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Postby SD_Film Artists » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:37 am

CoraSpia wrote:Interesting looks from life site news, that great source of bullshit that used to be a decent website to read about developments relevant to pro-life campaigning:

Prior to today, the election was totally stolen, go out and protest. Then the protesters were 'patriots.' Now Trump has promised a peaceful transition, Biden has won. I love to see how 'facts' change depending on what Trump thinks for some of these people.


He's still said that it's stolen, he's just called for a peaceful and an orderly transition.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:39 am

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RiderSyl wrote:I'm tired of living in interesting times.
It's no more or less interesting than before. It's simply 24 hour news channels, and citizen journos on twitter and youtube have to do something to occupy their time and attract revenue motivates them towards sensationalism, and the relative ease with which we can access that information makes it easier to discover content.


Nah this is different. The last 4 years aren't how American politics were in like 2002.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:39 am

Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:40 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Interesting looks from life site news, that great source of bullshit that used to be a decent website to read about developments relevant to pro-life campaigning:

Prior to today, the election was totally stolen, go out and protest. Then the protesters were 'patriots.' Now Trump has promised a peaceful transition, Biden has won. I love to see how 'facts' change depending on what Trump thinks for some of these people.


He's still said that it's stolen, he's just called for a peaceful and an orderly transition.


God Trump can't help but half ass. "I dont like the rioting but I understand why you're doing it." "The election was totally rigged but ill commit to the transition."

The only thing that has any chance of ending it is Trump saying "Biden won fairly, please respect his win."
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:40 am

Andsed wrote:Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.


Oh he can. He will find a way. He always does.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:42 am

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She died in battle for a sleazebag new york billionaire.


This is why fascism is a death cult.

I am not using the f word flippantly, btw. What Trump advocated for, and what his supporters attempted, is basically fascism.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:43 am

Andsed wrote:Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.

There's one death that's being talked about a lot, who are the other 3?
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:44 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.

There's one death that's being talked about a lot, who are the other 3?


They were medical emergencies, so heart attacks, asthma, that sort of thing.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:44 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
This is why fascism is a death cult.

I am not using the f word flippantly, btw. What Trump advocated for, and what his supporters attempted, is basically fascism.
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America would never join an organisation like the European Union unless the European Union changes massively. There's no way of America totally dominating it as it is.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:45 am

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You need to be ruthless to become a billionaire. By any mechanism (other than inheritance, I suppose).


Nah. I think you do not realize that it is much easier to become one in tech compared to other industries. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are not particularly ruthless people.


They absolutely are.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:45 am

Shrillland wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:There's one death that's being talked about a lot, who are the other 3?


They were medical emergencies, so heart attacks, asthma, that sort of thing.

Ah okay. I'm guessing they were most likely brought on by the stress of the situation?
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:46 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nah. I think you do not realize that it is much easier to become one in tech compared to other industries. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are not particularly ruthless people.


They absolutely are.

The only billionaires who aren't ruthless would be the ones who just had stock in a particular start-up before that start-up went massive. Facebook going public made quite a few of those.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:47 am

Hirota wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:I'm tired of living in interesting times.
It's no more or less interesting than before. It's simply 24 hour news channels, and citizen journos on twitter and youtube have to do something to occupy their time and attract revenue motivates them towards sensationalism, and the relative ease with which we can access that information makes it easier to discover content.

Also people on social media spread a lot of fake news and alarmism
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:47 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Wait, did I read it right? That Loeffler now supports the election results?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06 ... toral-vote

Appalled by the violence that engulfed the Capitol on Wednesday, at least four Republican lawmakers, including Senator Kelly Loeffler of Georgia, said they had changed their minds and would vote to uphold the Electoral College results after having previously said they would object to them.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06 ... he-capitol

Which is to say, they're admitting what we all already knew, that they were never objecting to the results out of a genuine belief in some kind of illegitimacy, they were objecting to the results because it put them on the political side of the Trumpists, and following their failed putsch that is no longer a desirable side to be on.


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Sanghyeok wrote:Neoliberal media siding with corporations to spread falsehoods instead of truth, what else is new?

The article is short but hilarious.

Big fan of this particular bit:
One has a tattoo that indicates he is a Stalinist sympathizer. antifa promotes anarchy through violence and wants the end of America in favor of a Stalinist-state. “No more USA at all” is a protest chant.

