisy in that?

Antifa/BLM, and now, Donald Trump, are responsible for giving China the fodder it needs to propagate its vile communist propaganda IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC IN WHICH 350,000 AMERICANS AND 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DIED while the Chinese economy prospers and the CCP boasts about its superior cultural and political system. When are we going to start fucking winning and stop fucking losing to these imperialist tyrants?

Joe Biden had better grow a spine and start talking and tweeting like his predecessor when it comes to China and Russia, unlike his weak, cowardly former boss Obama. Red lines must be drawn and they must be strictly and consistently ENFORCED. America needs a strong leader more than ever before, because might makes right is the only language the enemies of freedom and democracy understand. Neoliberalism and political cowardice must be eliminated.

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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:22 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:I wouldn't compare him to Hitler at all. He's like the Poundland Marcos.


I'd say he's Mussolini.

Mussolini was actually intelligent.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:23 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:


And as I said before, if these Trump supporters staged an insurrection at the Zhongnanhai Complex in Beijing in a bid to overthrow the communist regime, I would be cheering them on, not condemning them. It is right and proper to wage war on tyranny. It is wrong and indecent to wage war on democracy. Americans support Hong Kong democracy. They also support American democracy. Where's the hypocrisy in that?

Antifa/BLM, and now, Donald Trump, are responsible for giving China the fodder it needs to propagate its vile communist propaganda IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC IN WHICH 350,000 AMERICANS AND 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DIED while the Chinese economy prospers and the CCP boasts about its superior cultural and political system. When are we going to start fucking winning and stop fucking losing to these imperialist tyrants?

Joe Biden had better grow a spine and start talking and tweeting like his predecessor when it comes to China and Russia, unlike his weak, cowardly former boss Obama. Red lines must be drawn and they must be strictly and consistently ENFORCED. America needs a strong leader more than ever before, because might makes right is the only language the enemies of freedom and democracy understand. Neoliberalism and political cowardice must be eliminated.


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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:23 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
No, Antifa are just the brownshirts. The DNC is the fascist cult, as evidenced by most of their beliefs being indistinguishable from the NSDAP, aside from who they think is pure and who they think is impure.


>Trump tries to overthrow congress

"The DNC are the fascists"


> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:23 am

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2020/1 ... ar-column/

A quick read on trumpism and fascism.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:23 am

Asherahan wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
And as I said before, if these Trump supporters staged an insurrection at the Zhongnanhai Complex in Beijing in a bid to overthrow the communist regime, I would be cheering them on, not condemning them. It is right and proper to wage war on tyranny. It is wrong and indecent to wage war on democracy. Americans support Hong Kong democracy. They also support American democracy. Where's the hypocrisy in that?

Antifa/BLM, and now, Donald Trump, are responsible for giving China the fodder it needs to propagate its vile communist propaganda IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC IN WHICH 350,000 AMERICANS AND 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DIED while the Chinese economy prospers and the CCP boasts about its superior cultural and political system. When are we going to start fucking winning and stop fucking losing to these imperialist tyrants?

Joe Biden had better grow a spine and start talking and tweeting like his predecessor when it comes to China and Russia, unlike his weak, cowardly former boss Obama. Red lines must be drawn and they must be strictly and consistently ENFORCED. America needs a strong leader more than ever before, because might makes right is the only language the enemies of freedom and democracy understand. Neoliberalism and political cowardice must be eliminated.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
>Trump tries to overthrow congress

"The DNC are the fascists"


> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."

Complete and utter rubbish but this coming from the person who wants the government to dissolve cities and get rid a alleged system and let them rot.

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Postby Cordel One » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
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Yeah, Trump is like Diet Hitler.

You can dislike Trump, but do you know how insanely evil Hitler was?

And how different would Trump be given the amount of power that Hitler had?

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
>Trump tries to overthrow congress

"The DNC are the fascists"


> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was a protest."


What world are you living in where ANY of that is true?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
"The REAL fascist cult is antifa guys"


No, Antifa are just the brownshirts. The DNC is the fascist cult, as evidenced by most of their beliefs being indistinguishable from the NSDAP, aside from who they think is pure and who they think is impure.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
>Trump tries to overthrow congress

"The DNC are the fascists"


> The DNC advocate for a police state, criminalizing opposing cultures, ending freedom of speech, they run all the top locations for police brutality, all the while slowly ramping up Ethnic Guilt rhetoric.

"Trump is the fascist guys. Look there was anprotest attempt to overthrow the congress but im being disingenuous and keep twisting the story despite everyone knowing what actually went on ."


There you go. I fixed it for you, you can thank me later.
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