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Postby Myrensis » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:48 am

Andsed wrote:Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.


Odds are if you're a friend or family member of one of those people you probably think they're Martyrs who valiantly gave their lives to try to stop the radical communist deep staters from destroying America by denying Trump his throne. So if anything they'll probably just double down on supporting him to get revenge.

Remember how after Herman Caine died of COVID after attending a Trump rally his family decided to continue using his twitter to bitch about COVID being fake news trying to make Trump look bad?

That's the kind of people we're dealing with.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:49 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Neoliberal media siding with corporations to spread falsehoods instead of truth, what else is new?

The article is short but hilarious.

Big fan of this particular bit:
One has a tattoo that indicates he is a Stalinist sympathizer. antifa promotes anarchy through violence and wants the end of America in favor of a Stalinist-state. “No more USA at all” is a protest chant.

Ah yes, infamous anarchist Chairman Joseph Stalin.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:49 am

CoraSpia wrote:
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They were medical emergencies, so heart attacks, asthma, that sort of thing.

Ah okay. I'm guessing they were most likely brought on by the stress of the situation?


Well, I wasn't there of course, but I would say so.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:49 am

Myrensis wrote:
Andsed wrote:Honestly imagine being a friend or family member of one of the four who died knowing they died because Trump refused to concede the election and kept lying. That your loved one died for the bruised ego of that piece of shit. I would be fucking furious even more than I already am. Impeachment or the 25th Trump cannot just get away with this.


Odds are if you're a friend or family member of one of those people you probably think they're Martyrs who valiantly gave their lives to try to stop the radical communist deep staters from destroying America by denying Trump his throne. So if anything they'll probably just double down on supporting him to get revenge.

Remember how after Herman Caine died of COVID after attending a Trump rally his family decided to continue using his twitter to bitch about COVID being fake news trying to make Trump look bad?

That's the kind of people we're dealing with.

There's something decidedly weird about using a dead family members twitter account for political campaigning.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:50 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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He's still said that it's stolen, he's just called for a peaceful and an orderly transition.


God Trump can't help but half ass. "I dont like the rioting but I understand why you're doing it." "The election was totally rigged but ill commit to the transition."

The only thing that has any chance of ending it is Trump saying "Biden won fairly, please respect his win."


Yup, he's making sure that he can always claim a 'but' when someone reminds him 10 years from now that he only had 1 term.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:51 am

I have to question the power of the Deep State.

If it is a leftist cabal like conspiracy theorists claim, why does the left lose so much in the US? Like, the Dems barely scrapped by in 2020 and are most likely going to lose 2024, so...
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:52 am

New haven america wrote:I have to question the power of the Deep State.

If it is a leftist cabal like conspiracy theorists claim, why does the left lose so much in the US? Like, the Dems barely scrapped by in 2020 and are most likely going to lose 2024, so...

I don't think the deep state is supposed to be leftist, it's centrist and interested in preserving establishment aims. That's what I've gathered from going to the shit corners of the internet anyway.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:54 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Hirota wrote:It's no more or less interesting than before. It's simply 24 hour news channels, and citizen journos on twitter and youtube have to do something to occupy their time and attract revenue motivates them towards sensationalism, and the relative ease with which we can access that information makes it easier to discover content.

Also people on social media spread a lot of fake news and alarmism

Case in point...

Oh wait, that's congressman Matt Gaetz. How embarrassing.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:55 am

CoraSpia wrote:
New haven america wrote:I have to question the power of the Deep State.

If it is a leftist cabal like conspiracy theorists claim, why does the left lose so much in the US? Like, the Dems barely scrapped by in 2020 and are most likely going to lose 2024, so...

I don't think the deep state is supposed to be leftist, it's centrist and interested in preserving establishment aims. That's what I've gathered from going to the shit corners of the internet anyway.

No, it's leftist.

It may have originally started out as center, but has shifted more to the left during Trump's Era.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:56 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Also people on social media spread a lot of fake news and alarmism

Case in point...

Oh wait, that's congressman Matt Gaetz. How embarrassing.

Hey, remember when Ted Cruz said he didn't support violent action in the capitol 10 minutes after giving a speech to the attempted insurrectionists about how violence in the capitol wouldn't be the worst thing?

Cause Ted Cruz doesn't.
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